Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[RadiantCowbells]

"hey lets argue about people's confidence in RC as a good player,

aka let's attack the quality of RC's reads

when I supposedly think that he's scum and it is thus completely irrelevant"
"i-its not like I am actually just trying to demean people's confidence in RC because he's now calling me scum or anything you b-bakas!"

[Firebringer]

remind me again what the in game purpose of focusing on rc being a good player or not does to prove he is scum?

[Firebringer]

shit rc beat me to that question.

[RadiantCowbells]

it has nothing to do with in game. what you and I both interpreted as him just being an abject dickwad to piss me off was just him being scum and trying to have it both ways pushing me and attacking my town play in case I push back.
so the good news is that it actually makes him a less morally awful person than he seemed to be because he's just scum and I don't think his motivation was ever explicitly to antagonize me as much as it was the benefits of doing so.

[RadiantCowbells]

and tbh I can respect that particularly since I don't think he actually intended to make me completely not want to play the game.

[Firebringer]

idk man. if he was doing this because he was scum i would think he is more awful. because he knows ur alignment and is being extremely unpleasant in order to win.

i kind of think as scum u have to hold urself to higher standard of not making the game toxic.

[Firebringer]

i am less certain of varsoon scum btw rc.
sorry i think ur in tunnel vision.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm 100% certain and i am gonna do what it takes to get this through so all that resisting it is doing is wasting time.
sorry if you don't like me strongarming things but this is 100% getting strongarmed and you can make that process a lot easier for both me and everyone else.

[Firebringer]

ehhhhhhh......
i am gonna think about it.

[Varsoon]

remind me again what the in game purpose of focusing on rc being a good player or not does to prove he is scum?

That's not really what I'm focused on here, though it is something I'm curious about.
What had happened was that RC had conflated me moving from 1v1'ing him to trying to figure out Nico was 'talking big talk', I think?
Basically, he said there's no point in talking big if you can't back it up.
I wondered why RC themselves does exactly that.
They refuted that they can back it up.
So yeah, it's basically just a petty thing. I am curious if people actually put confidence in RC, though.

That said, it's not where my focus is.
I'd appreciate it if we could stay actually focused where my focus is, which is on Nico.
RC's been actively trying to drown that out and make the game about him, so we've got to stand against that.

What are your thoughts on NicoRobin, FB?

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd appreciate it if we could stay actually focused where my focus is, which is on Nico.
RC's been actively trying to drown that out and make the game about him, so we've got to stand against that.

yes this is totally the approach of town varsoon here.

[RadiantCowbells]

like his 'omg im so protown relative to this guy trying to make the game about him' shtick is bonkers and fake as fuck I'm really not sure how you don't see it Firebringer.

How low is your opinion of Varsoon that you think this is actually how he approaches this situation as town? I'm curious.

[Firebringer]

ur NR push is bad and i agree with RC that it doesn't make any sense to focus on Nico when she has literally done nothing.
it is a vanity push.

and i am not clear on why you want to sort her slot.

[RadiantCowbells]

yes the sudden importance of the nicorobin thing as opposed to the single greatest scum player on MS who is in his opinion obvious scum but who is never gonna die without some big shit being flung at him makes much sense.
i mean it makes tons of sense from scum varsoon who is trying to get the focus of the game off of him and me, it doesn't make sense from town him tho thats for sure.

do I gotta keep doing this? if you agree then why aren't you voting him with me Fire? it's fate, destiny, and everything in between

[Firebringer]

like his 'omg im so protown relative to this guy trying to make the game about him' shtick is bonkers and fake as fuck I'm really not sure how you don't see it Firebringer.

How low is your opinion of Varsoon that you think this is actually how he approaches this situation as town? I'm curious.

dude.

this is going into territory it doesn't need to go into. take a breather.

[RadiantCowbells]

BUT WHAT ABOUT NICOROBIN THO THAT SLOT IS 100% SUPER PRIORITY HAS TO BE DEALT WITH RIGHT THIS MINUTE

RC? best scum player who is literally confirmed scum? nah he can wait gosh he needs to stop making this game about him!!!

[Firebringer]

pls stop.

[RadiantCowbells]

like his 'omg im so protown relative to this guy trying to make the game about him' shtick is bonkers and fake as fuck I'm really not sure how you don't see it Firebringer.

How low is your opinion of Varsoon that you think this is actually how he approaches this situation as town? I'm curious.

dude.

this is going into territory it doesn't need to go into. take a breather.

it's true though. he is objectively obvious scum based on his approach to this slot. to think that his sudden nicorobin bs from someone who has essentially claimed multiple guilties on me comes from town means that you think his town game is well beyond nonsense tier.

pls stop.

this doesn't stop while he's alive.

[Firebringer]

i am trying to talk with varsoon and get an understanding what he is doing.
i already know and understand ur viewpoint here.

[RadiantCowbells]

but you know who has the power to end it? YOU. YOU can lynch scum and get rid of the thing forcing me to go full blown tunnel mode. It's your destiny, Firebringer. Reach out and take it.

[Firebringer]

i have no power here

[RadiantCowbells]

gandalf the grey?

[Varsoon]

ur NR push is bad and i agree with RC that it doesn't make any sense to focus on Nico when she has literally done nothing.
it is a vanity push.

and i am not clear on why you want to sort her slot.

There needs to be pressure there precisely because she HAS done nothing.
I've modded TONS of games Nico's played in. I've played WITH Nico in plenty of games, too.
I've seen Nico go through multiple alt accounts and grow significantly as a player.
Nico not posting and avoiding the game like this is something that will ONLY change if Nico gets pressure.
And in my experience, the ways that Nico responds to pressure makes Nico's alignment very clear.

[Firebringer]

i was literally looking for an alternate gif that would say i have no power here instead of "you".
couldn't find one.

should have photoshopped it.

[RadiantCowbells]

would have been uber worth. ftr Varsoon wanting to sort Nicorobin in the broad sense makes sense given their relationship, what doesn't make sense is his approach to my slot.