Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[AlmostNancy]

Shoshin's managed to skirt by with wins because
1. other players in town have been smart enough to make judgment calls on their own and sheep when needed and
2. other players know when to avoid the awful wagons Shoshin proposes sometimes

This is why I was trying to hit the brakes on people just blindly backing Shoshin everywhere and copping out Shoshin townreads because
1. Shoshin who gets what Shoshin wants will lose games--see TAZ.
2. Scum Shoshin is a relative unknown and could easily replicate this townposting.

True, but she’s obvtown here, both by reads and play. I usually read mindmelding on reads with me as townie, and I’ve been agreeing with most of her reads so far.

[the worst]

Sorry still a little behind. If anyone needs me today yell out, I'll try and get on later. Got like one day to clean my house bc tomorrow's really busy and Monday's my mums B-Day and I'm flying out on Tuesday (Eeekkkk)

[skitter30]

i mean she can be obvtown, doesn't mean i think her read accuracy is particularly great or that she should be lolsheeped or anything

[the worst]

she does have moments of absolutely intense accuracy tho. also lol at scum!shoshin replicating this posting

[AlmostNancy]

i mean she can be obvtown, doesn't mean i think her read accuracy is particularly great or that she should be lolsheeped or anything

Her reads are a helluva a lot better than yours this game.

[the worst]

I don't doubt Shoshin's next scumgame will be better than her last one but just because she doesn't rand scum a lot doesn't mean she's a secret scumgod

be reasonable

[Nauci]

i mean she can be obvtown, doesn't mean i think her read accuracy is particularly great or that she should be lolsheeped or anything

Her reads are a helluva a lot better than yours this game.

I can barely remember what they are

@skitter can you post a reads list?

[skitter30]

i mean, yeah, that

i dont' think scum!her can replicate this really, so she's town basically

like this game looks exactly like her town game

[AlmostNancy]

i mean she can be obvtown,

doesn't mean i think her read accuracy is particularly great

or that she should be lolsheeped or anything

she does have moments of absolutely intense accuracy tho. also lol at scum!shoshin replicating this posting

@The worst, what do you think of this post by Skitter? I’m not a fan.

[AlmostNancy]

I don't doubt Shoshin's next scumgame will be better than her last one but just because she doesn't rand scum a lot doesn't mean she's a secret scumgod

be reasonable

Oh nm, I see you already commented on it.

[AlmostNancy]

i mean, yeah, that

i dont' think scum!her can replicate this really, so she's town basically

like this game looks exactly like her town game

She’s obvtown but we should ignore her reads, is that it?

[skitter30]

i mean she can be obvtown, doesn't mean i think her read accuracy is particularly great or that she should be lolsheeped or anything

Her reads are a helluva a lot better than yours this game.

I can barely remember what they are

@skitter can you post a reads list?

he's specifically referring to the fact that i'm not outright townreading him

something like

{shoshin}
{mitillos, irrel}
{varsoon,tw} - tw maybe on the tier above? not sure exactly
{almostnancy, not_mafia, creature} - weakest tier of townreads, least confident in these
{you, keyser} = null/idk
{saudade, performer}
{xtoxm}
{mew}

[skitter30]

i mean, yeah, that

i dont' think scum!her can replicate this really, so she's town basically

like this game looks exactly like her town game

She’s obvtown but we should ignore her reads, is that it?

yes, please show me where i said we should ignore her reads

i said that i don't think her read accuracy is great and that i don't feel the need to sheep her, not that her reads should be ignored

[skitter30]

i don't think me saying that she shouldn't be lolsheeped is at all the same thing as saying her reads should be ignored and i dislike that you framed what i said that way

[Nauci]

I'm considering bumping mitillos down a little for taking his universal town read and bouncing for almost 2 days now

[AlmostNancy]

i don't think me saying that she shouldn't be lolsheeped is at all the same thing as saying her reads should be ignored and i dislike that you framed what i said that way

i mean, yeah, that

i dont' think scum!her can replicate this really, so she's town basically

like this game looks exactly like her town game

She’s obvtown but we should ignore her reads, is that it?

yes, please show me where i said we should ignore her reads

i said that i don't think her read accuracy is great and that i don't feel the need to sheep her, not that her reads should be ignored

i mean she can be obvtown,

doesn't mean i think her read accuracy is particularly great

or that she should be lolsheeped or anything

It wasn’t the “lolsheeped” part I took issue with and you’re misrepping my post, if you think that.

[skitter30]

i mean he said he'd be busy irl, it's not like he just straight up and disappeared

[Nauci]

not_mafia, creature} - weakest tier of townreads, least confident in these
{you, keyser} = null/idk

I think this might be town skitter30 just because town skitter30 refuses to ever town read town me

[Varsoon]

i mean she can be obvtown, doesn't mean i think her read accuracy is particularly great or that she should be lolsheeped or anything

That's pretty much the conclusion that I've come to.
That said, Shoshin's drive to prod and engage with other players is something that I don't really have right now.
So I've been giving Shoshin the extra leverage of my vote on top of it for things I agree with.

[skitter30]

It wasn’t the “lolsheeped” part I took issue with and you’re misrepping my post, if you think that.

i mean the last time i played with her she tunneled town!varsoon the entirety of day1 and wanted to mislynch town!me in lylo

she can be obvtown and have bad reads; those aren't mutaully exclusive

She’s obvtown but we should ignore her reads, is that it?

i don't get why you're suggesting i said we should ignore her reads because i never said that (ie thinking she can have bad reads != her reads should be ignored)

[skitter30]

i mean he said he'd be busy irl, it's not like he just straight up and disappeared

and he also gave a timeframe for when he should return - monday iirc

[Nauci]

Shoshin's drive to prod and engage with other players

I feel like most of us who have praised her were specific about these qualities so xtoxm's angle made me bristle a lot

[Nauci]

i mean he said he'd be busy irl, it's not like he just straight up and disappeared

and he also gave a timeframe for when he should return - monday iirc

Oops I missed that post

[skitter30]

not_mafia, creature} - weakest tier of townreads, least confident in these
{you, keyser} = null/idk

I think this might be town skitter30 just because town skitter30 refuses to ever town read town me

i mean i've only played with you ... once i think; it's not like i have long history of trying to read you or something. but yeah i have trouble reading you

[AlmostNancy]

not_mafia, creature} - weakest tier of townreads, least confident in these
{you, keyser} = null/idk

I think this might be town skitter30 just because town skitter30 refuses to ever town read town me

Yeah maybe, I just didn’t like their what they said about Shoshin’s reads, it seemed like a bit of a discredit.

Anyway, Xtoxm has conveniently disappeared, now that no one is jumping on his Shoshin is scum lolread.

I still think he could be scum here. That one post about only scum being “in a position” to evaluate his reads, isn’t sitting well with me.