Limbo l Victory!

[the worst]

Ok, since you all agree (Elsa, Koki & Chara) that Carca is Town, I think I have no alternative but to.. CONFIRM MY VOTE

VOTE: Carca

Thank you for your attention.

And since

ROLES CAN APPEAR MORE THAN ONCE

I believe

ANOTHER VANILLA COP SHOULD NOT CC

if one exists.

CARCA IS NOT VANILLA

pagetopping for DrAmA

[Performer]

where did your snowman sr go

[Purrcocet]

where on earth did a50 claim , say he checked carca, and got a result?
or are people jumping to far-out conclusions

are u trying to towntell







ugh did i read carca wrong.....

[Purrcocet]

i do ny...t believe it @Worst

[Chara]

i don't know why i didn't mention this earlier, but scum possibly having a Lawyer is a good enough reason to claim VT.
so at this point i would see if we could rely on Carca's meta?

[MariaR]

Sorry guys with holidays coming up I'm a mess.
I saw we unvoted w/e there name is can we go back to lynching alonzo/a50

[the worst]

where did your snowman sr go

Do I seem like I'm in high key game solve mode rn or

I want to lynch in ruby's PoE and will finish my catchup before I hardtunnel Snowman

[the worst]

on that note

la next 48ish hours

not gonna focus on mafia til this fever passes

[Kokichi Oma]

Carca not showing up is damning

this post is kind of scummy regardless of Carca's flip.

How? Shes not posting.

she isn't. she could just not be around as either alignment.
i don't know, i found your reaction to Almost's claim to be kind of strange considering your Carca townread. why don't you think Almost is lying?

I see no reason for him to lie. As scum why give yourself up day 2 for one mislynch

[Kokichi Oma]

I can lynch Lady Angel today if y'all want to spare Carca. Sounds strange? Well, I'm doing the math. We lost 2 townies, and assuming the worst:

We are now 9 vs 3. Let's assume Lady Angel is town (again, this is the WORST CASE SCENARIO, so don't anybody ask "why would I lynch Town?"m because I'm not. I think she's scum, but I am hypothizing the worst case).

So tomorrow we are 7 v 3 and we know who to lynch already.

But if Lady Angel flips Scum then we are at 6 v 2 tomorrow.

Finally, I will be able to provide another result, OR I would be NK'd, flipped and my result would be confirmed to those who are still skeptical.

I am not saying this is the best play either, but I am getting bored of waiting and waiting. The game is virtually dead already.

P.S. I also am taking into account what EJ said about Carca having shot Ruby and gotten poisoned. It makes sense for the claimed VT to do the kill when the Neapolitan has already been lynched I guess. If that's the case then lyching Carca in actually suboptimal bc she's dying anyway, but we don't know that for sure. :/

I'm fine with LA

[Kokichi Oma]

Chara might be town here btw

[Lady Angel]

I didn't believe a50 because Carcalilly did nothing last night, which makes me think she was VT.

[Kokichi Oma]

Wait is that a result

[Almost50]

I didn't believe a50 because Carcalilly did nothing last night, which makes me think she was VT.

Really?

OK, I'll play. Let's hypothetically say you're a Follower, and let's hypothetically say you targeted Carca and she did nothing last night. Did you consider she might be Ninja (so might have acted and you didn't see it)? OK, let's say she's not Ninja and she really didn't act last night. Does that say anything

conclusive

about her role/alignment?

Another question that springs to mind (but not necessarily to you): So, Lady Angel "hypothetically" had some reason to suspect my result. What was Purr's? And..

What is Maria's?

VOTE: Maria

She was willing to lynch Carca, and now she is calling for my lynch too. How can she believe my result on Carca AND still think I'm scum??

[Elsa Jay]

Ahh, so she DID get tracked...

... But why did you track a VT claim day 1? This seems more like you're covering your own ass when Carca gets hung, Angel.

I dont beleive your Follower OR Tracker.

[Chara]

yes, it's a really strange follow/track target. were you scumreading Carcalilly?

[Chara]

and i'm going to echo the concern with Maria. though she doesn't seem to be paying too much attention at the moment.

[Almost50]

Tbh, Lady Angel is confusing to me, that I ahve no idea what to think of her anymore.

Her main argument before she outed she targeted Carca was "what does scum!Carca VT claim benefit her?", but the if that's what she really thinks, then why the hell would she waste a night action on her? It's because she did NOT believe Carca to be a VT. Right? So it follows that the VT claim is exactly what benefits scum Carca the most, and all she had to do was stay put for a Tracker/Follower to confirm she didn't act (and that's assuming Carca isn't Ninja to begin with).

But I'm more confident now in MariaR flipping scum, and even more than I'm confident in my own result on Carca.

Like, Carca may theoretically still flip a TPR. Lady Angel may theoretically have got that result on Carca as either alignment, either because Carca really didn;t act or because she's Ninja.

What is damning about Maria is her supporting the lynch AND calling me scum at the same breath. This -to me- could mean Carca is Town after all (stupid claim, but whatever), and Maria knew it. She wanted Carca to get mislynched and then she would have turned on me anyway, and when that got stalled she turned on me just the same.

Note: Maria flipped against me BEFORE Lady Angel said anything.

It's Maria + Purr + Carca/Koki/Lady/EJ (yeah, you know I won't ever trust you 100%)

[Chara]

Lady's progression on Carcalilly isn't good. she was townreading her, and also said she took Almost's VT claim at face value yesterday.
i don't see how this translates to Carca as a tracker/follow target from Lady.

[Almost50]

I don't either, but I've given up on trying to understand her play for now. If she's Town she can explain it post-game if she likes. She's not a priority on my lynch list though.

[Chara]

Almost: i do want to hear from Carcalilly herself first.

and not sure about the Purr scumread. i do see the others, but considering Purr has no meta on you, their position on you doesn't surprise me and their behaviour/attitude in general looks like town who was wrong on Dunnstral moreso than scum.
granted i'm relying a little on ducky's townread in that direction.

i could see some combination of Maria/Lady/Kokichi/Carcalilly/possibly Elsa right now, though that's unanalyzed with regard to claims/their interactions with each other.

pedit: that may be, but i still want to see her reply.

[Almost50]

I have my own hypothesis on this. Maria sends Purr out to support her in attacking me, and even more fiercely than Maria herself, so when I FoS Purr it looks like OMGUS and she can discredit my pushes on her and her partners. Do NOT underestimate Scum!Maria.

[the worst]

town doesn't have 3 strong investigates here tho right? like one of LadAng and A50 is probably a wolf via sheer setup gaming? but like I wouldn't expect any towny to target LA last night except .. actually A50's reasoning checks out

this is stupid

[Elsa Jay]

I'll hang Lady out of principle while I'll hang Carca out of strategic nessecity.

[Lady Angel]

I tracked a VT claim day 1 because I thought I would learn if anyone targeted her...

You can all crucify me now, that was extremely stupid of me.