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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:45 pm

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In post 2124, Lady Angel wrote:I tracked a VT claim day 1 because I thought I would learn if anyone targeted her...

You can all crucify me now, that was extremely stupid of me.
... Your thinking of Watcher/Lookout. They see who visit the target. YOU see who the target visits. Your not Tracker or Follower then because you'd have read your own role PM and understood it. At the very least you'd have asked the mod for the correction.

I can't in good faith not hang this now. I can fall back on Carca but they may very well be poisoned anyway.

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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:53 pm

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In post 2124, Lady Angel wrote:I tracked a VT claim day 1 because I thought I would learn if anyone targeted her...

You can all crucify me now, that was extremely stupid of me.
LOL! What? Is this the first time you encounter a Tracker?

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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:29 pm

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Lady you're not that new. You should know what a tracker is and you should have read your role PM if you were tracker.

We wait for carca or replacement. I like LA lynch
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:43 pm

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Alonzo, congratulations on getting a free pass for day 2 while we deal with Angel. Performer, I'm proud you are no longer the most useless member of the town to be considered a detriment.

Carca/replacement: sit back and just die of poison for us, will ya?
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:47 pm

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il take it.
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In post 2128, Elsa Jay wrote:Performer, I'm proud you are no longer the most useless member of the town to be considered a detriment.
glad to be of service by getting townread for doing barely anything :cool:
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:18 pm

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Would either of you like to actually... Follow me and vote Angel? Or even follow Almost and get Maria? I disagree with Almost, but I'd rather we discuss between multiple options then just get lazy and do nothing while still just hanging Carca.
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:25 pm

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why would scum!me admit to this and not take the A50 route with my reasoning (Didn't think she was VT)? If I were scum, couldn't I have asked my buddies for confirmation instead of going public with my mistake, when my head was already somewhat on the table and doing this would just put me more into the fire?

Even I'm not that dumb.

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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:34 pm

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can someone give me cliffnotes on whats going on please I can check up on the thread a bit but not gonna re read
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:39 pm

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MariaR wrote:can someone give me cliffnotes on whats going on please I can check up on the thread a bit but not gonna re read
Almost being maniacal.
Carca bailing as caught scum.
Maria being pretty.
Angel being a Newb.
Purrocat being a Thot.
Alonzo coasting into day 3.

Is that good?
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:44 pm

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In post 2134, Elsa Jay wrote:
MariaR wrote:can someone give me cliffnotes on whats going on please I can check up on the thread a bit but not gonna re read
Almost being maniacal.
Carca bailing as caught scum.
Maria being pretty.
Angel being a Newb.
Purrocat being a Thot.
Alonzo coasting into day 3.

Is that good?
Yes I feel very caught up ty.
C-can I have a srs one too
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:56 pm

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Lady is ignoring obvious clues and confused Tracker and Watcher. Obviously lied about being Tracker since she didn't even know it's true role.

Carca claimed VT but got called out by Almost who is a Vanilla Cop.

Carca may also have been poisoned by Ruby's toxic goo so they didnt show up since they're dying anyway.

Personally recommend getting rid of Lady for trying to defend Carca by tracking the VT CLAIM, the one claim that doesnt move. Also confused it with Watcher. One of the mafia have a 50/50 shot of dying anyway.
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:04 pm

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personally, I don't really believe A50 because I sr have and have had carca as a tr most of the game. I have a pressing issue with the result and that can only be answered by Carca. I can't say what it is because then Carca can base there answer around it. So for now I think waiting for the replacement is a good idea. Lady confusing watcher/tracker doesn't really bother me? I think at most 1 scum is in those 3 together and watcher is one of the best roles in the game so lynching that right away is eh.
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:06 pm

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But it's an Open Modular Setup. Watcher isn't one of those options. She basically lied about both ways looking at it.
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:20 pm

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Oh is it not?
So Lady either lied or confused tracker for watcher? Hmmmmm
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:21 pm

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My question is why does scum lady lie in the first place? We're obv gonna figure out it's a lie. I do believe her result because...yeah why lie at all
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:25 pm

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In post 2137, MariaR wrote:personally, I don't really believe A50 because I sr have and have had carca as a tr most of the game.
I have a pressing issue with the result and that can only be answered by Carca.
I can't say what it is because then Carca can base there answer around it.
So for now I think waiting for the replacement is a good idea.
Lady confusing watcher/tracker doesn't really bother me? I think at most 1 scum is in those 3 together and watcher is one of the best roles in the game so lynching that right away is eh.
Bookmarking this for later.

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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:28 pm

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In post 2137, MariaR wrote:personally, I don't really believe A50 because I sr have and have had carca as a tr most of the game.
Also this is most funny in light of this:
In post 1971, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Carca
In post 1990, MariaR wrote:UNVOTE:
Don't want self hammers
So, Maria doesn't believe me, but voted Carca whom she was TRing anyway, and the only reason she unvoted is to avoid a self-hammer.

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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:33 pm

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In post 2142, Almost50 wrote:So, Maria doesn't believe me, but voted Carca whom she was TRing anyway, and the only reason she unvoted is to avoid a self-hammer.
Na. I couldn't think of a good reason to unvote without blurting out why Carca could still be town. Elsa gave me the perfect excuse to unvote.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:34 pm

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Like I thought it was a hard guilty then I was like "wait a moment" and then I needed to find a reason to unvote. *shrug* if you wanna try and push me A50 go for it who was it the one who said they tunneled who?
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:35 pm

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So why did you vote in the first place when you still have me down as Scum?

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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:36 pm

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Because I was stupid and thought it was a hard guilty until I thought for a moment.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:39 pm

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Well he caught her lying. That's a form of guilty, at least.
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:06 pm

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Now let's see who's tunneling whom, shall we?

This is you:

In post 303, MariaR wrote:
In post 301, Almost50 wrote:@Chara: Noted. You might have noticed I didn't look at you much either, and it's for a reason.

Right now Purr is exhausting all her chances with me. I said I don't see scum!her doing this silly push on me, but she has outdone herself with that "selective/out of context quoting" which you know I really hate. Now why would TOWN ever do that when the explanation was not even a line below, but started ON THE SAME LINE she stopped at?

VOTE: Purr

This needs to get flipped NOW rather than 24 hours later!!!!
VOTE: A50
Will give more thoughts later but for now
In post 360, MariaR wrote:I'm going out and I forgot what I said I'd answer too besides my a50 read if anyone wants me to answer shit just quote it or ask me and I'll get to it when I get back
In post 658, MariaR wrote:Because I basically forgot all my reads besides having a sr on a50 and yourself. So I'm resetting *shrug* believe me or don't.
In post 659, MariaR wrote:Here Dunn just for you
VOTE: A50
just cause you think you're trying now I'll move~
In post 778, MariaR wrote:Thanks for stating the obvious A50 continue to keep that up instead of giving actual options. No srsly it makes it easier to lynch you tomorrow
In post 1101, MariaR wrote:
In post 1098, Performer wrote:maria if I died today
then who would you say is scum next
A50.
In post 1162, MariaR wrote:VOTE: A50
Pedit: Very true
In post 1237, MariaR wrote:
In post 1210, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1162, MariaR wrote:VOTE: A50
Pedit: Very true
I knew it would come down to this. This is why I hate playing with you. Scum you tunnels me, and Town you SRs me all the same.
ooo nice ate first I'm hearing at this point.
In post 1688, MariaR wrote:
In post 1686, Dunnstral wrote:Hey earth to MariaR

I think A50 is scum over Alonzo right now
Why not both. I'll lynch either though
In post 1934, MariaR wrote:VOTE: A50
This or alan
In post 1951, MariaR wrote:Join A50 and I'll give you a pass for the next day.
I'll explain why you're scum when I'm less busy so prob tomorrow
In post 2105, MariaR wrote:Sorry guys with holidays coming up I'm a mess.
I saw we unvoted w/e there name is can we go back to lynching alonzo/a50
In post 2137, MariaR wrote:personally, I don't really believe A50 because I sr have and have had carca as a tr most of the game. I have a pressing issue with the result and that can only be answered by Carca. I can't say what it is because then Carca can base there answer around it. So for now I think waiting for the replacement is a good idea. Lady confusing watcher/tracker doesn't really bother me? I think at most 1 scum is in those 3 together and watcher is one of the best roles in the game so lynching that right away is eh.
And this is me:

In post 429, Almost50 wrote:I can roll the dice until I get a 5 and then vote Maria. Would that be "proven randomness"?? :P
In post 777, Almost50 wrote:I have no read on Maria, but one thing that I noticed is she's trying her best to find an alternative to the Dunn wagon while they actively take bouts at each other!
In post 871, Almost50 wrote:OK.. and if I'm a Cop I'd be on MariaR or Chara. But -of course- that's IF I was the Cop, which I'm not.

VOTE: Dunn

Just do it EJ... put him @ L1
In post 1190, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1119, MariaR wrote:Elsa should visit me everytime if they're town so it doesn't work. That's just such a scum sounding role though
I agree. Elsa should provide cover for you so no investigative/informative could EVER get a hold on you. You'd be Ninja yourself to Tracker/Watcher and appear innocent to Alignment Cop. I have no idea how it interacts with Vanilla Cop and/or Neapolitan since neither give a hard guilty anyway, so you appearing Not Vanilla or even Not Vanilla Town isn't anything I'd be pushing you over unless you claimed a VT.
In post 1205, Almost50 wrote:So far:

3- MariaR claimed Ascetic. Why she DIDN'T claim that earlier is the question. I believe Ascetic is a modifier you need to claim at the start of the game to avoid having investigative/informative/protective roles wasting a night action on you anyway.

P-edit: Where? Show me where you claimed, please.
In post 1958, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1949, Chara wrote:
In post 1939, Almost50 wrote:@Chara: Maybe they can only appear as different alignments.
that's also an assumption about the setup.
it's something i'd listen to with flips to back it up, not a theory based on your perception of how Anon would choose to answer questions.

and Carca's VT claim was very town, though that's besides my point.
Ok, let's lynch her and lynch me and then you'll have your flips.

P.S. Now I know you're scum. I just don't have the energy to push it, so GG all.. and congrats to the scum team of Chara/Maria/Carca
In post 1963, Almost50 wrote:It's just a gut feeling that you and Maria are now playing "Good one, Bad one" on me, while actively distancing form each other. One smooth talks me out of a SR on a p, while the other tunnels me aggressively for no apparent reason.
In post 2113, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2111, Lady Angel wrote:I didn't believe a50 because Carcalilly did nothing last night, which makes me think she was VT.
Another question that springs to mind (but not necessarily to you): So, Lady Angel "hypothetically" had some reason to suspect my result. What was Purr's? And..

What is Maria's?

VOTE: Maria

She was willing to lynch Carca, and now she is calling for my lynch too. How can she believe my result on Carca AND still think I'm scum??
In post 2117, Almost50 wrote: But I'm more confident now in MariaR flipping scum, and even more than I'm confident in my own result on Carca.

Like, Carca may theoretically still flip a TPR. Lady Angel may theoretically have got that result on Carca as either alignment, either because Carca really didn;t act or because she's Ninja.

What is damning about Maria is her supporting the lynch AND calling me scum at the same breath. This -to me- could mean Carca is Town after all (stupid claim, but whatever), and Maria knew it. She wanted Carca to get mislynched and then she would have turned on me anyway, and when that got stalled she turned on me just the same.

Note: Maria flipped against me BEFORE Lady Angel said anything.

It's Maria + Purr + Carca/Koki/Lady/EJ (yeah, you know I won't ever trust you 100%)
In post 2121, Almost50 wrote:I have my own hypothesis on this. Maria sends Purr out to support her in attacking me, and even more fiercely than Maria herself, so when I FoS Purr it looks like OMGUS and she can discredit my pushes on her and her partners. Do NOT underestimate Scum!Maria.
In post 2141, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2137, MariaR wrote:personally, I don't really believe A50 because I sr have and have had carca as a tr most of the game.
I have a pressing issue with the result and that can only be answered by Carca.
I can't say what it is because then Carca can base there answer around it.
So for now I think waiting for the replacement is a good idea.
Lady confusing watcher/tracker doesn't really bother me? I think at most 1 scum is in those 3 together and watcher is one of the best roles in the game so lynching that right away is eh.
Bookmarking this for later.
In post 2142, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2137, MariaR wrote:personally, I don't really believe A50 because I sr have and have had carca as a tr most of the game.
Also this is most funny in light of this:
In post 1971, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Carca
In post 1990, MariaR wrote:UNVOTE:
Don't want self hammers
So, Maria doesn't believe me, but voted Carca whom she was TRing anyway, and the only reason she unvoted is to avoid a self-hammer.
13 times including 4 votes from you on me vs 12 times including 1 vote from me on you.

Looking closer you made 303 & 360 before I ever mentioned you, and even when I did in 429 it was a sarcastic comment.

Yet you made 758 & 759 and I responded in 777 which you quickly countered in 778 then I requested a Cop on you in 871

1101 & 1162 of yours came way before I started taking the bait and made my 1190 & 1205

Then you finished our interactions for D1 with 1237 & 1688

On D2 I didn't mention you before 1958 then 1963, at which point you had already made 1934 & 1951 voting me out of the gate for no reason but an unexplained SR on me carried out from D1 with no further evidence.

It didn't take you much to renew the charge on me with 2105, again for no stated reason. Note that you had promised you'd be stating reasons since D1 and never actually did.

Then
I made a case
on you in in 2113 & followed that with 2117 & 2121 and you responded with 2137, so I pointed out the contradictions in both 2141 & 2142.

And you have the guts to accuse me of tunneling you? Lady, have you no shame??

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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:08 pm

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In post 2146, MariaR wrote:Because I was stupid and thought it was a hard guilty until I thought for a moment.
And why would you believe a hard guilty from someone you're SRing? And what changes your stance regarding >me< when you realize it's a soft guilty?? You either SR me and don't believe what I say or do NOT SR me so are willing to sheep a hard guilty declared by me, and then back down when you realize it's not as hard, but w.o. FoS'ing me. You simply can't have your cake and eat it too.

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