Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[Shoshin]

Also, I was wrong about his "anger" coming mostly from scum. I'd say on balance it's actually more likely to come from town Varsoon, though it definitely shows up in his scum games as well. His scum games vary quite a bit in their tone.

[the worst]

So you're sold he's outside his scum range here?

Irrelephant's response to my wagon should clear him. As scum, he'd express a townread on me but allow a wagon to unfold without working this hard to prevent a mislynch.

Based on my recent games with Irrelephant (TAZ, and the Schadd game you were in), Irrelephant knows that I'm mislynchable even in games where it seems like I'm the most widely townread player (TAZ) and that mislynches sometimes happen quickly without time for a town response (Carmen's lynch in Schadd's game). Knowing this, I doubt scum Irrelephant completely shuts down any possibilty of my mislynch when it's potentially picking up steam (I was the largest wagon when Irrelephant started defending me).

This is an excellent analysis. I'm starting to swing towards town!rrelephant as well and this kind of reverse meta breakdown is giving me the feeling I'm probably right.

Nauci is for sure scum!rrelephant's #1 biggest fearer. I think his scumgame is strong as well but I'm coming to absolutely adore his towngame.

[the worst]

I think the reads are awful, but my brain is dumb.

I'm enjoying seeing this post a lotttt

Can you talk to me about them when you have some time? I'll be here for like 8 to 9 hours allowing for the fact I'm at work and doing odd bits and pieces irl as well

[the worst]

Varsoon, why do you treat the game as if fighting the town read on shoshin or sarcastic shitposting about townreading shoshin are your only options?

Very very much current mood

[the worst]

Also, I was wrong about his "anger" coming mostly from scum. I'd say on balance it's actually more likely to come from town Varsoon, though it definitely shows up in his scum games as well. His scum games vary quite a bit in their tone.

I'll have a look into this as well. I'm not sitting comfortable with him in this game yet, probably a good exercise for overnight when people aren't posting.

[the worst]

I've done it fam
The one thing I couldn't bring myself to do in all of heroes wanted

I CAUGHT UP

[skitter30]

i think you might be a town!duckling

[skitter30]

i also feel like i have a lot of townreads adn not that many scumreads
and i'm wondering if i'm getting bamboozled somewhere

[Shoshin]

Do you have too many townreads? If not, don't worry.

[skitter30]

i think i'm townreading like ~8 people rn
and scumreading like ... 1?

and everyone else being various flavors of null

idk it feels a little weird

[Nauci]

Ducky you're one of the most fun players on the site

You're excellent at combatting cynicism and fatigue and an expert at defusing tense situations by just being you

[Shoshin]

Seems right to me. I'm also at eight.

[the worst]

{tw}
{shoshin, rel}
{creature, keyser, Mitillos, AlmostNancy}
{skitter*, Nauci, Performer}
{NM, teacher, Sausage} = null
{Xtoxm}

intentional omission = Varsoon

this is looking a bit middle heavy.....


*skitter -- you're here because while I am getting better at reading you, your scumrange is super super broad and I think we mutually sort better via real time interactions later in the game

[the worst]

Ducky you're one of the most fun players on the site

You're excellent at combatting cynicism and fatigue and an expert at defusing tense situations by just being you

This is very very similar to how I feel about you
Irl mason buddies?

[skitter30]

*skitter -- you're here because while I am getting better at reading you, your scumrange is super super broad and I think we mutually sort better via real time interactions later in the game

like i said, tfw people think you have a decent scumgame

but fair enough, fair enough

[the worst]

I'm getting more early townpings from you than I did in coalition I think, mostly I think we've probably found the right way to read each other accurately

Feeling existential, I think I've learned a lot from a certain off-site game I played with one of the best town players I've ever encountered. there's so many ways to read different playstyles and probably my greatest weakness as a player is derptunnelling playstyles which are incompatible with mine and forgetting to use relevant tells

[Shoshin]

Where else do you play mafia, the worst?

[Shoshin]

I want to see this game of best town players to learn too!

[skitter30]

I'm getting more early townpings from you than I did in coalition I think, mostly I think we've probably found the right way to read each other accurately

could well be

like in presidents you just felt scummy to me?
and when i figured out it was you in coalition you just didn't

(although i messed up in stack-the-deck but came around eventually)

and here you just feel kinda townie for you

[Nauci]

Performer

Talk me through this one ducky

[skitter30]

I'm getting more early townpings from you than I did in coalition I think, mostly I think we've probably found the right way to read each other accurately

could well be

like in presidents you just felt scummy to me?
and when i figured out it was you in coalition you just didn't

(although i messed up in stack-the-deck but came around eventually)

and here you just feel kinda townie for you

mostly not feeling fake i guess is what it is? idk

[Nauci]

VOTE: Keyser Söze

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[the worst]

Where else do you play mafia, the worst?

Mostly here; bit if MU and a few others sites.
I played one game on MTGSalvation and very much intend to play more there next year.

I'm getting more early townpings from you than I did in coalition I think, mostly I think we've probably found the right way to read each other accurately

could well be

like in presidents you just felt scummy to me?
and when i figured out it was you in coalition you just didn't

(although i messed up in stack-the-deck but came around eventually)

and here you just feel kinda townie for you

Fwiw I think your trajectory in stack the deck was really believable (actually recall yelling that you were town just before my replaceout). I was super super close to burnout and was kinda faking enjoying mafia at all

Performer

Talk me through this one ducky

I will
In short I like how he's flicked from a totally frozen tonality to this kind of jagged audacity; he's starting to feel more natural and it's not a heavy read but I want to see where it's going.

[Mitillos]

@Nauci: Please explain your vote.

[Shoshin]

jagged audacity

I like this description.