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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:54 pm

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In post 2321, Persivul wrote: I'm VT - Chastity. You're lying, or someone messed with your investigation. I haven't checked to see if there is a role to do that. If not, you need to die.

And hi! :)
I don't see anything specific that would account for your result, but:

- I'm tired and might have missed it
- There's some ambiguous roles - doesn't really say what they do
- My role PM doesn't match what's in the samples. That's pretty messed up.

So, I'll let you go on the investigation, but I don't trust you, as you were in Ruby's scum pool, and Ruby's dead.
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:56 pm

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In post 2307, Performer wrote:Persivul how does it feel to replace into a town slot? :lol:

Before anyone thinks something bizarre - no, I don't know persivul . But his slot is likely town.
Here's how it feels:

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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:01 pm

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Performer is a mess tonally but he's slightly more than likely town as well. : ]
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:07 pm

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no one asked you quackers
I bet Maria is scum this game
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:08 pm

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if they had I'd ignore them

just how I roll
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:08 pm

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wtf so scummy B)
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:13 pm

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ya I'm a woof bork bork
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:18 pm

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Im saying elsa or a50 today
I Dnt rly townread purrformer tho
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:45 pm

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In post 2324, the worst wrote:let's be real tho
town doesn't have a nea and a vt does it?

VOTE: A50
No it doesn't and I was wondering why everybody bought my claim that easy! :lol:

I'm a VT and I was doing my own thing to get reads on all slots. Lady Angel's reactions and attitude was really really bad.

And before you jump the gun: It was like.. make a push on Carca and see who opposed it strongly to evaluate whether Carca was scum with someone. When most everybody (but LA) bought the claim I was trying to find a way around it w.o. outing, so scum would have a me and Carca as potential PRs and shoot one of us. Simple, huh?

I didn't foresee Carca flaking, and -of course- playing with Persy is a whole lot different. I don't want him to get shot (I didn't mind losing VT!Carca tbh, because her play is midiocre anyway, so "cannon fodder"), and -of course- I just LOVE to be NK'd as a VT, and was fairly disappointed I wasn't.

Hint to those not in the know: I often claim VT as a PR, and even when I do as a VT I still get NK'd all the time. It didn't work this time, but I actually wanted to post this one more time.
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:46 pm

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In post 2332, Purrcocet wrote:Im saying elsa or a50 today
I Dnt rly townread purrformer tho
What's the case on elsa, SCUM?

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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:55 pm

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In post 2332, Purrcocet wrote:Im saying elsa or a50 today
I Dnt rly townread purrformer tho
I quite like this call
purrformer could claw his way back into my scumpool

Eod1 with dunn/purrf made me push him up my read list, tbh a lot further than I expected
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:58 pm

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In post 2333, Almost50 wrote: No it doesn't and I was wondering why everybody bought my claim that easy! :lol:

I'm a VT and I was doing my own thing to get reads on all slots.
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:15 pm

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Ehh, considering he made the entire darn case that was like "only me and elsa know our roles", you all should have suspected something was up. He himself said one of us was lying. You didnt expect it to be him?
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:30 pm

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"Everyone believed my claim!"
and he has the 1 person who said he was fake claiming as scum lol

idk for what reason either besides an association with Maria that came out of the wind
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:00 pm

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Charaaaaa where are you :(
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:07 pm

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In post 2324, the worst wrote:let's be real tho
town doesn't have a nea and a vt does it?

VOTE: A50
Nea & Vanilla Cop are essentially the same roles according to a quick lookup. It makes way more sense to have scum and town rather than town and town for those 2 roles, since dunn flipped green as that role already.

carca claimed vt, a50 checked her anyway, said she's NOT vt
persivul ALSO confirmed they're vt
a50 strongly suspected LA - so LA is probably opposite alignment of EJ & A50 considering the latter two's pushes today, as well as a50's push for dunnstral on d1

The above points combined with my NRG experience, point to a50 being today's lynch.
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Snowman has disappeared from the face of the earth so that's scummy as well, seems like he's coasting.
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:12 pm

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In post 2333, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2324, the worst wrote:let's be real tho
town doesn't have a nea and a vt does it?

VOTE: A50
No it doesn't and I was wondering why everybody bought my claim that easy! :lol:

I'm a VT and I was doing my own thing to get reads on all slots. Lady Angel's reactions and attitude was really really bad.

And before you jump the gun: It was like.. make a push on Carca and see who opposed it strongly to evaluate whether Carca was scum with someone. When most everybody (but LA) bought the claim I was trying to find a way around it w.o. outing, so scum would have a me and Carca as potential PRs and shoot one of us. Simple, huh?

I didn't foresee Carca flaking, and -of course- playing with Persy is a whole lot different. I don't want him to get shot (I didn't mind losing VT!Carca tbh, because her play is midiocre anyway, so "cannon fodder"), and -of course- I just LOVE to be NK'd as a VT, and was fairly disappointed I wasn't.

Hint to those not in the know: I often claim VT as a PR, and even when I do as a VT I still get NK'd all the time. It didn't work this time, but I actually wanted to post this one more time.
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just saw this.

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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:20 pm

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-A few things I got from the whole roleplay act by a50 of him fake claiming Vanilla Cop, is that LA ended up voting EJ instead of carc. So...that makes me think LA is likelier town.
Other I'd think LA would just be "oh I believe you so I'll vote carc"
-My memory is lousy but iirc, Mari, Snowman , Chara - were avoiding talking about the carca slot while a50 was role playing

Other than that, a50, I seriously hope you got some good insight from all that. If not, then I'll be disappointed .
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:22 pm

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What's a bit of a letdown from that, is that a50 chose carca of all people. If he chose someone who wasn't v/la the whole time into Monday, then that would've been more effective of a reaction test gambit.
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:25 pm

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In post 2332, Purrcocet wrote:or a50 today
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Are YOU town?

Why ej/a50/performer?
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:29 pm

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In case persi is somehow scum here, which is unlikely but I like to cover my bases.

@A50 what's persi's town and scum meta like?
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:43 pm

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Performer: I am especially grateful for the time Carca flaking provided me to keep that gambit alive. It wasn't expected, but it worked for the best.

I am still puzzled by the TR you have on LA tbh. Just bc she decided to vote someone you SR doesn't mean she's town nor that your SR on EJ is correct.

I am analyzing LA's play via her claim and claimed action, and you quoted the post where I summed it all up. Is short, nothing adds up on what she said. Not her confusion about what her role is, and certainly not the reasoning for picking her night target.

If she though she was a Watcher, the last person she'd want to WATCH is the claimed VT. Period. Nobody was ever going to shoot Carca on N1, N2 or even N3. Literally ANY other slot would have been a better target for the Watcher.

Now add she said Carca was a "claimed PR" and you know it's a scum slot fumbling for what to say.

LA's "emotional speech" about her sucking and deserving to be lynched doesn't score points on my register AT ALL. In fact, I don't get affected by AtE much. It's a ploy to win everybody's compassion. Nothing more and nothing less.

Now, the next suspect would still be Percy, but it's both conditional and circumstantial. For Carca (Percy) to be Scum; LA has to be. If LA was Town then I have no case on Carca. My thought process is "why would Scum!LA go out of her way to defend Town!Carca", and this is where the circumstantial part comes in: Scum may indeed have a Vanilla Cop, and since they already know who Scum are it is identical to a Town Neapolitan. If they checked Carca last night they don't want to push her today as she is no threat to them (LA even gets to pocket Carca with that defense), AND they already know her role. They'd want to push someone else in hopes for a TPR claim/reveal.

Purr is actually a stronger Sr for me than Carca is. I can't quite explain it, but if you try to see it my way and assume (hypothetically from your PoV) that LA is scum, then try to reread the whole D2 action I think you'll see Purr as a SR and independently than either of LA/Carca

I'm not exactly clearing tw, but I have nothing damning against him. He's just not in the mood, and he's sick so I'll give him some slack.

So. let me go back to LA: She's SCUM. And Purr is SCUM. I dunno who their third might be yet, but give me time and I'll probably figure it out. Right now I already have 2 lynch targets in my pool, and I can only vote one of them today even, so let me worry about the third Scum when I've confirmed at least one of these two.

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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:46 pm

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In post 2343, Performer wrote:What's a bit of a letdown from that, is that a50 chose carca of all people. If he chose someone who wasn't v/la the whole time into Monday, then that would've been more effective of a reaction test gambit.
No it wouldn't. And plus, nobody else claimed VT, and I dunno who might be a VT/Goon to try and push them like that. Like I could've gone for X, and X would have claimed they are an unidentified PR and that would be it.

Carca was the PERFECT target courtesy of her VT claim AND her VLA status. That is what provided me enough time to keep that play alive.

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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:47 pm

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In post 2345, Performer wrote:In case persi is somehow scum here, which is unlikely but I like to cover my bases.

@A50 what's persi's town and scum meta like?
It's been a while, but id he replaced into a scum slot there's a good chance he will replace out.

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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:50 pm

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His 2325 (top of this page) gives me strong town vibes from him though. It's funny how you can SR a slot with one player and as soon as their replacement comes in they force you to flip your read on the slot.

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