micro 833: a coalition (D O N E)

[Gamma Emerald]

Sup

Sup

I'm on page 35 and kinda tired of reading

already skimming some posts

game got stalled for sure there

DVa post about replacement kinda got me, but you never know

It would help if I could get a good read on Gamma, my PoE list and Coalition would be thankful

Jeez where was this version of you in Lynch the Wolves

[Nibbui]

where are your reads at now?

NSG/TDW/Skitter/Me/ and one more probably wins the game.

As I'm scum lean though I guess we are on NSG/TDW/Skitter and I can't get as confident on my reads on the remaining slots. Might need to do some ISO review afterwards.

@NSG, by the way, what do you think that it's characteristic of town-Raya play and scum-Raya play? Majority of her posts seemed too shy to take a stance

that's..... a lotta reading for one go :0

No joking...
It's pretty late here already

[Nibbui]

Sup

Sup

I'm on page 35 and kinda tired of reading

already skimming some posts

game got stalled for sure there

DVa post about replacement kinda got me, but you never know

It would help if I could get a good read on Gamma, my PoE list and Coalition would be thankful

Jeez where was this version of you in Lynch the Wolves

haha

sorry that I replaced out there, it would be pretty fun to actually scream in the thread just as much as I was screaming in the dead thread for Math & Titus lynch

[Gamma Emerald]

Sup

Sup

I'm on page 35 and kinda tired of reading

already skimming some posts

game got stalled for sure there

DVa post about replacement kinda got me, but you never know

It would help if I could get a good read on Gamma, my PoE list and Coalition would be thankful

Jeez where was this version of you in Lynch the Wolves

haha

sorry that I replaced out there, it would be pretty fun to actually scream in the thread just as much as I was screaming in the dead thread for Math & Titus lynch

Were you spoiled? Don’t lie cos I’ll find out. If you weren’t spoiled you’ll gain a lot more credibility in the accuracy department

[Nibbui]

Were you spoiled? Don’t lie cos I’ll find out. If you weren’t spoiled you’ll gain a lot more credibility in the accuracy department

I wasn't, I personally asked for Mastina to not spoil me.

My reads are kinda luck based though, there's games that I do average but there is games that I don't get scum at all

I even was saying for the mob lynch and Creature to vig Arc9 in the dead thread (that was scum as well)

But like, at around the same time as that game, I was playing a mini normal modded by Espeonage and didn't get a single scum right

(Duckling fooled me good there)

[Gamma Emerald]

Huh
I might look into those and see if I can’t notice what is different.

[Nibbui]

I can feel a bit of towniness on TW/robot slot but I'm kinda reserved about it...

[the worst]

I feel like your reads are largely accurate and pure except you get thrown out of orbit a bit when you're distracted in the flow of the thread (I don't think you had any idea I was woofin the one time I rolled scum against you because I just pocketed you d1?)

just musing tho

[the worst]

oh yeah I stopped reading that post halfway
yes, 1232 applies

[the worst]

so what's your verdict on your friend TDW?

[the worst]

o hey welcome Nibbui!!

yo duckling

are you a town good boy this game?

please be!

this was a very Yuurei post I guess, largely I think your alts read pretty different tho

[Nibbui]

I feel like your reads are largely accurate and pure except you get thrown out of orbit a bit when you're distracted in the flow of the thread (I don't think you had any idea I was woofin the one time I rolled scum against you because I just pocketed you d1?)

just musing tho

I wasn't 100% but I was like 95%. I just looked on you at that Espe game and thought "nahh, scum!duckling here would talk a lot more, this is pr duckling for sure". Then when you claimed I thought "yeah, 100% town duckling". Never would have caught you at all if not for the mechanic problem.

ftr the first time i thought i figured it out i was thinking a50
then i was confused
then i thought it was you (i realized non-north-american timezone)
and then you pranked me with vizzy
and then i went back to check spelling (flavour, recognise, etc)
and then i settled on you again
and then you talked a lot about my meta

and then i just like knew it was you

I too thought first about a50 for the emojis
afterwards I was wondering if it was really Vizzy because it was a 180º on personality
When robot said "skitter is one of my top favorite players on the site" I just thought "ahhhhh, it's duckling isn't it?"

this was a very Yuurei post I guess, largely I think your alts read pretty different tho

yeah, I think each alt has their own meta although has similarities.

I kinda want go to sleep but there's still quite some pages left...

[the worst]

get some sleep when you need it.

I think we need an official skitter fabclub so I don't get caught out when I try to alt...

[Gamma Emerald]

I have my own alting plans
I don’t know what I want to do with them though, as my main hope for them (meta re-writing) kinda feels pointless now)
I could just use it as an excuse to play in a certain fashion.

[The Dark Wanderer]

good morning everyone! let's talk about nibbui a little.

he has chosen skitter / NSG (the two town who are hard to remove from the townblock and have the most immediate influence in thread) as his core townreads and is going around that taking potshots on the townblock. i'm not going to use the quote feature for every single reference to all of these players but I've chosen what I think are fairly representative quotes regarding his reads. he's not explicitly calling people scum either he waffles on almost every single read he gives and is avoiding being locked into stances that would require him to support a full coalition without him or his buddy in it.

I can feel a bit of towniness on TW/robot slot but I'm kinda reserved about it...

calling TW town in direct interactions with him but refusing to commit to the read.

where are your reads at now?

NSG/TDW/Skitter/Me/ and one more probably wins the game.

As I'm scum lean though I guess we are on NSG/TDW/Skitter and I can't get as confident on my reads on the remaining slots. Might need to do some ISO review afterwards.

@NSG, by the way, what do you think that it's characteristic of town-Raya play and scum-Raya play? Majority of her posts seemed too shy to take a stance

that's..... a lotta reading for one go :0

No joking...
It's pretty late here already

taking potshots at the near-universal Raya36 townread.

TDW insisting that people should town read remember me of myself

It's a bit town indicative to me, but maybe he is just trying to take over the some pseudo-leader position to decide who goes to the coalition and who gets lynched afterwards because I don't feel great insight or genuiness in his reads. Even his tunneling about robot doesn't seem genuine imo.

I'm probably scum reading Raya, yeah, she circles around too much for me.

It's not because Gamma critiqued me just now but I don't see him in a good light. I waited a bit to see if he engaged in the game however it's page 15 and there's very little Gamma, although DVa doesn't doubt for even one moment her read on him.

Interesting enough his outburst seems more town than scum for

now

, I mean, is Gamma erractic enough to shade me for that as scum?

Although I need to say it's not organical.

HURT: everyone

HEAL: Northsidegal
HEAL: Nibbui

I'm wondering if I should add Skitter or Tesxx but I've become less enthusiastic about it.

TDW is kinda forming a exclusive-entry fanclub right there where you need to townread him to get in...

I feel good about NSG, not as town as I wanted her to be, but townier than the rest of the playerlist.

page 18

waffly townread on me, waffly townread on gamma?
even hesitates a bit on the northsidegal townread.

the point that I'm getting at is that he's calling people town to pocket them but using his refusal to commit to anything as a convenient excuse to actually place his vote and push the coalition in the direction that he desires. there is an absurd amount of waffle that he makes a show of in his iso and not only is he in full 'effort' mode right now in a way that feels disingenuous it's pretty clear that his priority is rerouting the gamestate. look at the way that he talks to me, he calls me potential scum for my refusal to townread anyone not townreading him, then in the next post turns around and tries to get me to townread him. he's not playing any specific hand of reads, he's bluffing whatever he needs to to reach out to the people that he considers the weak links in the coalition. it's most notable that he's gone after me the most given that I was the one who had the original yurikojasmine scumread that ended up catching on in the game.

the way that he's trying to appeal to me now is all kinds of slimy, I don't actually know who this guy is and I feel like he's just trying to use some imagined familiarity to ingratiate himself with me.

[Nibbui]

I mean TDW, some rebuttal main points here

1- I'm actually fishing for a coallition without either me or nm because I know you guys aren't going to put me, and I don't town read NM's slot
2- Raya is a "universal" town read mostly because NSG said she is? I saw most of the players not confident there
3 - I was waiting to finish my catchup to remove myself and put other people in the coallition, and it's not easy to decide between 2 of "Gamma, DVa, Irre, NM, TW". They are hard reads and I'm mulling it over, therefore need all the content I can get.

If you want to think I'm appealing for you go ahead, I just thought I met you once in MU but I guess it might be someone else...

there's like, 4 more pages I think, wait a bit

[Nibbui]

The reason I put myself in the coalition by the way is because I truly believed I would be able to spell my towniness for you

fail I guess

[Nibbui]

someone talk to me about dark wanderer

was hilariously obvtown early game

This...I just can't get it. I don't think TDW was that much towny in

early game

, I only felt it got better afterwards, and you've been saying that since forever and with a lot of confidence, never wavering. Don't you think that what TDW did in early game was fakeable and not-so-critical with his reads?

I've read 80% of yuriko and tex by reading the first 7 pages, yes?
I've been reading Gamma's ISO alongside reacting to new posts

so he goes straight to the ISO of people being suspected when he replaced in?

He is pretty smooth, interesting.

HEAL: DVa, The Worst, NSG, TDW, Gamma

This has been the gamewinning coalition for the entire game

Everyone fought me on the worst
everyone fought me on gamma
now everyone's fighting me on me

but this is still the best d1 win

you wanna do skitter's coalition, then get it fucking done so when it fails I can lynch her

Mmmmh, this looks really bad DVa...sorry if you're town though, it must have been pretty frustating.

[The Dark Wanderer]

you just made potshots at 3 more people, one of whom was me.

[Nibbui]

So I've finished I guess...
welp, that tired the hell out of me honestly

HURT: Nibbui
HEAL: Skitter
HEAL: TDW

so, I don't trust either Irrelephant, DVa or NM. I would say TW and Gamma would be my shots but I kinda want to hear more of Gamma

NM is unreadable for me
DVa sounded too desesperate
Irrelephant was too much trying to put himself and DVa when repped in, I need to review what he has been doing right now, if he has changed opinions I can reconsider (yeah, I skimmed a bit the last 2 pages)

[Nibbui]

you just made potshots at 3 more people, one of whom was me.

on the last post I actually said that you weren't so towny in

early game

, I even put it in italic. That's what I don't like about your playstyle, if I'm your scum read ok, but stop deliberately getting worked up and trying to fit everything in the bad guy narrative

About the others, can't I question them? It's not like don't still have doubts about them, I'm voting for them because they sound the most town, not because I read all of their actions as town

[Nibbui]

ok, so I just checked the Votecount and TW, DWa and Gama are all voting for themselves. Irrelephant coliation isn't complete though so he could still vote for himself.

haha

you guys all calling me scum but you're pretty suspicious yourself:lol:

I might get a lot more from mechanics I guess, later or if I feel energetic right now I'll start to mull over some actions.

[Gamma Emerald]

ok, so I just checked the Votecount and TW, DWa and Gama are all voting for themselves. Irrelephant coliation isn't complete though so he could still vote for himself.

haha

you guys all calling me scum but you're pretty suspicious yourself:lol:

I might get a lot more from mechanics I guess, later or if I feel energetic right now I'll start to mull over some actions.

Voting for yourself is suspicious how...??!?!!?? Like, their needs to be agreement on a group of 5, it’s pretty likely one of those group of five will be voting for that group
In fact it’s literally impossible from an arithmetic standpoint for no one in the coalition to vote for themselves for it
This feels kinda shady but maybe you’re just not used to this sort of thing idk...?

[Nibbui]

This setup is perfect for some wifom on who the scum team might be...



The worst, why DVa instead of skitter?

Irrelephant, would you be ok with voting for DVa or would you insist in voting for yourself?

(I'm kinda considering myself and NM out of the question choices from now on)

[Nibbui]

Voting for yourself is suspicious how...??!?!!?? Like, their needs to be agreement on a group of 5, it’s pretty likely one of those group of five will be voting for that group
In fact it’s literally impossible from an arithmetic standpoint for no one in the coalition to vote for themselves for it
This feels kinda shady but maybe you’re just not used to this sort of thing idk...?

I get it, voting for yourself raises the town chance of winning, but it's also essential for scum to put themselves or their partner in.

Gamma, that reminds me, you didn't answer me why you actually thought it was so *off* me using a similar system to catching up (and I already explained that that wasn't the case as well).

I mean, I can kinda imagine you wanting a reason to drop your read on Yukino and get a more popular coalition with yourself inside? Not that I can't see a town pov.

I'm mulling it over.