A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Gamma Emerald]

gotcha.

the more arrogantly an assertion is pushed, the better it feels to disprove it

also, shos is not shoshin

lolllll

[Nero Cain]

The fact that mastina making the kill makes perfect sense to me

We'll just have to agree to disagree b/c Mastina doesn't make the most sense to me. I mean certainly yeah mastina could carry out the kill b/c she and her team decided to make her expendable but I think conventional wisdom suggests that a mafia team will send one with much less heat on them.

[Vecna]

I still say he looks better than nsg and Nico together

You're not wrong.

And it's possible that Vizzy wasn't killed in the night for inactivity because he'd presubmitted an action.

#fuckit

VOTE: Nicorobin

Correct me if im wrong, but why are we assuming the pinball machine was repaired N4? Wouldnt it make more sense it was repaired N3 so that it could actually be used by Meme N4?

Meme, care to comment? When/how were you informed the repairguy came by?

[Jingle]

Correct me if im wrong, but why are we assuming the pinball machine was repaired N4? Wouldnt it make more sense it was repaired N3 so that it could actually be used by Meme N4?

I remembered that they had claimed not to have been repaired yet yesterday, but the post in question was the day before. I already realized I was being stupid.

[Vecna]

Vecna- Probably responsible for the missing kill N2. Possibly responsible for the missing kill tonight. Probably town.

I very much disagree with this. 1. No way scum shot at Mastina b/c she was scum 2. I highly doubt Mastina would be the one that carries out the kills b/c her getting tracked/watch is a death sentence and mafia needed those no lynches she was giving ya'll

Youre applying your logic in the wrong order though, thus resulting in the wrong outcome.

[Vecna]

The fact that mastina making the kill makes perfect sense to me

We'll just have to agree to disagree b/c Mastina doesn't make the most sense to me. I mean certainly yeah mastina could carry out the kill b/c she and her team decided to make her expendable but I think conventional wisdom suggests that a mafia team will send one with much less heat on them.

I agree with you Nero, it did not make a lot of sense for mastina to make the kill. That was also why I was townreading her, starting straight after N2. You can follow my entire projectory of the read on the slot, and im sure itll match quite perfectly. But she did make the kill that night, and then they let someone else do it the night after. Either that, or scum did try to kill JJH and hes telling the truth, OR there is yet another unclaimed ability that fucked with the scumkill. My money is on Mastina doing the kill. -Maybe- even because they theorycrafted a jailkeeper is a possibility, which would make it look like her slot really is town, and she got protected from the NK. That would involve quite a bit of foresight, and luck.....but its possible.

[Jingle]

My logic is:

Mastina made the kill > AS being shot > JJ being Shot > PR RB being town > Me being shot > scum No Kill

I doubt we'll get anywhere arguing back and forth there though, so...

Still. I'd rather lynch NR and potentially resolve half of the things we're speculating about when it seems to me it's a foregone conclusion that that is going to happen today.

[Nero Cain]

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=75812

Was town here and he seemed pretty tunnely. like he started out with 3 scumreads and stuck with them until he voted another scum in late game. He was a town tracker.

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=76042

Was scum here and didn't do much. Kinda randomly voted 2 guys. Similarish to here.

I'd also like to note that Jingle was in that game and scum.

Subject: Mini Theme 2007: Police Academy 1 - Game Over

The main thing was just blocking the two mislynches on day two

That's what really swung the game I think

Jingle’s scum team basically abaonded him in thread.

But he also chose to use the strategy of giving town correct mechanical advice

in lieu of letting town derp its way into stuff like repeating peeks, or in lieu of more actively powerwolfing, and got the double whammy of being scum read for the wrong reasons and not actually being able to push the game state in a proscum direction.
It all very well might have worked out without ank swinging the day 2 lynch... but there was little margin for error here.
Scum also got hosed by the rand with town randing sane cop and randoms giving “correct” peeks instead of throwing a lot of noise into the works.

Isn't he doing the same thing here?

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=76359

i know that NSG already posted this but he's doing that same vote hop thing.

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=72405
Town here. Seems to be going after the same guys he scumread earlier.

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=72485
Tunnels bomb right out of the gate and then Vedith until she dies. I guess that later on he does get kinda vote hoppy.

All in all I feel like his s1 play was more like his scum play instead of his town play but you guys can read for yourselves or think w/e.

[Gamma Emerald]

who is that about

[Jingle]

Me.

[Jingle]

Wait, no, jj. Got confused by Police academy.

[Lady Angel]

VOTE: NicoRobin

Lynch nico > Lynch NSG (if Nico flips town) / see what Meme's next result is (if scum). I would like to see him cop myself and Creature tonight to resolve the reason his result doesn't match up with my role, but if that doesn't happen that's fine.

[jjh927]

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=75812

Was town here and he seemed pretty tunnely. like he started out with 3 scumreads and stuck with them until he voted another scum in late game. He was a town tracker.

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=76042

Was scum here and didn't do much. Kinda randomly voted 2 guys. Similarish to here.

I'd also like to note that Jingle was in that game and scum.

Subject: Mini Theme 2007: Police Academy 1 - Game Over

The main thing was just blocking the two mislynches on day two

That's what really swung the game I think

Jingle’s scum team basically abaonded him in thread.

But he also chose to use the strategy of giving town correct mechanical advice

in lieu of letting town derp its way into stuff like repeating peeks, or in lieu of more actively powerwolfing, and got the double whammy of being scum read for the wrong reasons and not actually being able to push the game state in a proscum direction.
It all very well might have worked out without ank swinging the day 2 lynch... but there was little margin for error here.
Scum also got hosed by the rand with town randing sane cop and randoms giving “correct” peeks instead of throwing a lot of noise into the works.

Isn't he doing the same thing here?

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=76359

i know that NSG already posted this but he's doing that same vote hop thing.

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=72405
Town here. Seems to be going after the same guys he scumread earlier.

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=72485
Tunnels bomb right out of the gate and then Vedith until she dies. I guess that later on he does get kinda vote hoppy.

All in all I feel like his s1 play was more like his scum play instead of his town play but you guys can read for yourselves or think w/e.

Holy fuck this is some of the worst meta I have ever seen

[jjh927]

C I R C U M S T A N C E S

[jjh927]

Game 1- replaced into a slot right at the end of day 2
Game 2 - I lurked the fuck out after replacing into a widely scumread scum slot. I attempted to tunnel town, badly.
Game 3 - I was trying to emulate my day 1 town meta and I did it really badly. I believe NSG caught me because some of my early votes lacked reasoning of any kind, whereas if you're anyways decent at the game then my motivations should be pretty cut and dry.
Game 4- That game had post restrictions for everyone, in that you could make a limited number of posts per day. I also replaced in partway through day 1.
Game 5- I was a mason in an open setup, and furthermore replaced in partway through day 1.

I think what Nero is missing is basically the entire point, including that this is a large game for which I was around for the RVS, and not a specifically setup mini that I replaced into

[RadiantCowbells]

At EoD today I will be modkilling adelbert steiner. Gonna make a few more requests for replacements.

[Jingle]

Isn't he doing the same thing here?

Also, yes. I have argued correct play. If your argument is that I would only do that as scum, I'm frankly baffled.

[Aristophanes]

I will be very quick to replace for inactivity

Poof RC

[Nero Cain]

Isn't he doing the same thing here?

Also, yes. I have argued correct play. If your argument is that I would only do that as scum, I'm frankly baffled.

My argument is that you've argued correct play as scum before so why is it dumb to think you'd do the same thing here?

[Nero Cain]

Vecna, who are you town reading?

[Firebringer]

At EoD today I will be modkilling adelbert steiner. Gonna make a few more requests for replacements.

modkilling a confirmed town?

can't we just call this game over with?

god that is depressing\

[Nero Cain]

ask a friend to replace in.

[Nero Cain]

I'm going to ignore Vecna's d1 b/c its pretty much meaningless nonsense though I will say that it's not impossible that he fake claims an PR or is even scum with a PR.

There's not a whole lot that pings me about Vecna. The defense of Titus is the first that comes to mind but him being wrong town is just as possible (and kinda what I expect ) I guess the next thing is how he treats Gamma. Like he sort of freaks out when Fire was going to give Wheme a gun to shoot Gamma and then he starts to argue a Fire/Gamma team.

Jingle v. Vecna gave me a SvS feeling.

Gladiating me is a terrible idea

. Ill explain more about this later if its still required, but I doubt itll come to that.

scum that knows the gladiate on him fails?

Also, still failing to take creature into account Nero. If Mastina is scum, its pretty much confirmed that creature is scum along with her

thought it was weird he dropped this.

[Creature]

At EoD today I will be modkilling adelbert steiner. Gonna make a few more requests for replacements.

Oh nice only town are replacing out.

[Gamma Emerald]

At EoD today I will be modkilling adelbert steiner. Gonna make a few more requests for replacements.

Oh nice only town are replacing out.

Makes sense: scum killed Town WIM and are now waiting out the clock to eliminate everyone they can outside of the standard kills