Open 738: Scumchat

[Irrelephant11]

I'm trying to walk the tightrope of playing a little scummy this game day so I get ignored and Dr J goes to Heaven while also setting up for pushing Keyser next game phase while also not looking like I'm doing anything intentionally

Who thinks I'll pull it off? lol I'm not sure

Ausuka you should post more you're great at getting townread when you're active. I'm okay garnering the scumreads long term while you get into Heaven, I don't think I'll get lynched easily during a Hell phase

idk what kind of mess I'm making itt
I want to be able to townread one of keyser/eragon because I think I'm pushing too hard on them but idk how to get there

[Ausuka]

I'm trying :/ The thread got like flooded while I was sick and I feel kinda behind it all. Especially now I feel like Labrat is just flooding the thread along with some Keyser and I feel like there are a lot of back-and-forths that focus on minor things. But I'll try to get back into it as much as I can.

[Irrelephant11]

yeah even just posting "I'm behind but here's a thing I wanted to respond to" might help
I know the feel :/ it's been difficult getting back into the thread after being v/la

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

If I'm to going to heaven I think you'll have to vote for me irrelephant

Or I can self-vote at deadline...?

Anyway, you're doing well, when I flip scum Keyser definitely will look bad, and since he will flip town the worst is a potential day 5 lynch

[Ausuka]

If we get volxen in we have like mega voting power btw.

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

In heaven?

[Ausuka]

No I mean we have 3 out of 7 votes for the next phase which means we can strongarm any lynch we want with the help of just one townie which sounds pretty good honestly.

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

Yes... Albeit risky to be all on a wagon
By the next phase we can force any lynch and basically quicklynch town to win :think:


That's definitely fine by me
I don't mind, do what you think is best, irrel

[Irrelephant11]

Is this a good tantrum post

Spoiler:

Also @Dr. J you should be able to guarantee that you are sent to Heaven by voting for yourself.

I take it you still don't want to go to heaven?

And to be sure, how do you feel about the wagon on yourself?

Well if the scumteam is TW/Irrelephant/Labrat, then it makes sense for all of them to prefer to send me to Heaven over you, since I've said that I think Keyser might be right about that being the scumteam. You on the other hand are still townreading TW and Labrat?

No it doesn't??
why would the three of us as scum want to send you to Heaven if you think we're the scumteam? Even if we all survive the next hell phase, you'd send one of us to hell in judgment day.
the me/lab/tw team theory continues to be a joke

Like.. who seriously is going to send LabRat to heaven today

^

It was done to fuel your perspective of anti-distancing.

It was not done because LabRat is one of his strong town reads...

Look at Irrellephants trajectory on LabRat today.

Tell me if town!Irrelphant sends a slot like LabRat over Dr J/Volxen/(TW).

labrat is indeed a townread, not a strong one but I already explained I don't know that I want to send a strong townread any more. You're literally only in the thread to discredit every word out of my mouth at this point and WOW is that an angry-making scum playstyle you've got
just trying to tilt me out of the thread I guess?
I said at start of day that if I could find a town in keyser/eragon/labrat that would make more sense than trying to find town on-wagon, since the odds of finding town off wagon are better in most worlds (scum would probably try to have multiple scum off-wagon, but I don't know how likely it is to actually happen). I think you or eragon are the scum off wagon - or in the world where it's both of you, it's still not labrat, so I do indeed think labrat is a good candidate for heaven. but you know what?
VOTE: Doctor Jekyll, My Hyde because whatever I don't care about this game phase anymore, I put in literal hours upon hours catching up, after a long v/la that multiple people are scumreading me for, and I'm just the easy "and the third scum is Irrelephant" because I haven't been around.
Being called scum for no reason repeatedly is super frustrating, but everyone is convinced that Keyser has solved the game so, great.

fwiw I'm still working on my eragon case because his posts are like incredibly (intentionally??) hard to quote but it won't matter till hell phase anyway. I don't think you need to look further than his response to me like three pages ago, where he tried to get towncred for townreading Creature and for activity, when activity is 0% AI for him (it's not AI for most of this playerlist, come to think of it) and he spent eod2 and the first half of D2 trying to convince us all his townread on creature was actually very weak and it couldn't be TMI because he came around to thinking creature might be scum in the end

Let's do Dr J -> me -> eragon (Dr J's hell lynch), please and thanks.

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

Yep, it looks fine

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

Keysers last post sounds like he knows my flip
Might help get him lynched

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

Do or no?

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

Do I do it or not? Sorry, phone spelling

[ManateeDude]

Despite being dead, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde may still post here

[Irrelephant11]

Okay I think I'm getting lynched here


time to go into antispew mode
Let's plan what might work

[Irrelephant11]

I was right when I said keyser/tw would be hard to overcome as scum
they're a formidable duo
Korina, lcpl, I think your job at this point should just be to write posts for Ausuka to paraphrase into the thread

Whatever we can do to get ausuka in heaven
Bus me (but not too hard) if I'm going down
Or maybe don't, actually, whatever will earn you less attention
Maybe lightly defending me would be more unexpected?

Either way you need to get in town's good graces

[Irrelephant11]

Here's a thought:

If it looks like I'm going down, I'll "accidentally" post itt something that belongs in the scumchat as a way to fakespew ausuka town

Something like

"Yeah, looks like I'm going down . I think it probably sets us up well enough, though? I agree you should probably send him to Heaven if you can to get him out of the thread, and Ausuka/labrat both seem pretty lynchable for the next hell phase. but also if you see the opportunity to get to Heaven, take the win! Oh and I can still post here, right? I'll help you write cases if you need"

Followed by another post:
"lol"

It would "spew" labrat/ausuka town and potentially set up enough confusion for ausuka to make it to heaven?
But I won't do it if you guys think it's too WIFOMy

[Irrelephant11]

Oh and the "lol" post would also include a self-hammer

[Irrelephant11]

eh I might survive this game day
My plan to "accidentally" put scumchat stuff in the main thread might actually make more sense at a point where I'm not being wagoned
Actually if we both survive this gameday it might be fascinating to try during the Heaven phase to see if it gets you into Heaven

[Ausuka]

It's very wifomy for sure, it might work.

What if we, like, did that except you try and clear a townie, but do it in a really awkward and out of place way? If we did that a townie could get some major shade? Eragon possibly? Is that stupid?

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

Here's a thought:

If it looks like I'm going down, I'll "accidentally" post itt something that belongs in the scumchat as a way to fakespew ausuka town

Something like

"Yeah, looks like I'm going down . I think it probably sets us up well enough, though? I agree you should probably send him to Heaven if you can to get him out of the thread, and Ausuka/labrat both seem pretty lynchable for the next hell phase. but also if you see the opportunity to get to Heaven, take the win! Oh and I can still post here, right? I'll help you write cases if you need"

Followed by another post:
"lol"

It would "spew" labrat/ausuka town and potentially set up enough confusion for ausuka to make it to heaven?
But I won't do it if you guys think it's too WIFOMy

I feel that its definitely sensible
but doesn't that risk a reroll by the mod?

[Irrelephant11]

Would it?

@Mod: Am I allowed to pretend to "accidentally" post in the main thread something "meant to be posted" in this thread?

It would out my alignment, but would still be playing to my win condition

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

I think akusas doing fine ATM

Even if you get lynched irrel I feel laboratory gets lynches next hell phase afterwards (d5) probably volx next heaven (d4)

Best case scenario, akusa gets lynched next heaven,

2/3 of us need to be sent to heaven or hell or else a judgement day may also decide if we win or not


@irrel, I suggest you do the same with laboratory as you did with me
Townread but then post doubtful posts in case of a scumflip as someone else said. It will look bad for labrat

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

But then that would invalidate what you suggested we do... so if that's against the rules, then maybe semi-townread him, if not, do what you suggested?

[ManateeDude]

Would it?

@Mod: Am I allowed to pretend to "accidentally" post in the main thread something "meant to be posted" in this thread?

It would out my alignment, but would still be playing to my win condition

I'll say yes but please be careful