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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:12 pm

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In post 2148, Performer wrote:
In post 2146, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 2144, Gamma Emerald wrote:My role doesnt kill unless I die
your role is so confusing...
it's easy

gamma needs to get shot to be any real use, but if you shoot him, you either lose gamma, trading it for gaining an inno on whoever he goes for, or you lose gamma and get a bonus scum kill
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:13 pm

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I have a soft clear from Sephiroth. I can’t explain it this day phase, though. If I die it’ll come out anyways.
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:14 pm

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In post 2149, RCEnigma wrote:We don't get a result from Gamma unless he's night killed.
We use this to our advantage.

It is simple, though.

Gamma can protect someone, but if he is killed, it’ll kill who he’s Protecting along with him. He can’t be tracked or roleblocked.
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:14 pm

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And it only works on scum because disloyal
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:15 pm

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Meaning if RCE and Gamma target the same scum, then the kill won’t go through.

That’s actually kind of a cool interaction
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:21 pm

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You keep losing me with the protection part.
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:22 pm

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Babysitter protects their target, yo
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:23 pm

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Gamma please confirm. Your role, you target someone and if you die: town lives or scum dies. That is your only ability, no? The rest are just modifiers.
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:23 pm

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Oh, gotchya.
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:24 pm

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In post 2157, RCEnigma wrote:Gamma please confirm. Your role, you target someone and if you die: town lives or scum dies. That is your only ability, no? The rest are just modifiers.
He claimed babysitter...babysitter targets a player, and protects them from a night kill.

However, if the babysitter is killed, the babysitter and his target both die.

Since he’s ascetic ninja and disloyal, the babysitter action only takes affect against mafia aligned players, can’t be tracked, can’t be blocked.

This means he protects his target, which can only be mafia that is protected because disloyal.
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:25 pm

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This rolelist is low-key genius.
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:26 pm

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That actually gives me merit that both of them could be town, because that’s a really cool combination of roles for potential interaction.
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:30 pm

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I'm just thinking how it plays out with a scum roleblocker. This game could have been a lot Wilder night 1.
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:32 pm

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In post 2162, RCEnigma wrote:I'm just thinking how it plays out with a scum roleblocker. This game could have been a lot Wilder night 1.
RB makes sense with it. Can save a scum if they use it right.
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:34 pm

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Also wifoms the kills and results like crazy.
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:34 pm

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Games filled with a WIFOM inducing roles are great. Requires actual analysis on play.
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:39 pm

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I'm enjoying it.
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:41 pm

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well i dont think i need to post anymore in this thread. GL town. Definite scum on my wagon so next scum lynch should be straightforward enough
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:42 pm

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In post 2145, RCEnigma wrote:I'll still target between Shattiel/CT/ofhrz
My target is between you and Perfomer if I want to confirm either of you, but what if I want to try and block a kill?? I'm willing to listen to advice on this.
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:43 pm

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I have too much power...if I just mislynched Profii with that much ease...I don’t even know who I am anymore...
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:44 pm

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Tried to stop you from destroying yourself.
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:46 pm

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Target one of the slots we aren't. If one of us are faking, you "confirming" us does more harm.
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:16 pm

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How could a disloyal roleblocker confirm someone? Nobody's going to give away they are roleblocked if they think AP targeted them, so any member of the scumteam fakeclaiming will simply say they made a certain night action even if they didn't. Its better to target a person who has a higher chance of being scum.
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:31 pm

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In post 2172, Completly Trustworthy wrote:How could a disloyal roleblocker confirm someone? Nobody's going to give away they are roleblocked if they think AP targeted them, so any member of the scumteam fakeclaiming will simply say they made a certain night action even if they didn't. Its better to target a person who has a higher chance of being scum.
I was actually toying with the idea we might have another PR or two, one of which being a Tracker who tracks my target to verify they did visit someone, but I get that we don't know if we have that.

OK, I'll decide my target based on profii's flip.
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:43 pm

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I'm beginning to doubt some of the tpr claims. A Town Ascetic Disloyal Ninja Babysitter (wow that's quite a long name :P), town IC, two town JOATS, Town Night 2+3 Rolestopper and several more vanilla townies seem like a lot of power for town. When designing the game, I'm very sure the moderator will do their best to make it fair for both teams. I can't really imagine what the scumteam's roles are if this is really the case. The scumteam must have some very powerful roles if the game is going to be even.
Out of the three yet-to-be-confirmed tprs, I'd say ap or rc or even both are scum faking this claim. I'm townreading performer right now, and it doesn't make sense for town to have two JOATS, considering how one JOAT has multiple abilities. ap I also think is faking, as I have explained before. I also doubt he is a disloyal rb, when a rolestopper is a similar role.
I might not be correct about rb and rs being similar things, but they both are roles that stop other roles from completing actions.

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