Large Normal 216 - Endgame

[Nero Cain]

Is there a reason that you aren't claiming now?

[Flavor Leaf]

Is there a reason that you aren't claiming now?

He’s gotta wait for scummates to agree with his plan.

[profii]

I somewhat find saudade's sheeping on fl's vote to be towny. fl is a confirmed town, and in the event that he votes a scum player, it would be hard for saudade to decline voting that person if he himself were scum.
I think ap could be fake claiming. It's strange how we have one town PR dead and two claimed. It's unlikely there are so many PRs in one game, as I remembered in the beginning of the game that people said our mod generally designed setups with few PRs. It's easier to claim disloyal rb and get away with it for scum. I'm currently scumreading him.
It would be hard to claim a multitasking JOAT and not be found out later in the game, so I believe performer's claim.
ofrhz is actively contributing and trying to find scum, which I like. However, I think him sheeping day1 wasn't exactly towny, which makes me wonder about his alignment.

I thought this post was where xx2008 moves from "I'm playing the noob card" into some definitive stances:

I disagree with the logic on Saudade, but he has decided Saudade is towny.
He has also decided AP is a fake claim and finds it scummy.
Whilst XX believes Perf, he doesn't specify an alignment. Although Perf got a couple of null results, I think a JOAT claim would be tough to fake long term anyway, arguably an easy slot to say that's towny.

So we have ofrhz is actively contributing and Nero is disputing that - mental note to see what I think here.


What I want to know is what does XX2008 think of Maxous ??

Nero - why I think xx is town

FWIW - I also assume he is french given the avatar so I see the whole IC debate as him legit not knowing what that was

[RCEnigma]

Stole my joke FL

[RCEnigma]

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.

[RCEnigma]

I was going to propose AP rbs me tonight with performer tracking me. This either confirms ALL 3 claims AND Maxous or exposes 1 scum between myself and AP.

[Performer]

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous. He's not dead so there's my readflip from day 1 to day 2.

What in the.

[profii]

I was going to propose AP rbs me tonight with performer tracking me. This either confirms ALL 3 claims AND Maxous or exposes 1 scum between myself and AP.

I was just going to lynch AP on the assumption a disloyal would be either side and I can see your turn around

[ofrhz]

I was going to propose AP rbs me tonight with performer tracking me. This either confirms ALL 3 claims AND Maxous or exposes 1 scum between myself and AP.

How would this confirm AP again?

[RCEnigma]

Damn, you're right.

[Nero Cain]

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous

If you had a guilty on Max why would you be voting anyone but Max?

[ofrhz]

I was going to propose AP rbs me tonight with performer tracking me. This either confirms ALL 3 claims AND Maxous or exposes 1 scum between myself and AP.

I was just going to lynch AP on the assumption a disloyal would be either side and I can see your turn around

Is this because it’s unlikely for there to be two disloyal tprs

[Nero Cain]

wait nm

[RCEnigma]

I guess that doesn't work. And if scum has a roleblocker I'd screw town over.

[Nero Cain]

Disloyal town would kill only mafia so he's claiming an inno on Max right?

[RCEnigma]

I thought it unlikely as well but considering my utility and performers utility I'm not sure how necessary the disloyal modifier is for scum. He would just be a roleblocker either way.

[RCEnigma]

Yes if we were different alignments Maxous would have died. It's essentially an alignment check.

[RCEnigma]

So Maxous is not scum or any third party.

[ofrhz]

Why don’t you just try to vig AP

[Nero Cain]

What do you think of Profi wanting the days wagons on me and confirmed town Max?

[ofrhz]

And have performer track you

Fucking pedit

[RCEnigma]

Well if I could vig tonight I would, sadly....

[Performer]

I was going to propose AP rbs me tonight with performer tracking me. This either confirms ALL 3 claims AND Maxous or exposes 1 scum between myself and AP.

I don't think this is a good idea...I'd rather we not do the 3-tpr dance , and target outside the 4 tprs (including FL).

I'm also a Joat, last night I disloyal vigged Maxous

If you had a guilty on Max why would you be voting anyone but Max?

wouldn't a town disloyal vig have killed max if max was scum?
Then again, if ap is really town disloyal rb, then he could've blocked max, followed by the track result or the vig action...not sure how the moderator would sequence those 3 night actions though.

[Nero Cain]

not really wanting to vote the only claimed investigation role so

vote: profi

[RCEnigma]

I could see Profii working an angle that could certainly come from either alignment but other posts leaned town to me. Specifically his analysis when I brought up my initial lynchlist.

Unfortunately the main advocate for a Maxous Lynch was our confirmed town. I shot Maxous specifically because I thought Flavor was making a play.

I thought he threw out Maxous as a scumread to get an investigative to look into it, i also thought this when he ignored Maxous through most of the day and felt like he picked up I was pretty obviously shielding Maxous.