A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[jjh927]

At EoD today I will be modkilling adelbert steiner. Gonna make a few more requests for replacements.

I would rather the game end than conftown get modkilled

[Vecna]

I'm going to ignore Vecna's d1 b/c its pretty much meaningless nonsense though I will say that it's not impossible that he fake claims an PR or is even scum with a PR.

There's not a whole lot that pings me about Vecna. The defense of Titus is the first that comes to mind but him being wrong town is just as possible (and kinda what I expect ) I guess the next thing is how he treats Gamma. Like he sort of freaks out when Fire was going to give Wheme a gun to shoot Gamma and then he starts to argue a Fire/Gamma team.

Jingle v. Vecna gave me a SvS feeling.

Gladiating me is a terrible idea

. Ill explain more about this later if its still required, but I doubt itll come to that.

scum that knows the gladiate on him fails?

Also, still failing to take creature into account Nero. If Mastina is scum, its pretty much confirmed that creature is scum along with her

thought it was weird he dropped this.

Or maybe......hidden town jailkeeper that does not want to give scum incentive to kill him?

Like if you really cannot fathom why a jailkeeper does not want to get towncleared, while his role will have to die regardless for scum to have any shot at this game, youre really just trying to make the datapoints fit your narrative.

As for the creature thing......from a place without knowledge it was extremely obvious to think that if Mastina was scum she would be a normal gladiator, not a loyal or disloyal one. Because, you know, giving town townclears in the way she did was fucking weird.

[Vecna]

Also, ill try and see if I can get any replacements for that slot as well

[Vecna]

Vecna, who are you town reading?

Im townreading JJH. Thats....pretty much it. I guess I also feel slightly positive'ish about Shoshin.

I have minor minor townreads on Meme and NSG, but that is something that is only based on the parity result claimed (and because I suspect NR is about to scumflip).

Regardless, its hard to think of a scumteam that makes sense here.

[Nero Cain]

Or maybe......hidden town jailkeeper that does not want to give scum incentive to kill him?

Did you say that and d2 or d3? You gotta understand though, in a game where scum are outted during a gladiate saying "oh nope, don't gladiate me" is going to be mildly suspicious. Your d1 PR/3x Jailkeeper doesn't make you confirmed town or anything.

while his role will have to die regardless for scum to have any shot at this game, youre really just trying to make the datapoints fit your narrative.

you are claiming that you are out of shots. You are basically a glorified VT. Why would scum ever shoot you?

[Nero Cain]

while his role will have to die regardless for scum to have any shot at this game

Wait, is this about Fire? ok yeah but I don't understand that as a response to "I guess the next thing is how he treats Gamma. Like he sort of freaks out when Fire was going to give Wheme a gun to shoot Gamma and then he starts to argue a Fire/Gamma team. " Walk me through it.

[Shoshin]

Hey RC, ask Irrelephant to replace Adel please. I think he will be happy to replace a conf town slot and then just sheep me to the free win.

[RadiantCowbells]

A Story Revisited

Votecount 5.274:

Nicorobin (6):

jjh927, Northsidegal, Firebringer

, Vecna, Jingle, Lady Angel
The Meme Men (1):

Porkens

Jingle (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Porkens (0):
Aristophanes (0):
Lady Angel: (0):
Whemestar (0):
Firebringer (0):
Creature (0):
Nero Cain (0):
jjh927 (0):
Vecna (0):
Profii (0):
Northsidegal (0):
Shoshin (0):

Not Voting: Sora, Aristophanes, Nicorobin, Whemestar, Adelbert Steiner, Gamma Emerald, Shiro, Shoshin, Creature, Nero Cain

With 16 alive it's 9 to lynch. (still no mod error in this # despite several people insisting otherwise )

The day will end in (expired on 2018-12-12 19:00:00).

[WhemeStar]

I’m only on 269 but why the nico votes

One of nico and nsg is scum right

So why nico and not nsg

Only reason why people are saying nico is because she was so sure mastina was scum like what??

[northsidegal]

counterpoint: why me

there are what i feel like are pretty decent reasons for nico being scum

what are the reasons for me being scum?

[profii]

Profii replaces Adelbert Steiner.

yo


271 pages... Tell me what I need to know/need to read please

[Shoshin]

I’m only on 269 but why the nico votes

One of nico and nsg is scum right

So why nico and not nsg

Only reason why people are saying nico is because she was so sure mastina was scum like what??

NSG's probably town, so it's likely Nico?

[Shoshin]

Wheme's scum, though. 6758 settles that.

[Creature]

Profii replaces Adelbert Steiner.

yo


271 pages... Tell me what I need to know/need to read please

mastina gladiated you, Firebringer and Chickadee, therefore you're all town (though Chickadee is dead)

[Creature]

what are the reasons for me being scum?

idk, I still can't be confident enough you're town

[Creature]

I like don't want some scum to rack a mislynch before going down.

[profii]

Profii replaces Adelbert Steiner.

yo


271 pages... Tell me what I need to know/need to read please

mastina gladiated you, Firebringer and Chickadee, therefore you're all town (though Chickadee is dead)

Christ

[Jingle]

@profii:

Spoiler: Gamestate

Cool. So, we've got

JJ proves his role
NSG responds to parity guilty
Vizzy flip

Lynch

on the docket for today. Anyone see a reason we shouldn't have this dayphase wrapped up before Monday?

Shosh asked for an update on my reads.

Adelbert Steiner- conf via mastina, probably responsible for no kill last night
Firebringer- conf via mastina

Vecna- Probably responsible for the missing kill N2. Possibly responsible for the missing kill tonight. Probably town.
Creature- Probably town from the derpguilty on mastina.

jjh927- Not scum with NR. Want to see reactions today. Very doubtful imo that 3 of the members of the scumteam have 'I'm gonna fuck with the ability of town to vote' roles, so if his role is confirmed low priority sort.
Porkens- Not scum with NR. Interested to hear reasons he's town independent of that.
NSG- Not scum with NR.
Nicorobin- I dislike the surety of the flip preflip. Reads as TMI to me.

Jingle- Me.

That leaves a probable 2-5 scum in the following:

Shoshin- Not on the lynch table without 3 more scumflips.
The Meme Men
Nero Cain
Gamma Emerald
Aristophanes
Lady Angel- Potentially guiltied by Creature but not realclaiming /role name makes no sense
Whemestar

Gamma is the null line in the last group.

Spoiler: Scumteam composition (Numbers)

I think she's very unlikely to be in the original 5 scum.

The OP changed when she entered. Originally it said there were 5 scum, 16 town and 1 player of indeterminate alignment.

It now says that there are 5 scum 16 town and 2 players of indeterminate alignment.

Thus, Shoshin would have to be a sixth scum player in order to be scum, and Shoshin would have to be scum in order for there to be 7 scum.

Either way, there are at least 3 scum remaining outside of Shoshin, so yes. She is pretty much off the table for the foreseeable future.

And I retracted the likely 3rd party bit as soon as she claimed, so...

Spoiler: Claims

Firebringer - Neighborizor who gives his neighbor the ability to track/watch/voyeur 1 shot each until all used.
Adelbert Steiner - Self Resurrector (No Flip).

Nicorobin - Triplevoter/Tracker, target's choice. (Target's choice is to tell her role, confirmed by mastina/me/Porkens)
Jingle- Yo, been doing the pizza thing. Didn't really hide it.
Vecna- Loud? Jailkeeper with a PR, reflexive fruit vendor (musical flavor IIRC)
Shoshin- Delayed entrance bg
Creature- Flavor Cop (Receives incomplete/useless results)
Meme Men- Pinball Machine Double-voting Autogladiate-winning Gated Parity Cop

Lady Angel -

'Basically VT'

Dreaming God
jjh927- Vote Freezer 1 Shot Deathproof

Invisibility (Cannot have acted last night, was absent for entire phase.)
Aristophanes (Claimed to have not acted last night for one of the reasons given in the PR Roleblocker pm)

Porkens (Refused to give role to NR N1)
Gamma Emerald
Nero Cain
Whemestar
Northsidegal


Abilities we know exist but cannot place:
Roleblocker who causes PRs about the roleblock lasting one day.
Babysitter who appears to be treating their role as a vig shot.

If NicoRobin is town, there is a redirector/busdriver role.

I actually forgot about Adalbert's for a while, but the rest of these are from memory. I may have forgotten somebody.

[Jingle]

Oh, also Mememen claimed to have recieved different alignment when targeting NR and NSG.

[Shoshin]

Tell me what I need to know/need to read please

Me, you, Fire, Creature, NSG, JJH, Pork, and Vecna are town.

Nico & Wheme are scum.

And then there's a bunch of nullish among Lady Angel, Meme, Aristophanes, Gamma, Jingle, and Nero. I'd say best place to start would be sorting these players to figure out the last scum.

[THE MEME MEN]

After jingle's discussion about shos being scum and seeing the posts from shoshin , I can get behind shos being on the lynch table .

I want reads from nicorobin, as she is at 7 votes right now.

Welcome, profi.

-LH

[THE MEME MEN]

Votecount 5.04

jingle (1) : nero
nico (6) : jjh, nsg, creat, fb, jingle, lady

Not Voting: Aristophanes, Nicorobin, Whemestar, profi, Gamma Emerald, Porkens, Shiro, Sora, Vecna, Shoshin

With 17 alive it's 9 to lynch.

The day will end on Dec 11/12

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vecna - 3-shot jk, shos - bg, profi/alde/kuroi - able to resurrect & conf town, firebringer - neighbor & conf town, nicorobin - tracker triplevoter, us - parity cop doublevoter, nero/jingle/LA/nsg/aris/wheme/GE/pork - refused to claim

Nvm I miscounted, still only 6 votes. Point still stands though about nico getting us a reads list.

-LH

[NicoRobin]

And my reads list remains the same.

[Jingle]

I claimed pizza delivery man.

FB has the particulars in case I die somehow.

[Nero Cain]

part of me feels like a scumWheme doesn't go to bat for their dying buddy or maybe that's the whole point, to make Wheme and Nico not look like scum together.