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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:12 pm

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In post 2138, Elsa Jay wrote:But it's an Open Modular Setup. Watcher isn't one of those options. She basically lied about both ways looking at it.
So why would I lie about thinking I was a watcher instead of a tracker, given how easily it would be to debunk wether I'm a watcher or not? If you think I'm lying about assuming I'm a watcher, why would I have gone with that instead of saying I didn't think Carcalilly was actually the VT and got a result that confirmed that she possibly was?

What strategic purpose does making up this story serve as any alignment?
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:18 pm

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In post 2148, Almost50 wrote:And you have the guts to accuse me of tunneling you? Lady, have you no shame??
Awwww cute. So me having a sr on you with the only answer you've given being "maria scumreads me" means I should unvote? You've pushed obv town have given bad reasoning and the dead flipped obv town wants your head. I can admit I'm in a tunnel and I want you dead but at least my reasoning supports my logic unlike your random spurts of nonsense. Now if you want to try and disprove me by all means
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:20 pm

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In post 2149, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2146, MariaR wrote:Because I was stupid and thought it was a hard guilty until I thought for a moment.
And why would you believe a hard guilty from someone you're SRing? And what changes your stance regarding >me< when you realize it's a soft guilty?? You either SR me and don't believe what I say or do NOT SR me so are willing to sheep a hard guilty declared by me, and then back down when you realize it's not as hard, but w.o. FoS'ing me. You simply can't have your cake and eat it too.
My vote is depending on Carcas answer.
I would believe a hard guilty from my sr if it was not lylo anytime of the week because why 1 for 1 randomly like that. But this isn't a hard guilty. I do believe your claim and your check makes sense from town or scum but depending on Carcas answer I may vote you or I may not.
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:21 pm

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I'm not some unreasonable person who won't change my stances a50 but when you/alonzo don't give me any reason to not change my stances and my reads have been so far proven to be correct why should I?
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:16 pm

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If lady thought she was a watcher why would she watch the VT claim. Makes no sense
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:42 pm

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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:46 pm

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In post 2154, Kokichi Oma wrote:If lady thought she was a watcher why would she watch the VT claim. Makes no sense
Because I mentioned more than once yesterday that she was one of my top townreads?
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:49 pm

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Talk me through your rationale to watching Lady over say, Ruby or myself or Maria? @Lady
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:49 pm

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watching Carca**
I'm sick leave me aloneee
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:28 am

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In post 2134, Elsa Jay wrote: Purrocat being a Thot.

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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:33 am

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In post 2134, Elsa Jay wrote:
MariaR wrote:can someone give me cliffnotes on whats going on please I can check up on the thread a bit but not gonna re read
Almost being maniacal.
Carca bailing as caught scum.
Maria being pretty.
Angel being a Newb.
Purrocat being a Thot.
Alonzo coasting into day 3.

Is that good?
+ elsa being savage af
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:34 am

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In post 2155, the worst wrote:Purrc
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please hold my vote for me... I trust you guys......
im going to go cry for 40 hours bye
also trying to parse the la claim lol
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:36 am

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good fucking luck, that's far beyond my current clogged-up capabilities

is elsa a wolf this time or am i dumb?
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:43 am

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im sharpening my claws for elsa so

yes

but otherwise, yes. tbh
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is carca a scum this time

am i dumb?
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:48 am

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carcaaaaaaaa i don't know
she had too many credible townreads and i feel like she's maybe siteflaked not just lurkin here?
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:30 am

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Even a Siteflake doesn't mean Almost's result and a catch of her lie isn't as damning in my eyes.
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In post 2138, Elsa Jay wrote:But it's an Open Modular Setup. Watcher isn't one of those options. She basically lied about both ways looking at it.
So why would I lie about thinking I was a watcher instead of a tracker, given how easily it would be to debunk wether I'm a watcher or not? If you think I'm lying about assuming I'm a watcher, why would I have gone with that instead of saying I didn't think Carcalilly was actually the VT and got a result that confirmed that she possibly was?

What strategic purpose does making up this story serve as any alignment?
You're literally now trying to get townread because you made a Newbie-Scum Mistake of not reading the Open Setup and learning the roles. A town would at the very least read their own PM card.

Instead of trying to say what you did is townie, try and prove keeping yourself around wont hurt town in the long run. Because people are pushing back hard on the Carca lynch because she did townie things beforehand. You have not done anything of the sort.
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:31 am

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I was busy with work the past couple of days. Been catching up on the past dozen or so pages last night / this morning.
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:33 am

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Don't see the scum-motivation behind Almost's Neo claim, especially considering his VT claim D1. Even if he was poisoned and wanted to take someone down with him, A)Why choose Carca of all people B)Why not claim cop and site a hard guilty on her via cop C)Why backtrack from pushing Carca when he supposedly came out to get Carca lynched D)Why claim a role that's virtually identical to VC. Can't really see her coming out as scum to try and lynch Carca just to shift directions soon after.
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:37 am

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Lady's claim really confuses me. It comes completely out of the blue, which on one hand is kind of towny but if Carca is scum I could easily see her claiming early to justify why she defended her partner. Wouldn't be great play but she is a noob overall so it's not too out there imo. Apparently Lady thought she was a watcher instead of a tracker, which is questionable but let's roll with it for a moment. Why would she watch a VT claim, even if she was tr'ing Carca? Scum wouldn't kill a VT claim, and the only town PR I could think of that would actually target Carca is Neo/Cop, but I don't see much purpose in catching one of those. And her "not believing A50's claim" and thinking "Carca's a VT" doesn't jive well with post #2011. If she did think Carca was VT then she'd have reason to suspect Almost is lying and claim when she's at her highest risk of being lynched instead of when the wagon's already dying down. Also don't like how she's all like "my mistake was stupid -- you can crucify me for it" yet straight after she gets defensive and says her actions don't have any scum-motivation.
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:41 am

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I guess we'll see what happens when Carca/her replacement shows up, whether they maintain they're VT or claim a pr instead. Personally I could see her fake-claiming VT for towncred -- it was playing to her town meta and had her tr'ed by a large number of players, and early claims in general are tr'ed more often than not. I didn't think she anticipated being outed by a Neo, and if it wasn't for that she could've rode on her claim for a while. At the same time I could see her gambiting to avoid a nk as town, but overall I thought her ISO was more scummy than not so I'm not inclined to believe that.
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:02 am

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In post 2157, the worst wrote:Talk me through your rationale to watching Lady over say, Ruby or myself or Maria? @Lady
At the end of day 1, Carca was one of the most heavily TRed players in the game and my own top TR, meaning while I thought I was a watcher I was going to watch her in case she got killed.
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:17 am

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In post 2132, Lady Angel wrote:why would scum!me admit to this and not take the A50 route with my reasoning (Didn't think she was VT)? If I were scum, couldn't I have asked my buddies for confirmation instead of going public with my mistake, when my head was already somewhat on the table and doing this would just put me more into the fire?

Even I'm not that dumb.

I'm sorry for not proofreading my role but doing the stuff I needed to do to graduate came first, and that got lost in the shuffle.
let me get this right since i havent read most of the thread upon replacing in - you were tracker, carca claimed vt, you tracked her by pure accident according to you?
elaborate why you tracked her of everyone
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:20 am

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In post 2136, Elsa Jay wrote:Lady is ignoring obvious clues and confused Tracker and Watcher. Obviously lied about being Tracker since she didn't even know it's true role.

Carca claimed VT but got called out by Almost who is a Vanilla Cop.

Carca may also have been poisoned by Ruby's toxic goo so they didnt show up since they're dying anyway.

Personally recommend getting rid of Lady for trying to defend Carca by tracking the VT CLAIM, the one claim that doesnt move. Also confused it with Watcher. One of the mafia have a 50/50 shot of dying anyway.
:up: scum fabricating about LA confusing watcher and tracker, a50 claiming , and carca being scum AND getting poisoned ?
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:20 am

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In post 2170, Lady Angel wrote:
In post 2157, the worst wrote:Talk me through your rationale to watching Lady over say, Ruby or myself or Maria? @Lady
At the end of day 1, Carca was one of the most heavily TRed players in the game and my own top TR, meaning while I thought I was a watcher I was going to watch her in case she got killed.
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how familiar are you with this playerlist on d1 (before rr & dunn died)?
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