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Spoiler: spinefeld

Vote count 1.7

pinturicchio (2):

the worst, NotAJumbleOfNumbers

YyottaCat (2):

Vorkuta, pinturicchio

Vorkuta (1):

CheekyTeeky

NotAJumbleOfNumbers (1):

foodcoats

foodcoats (1):

PvtUrist

CheekyTeeky(1):

u r a person 2

not voting (1):

YyottaCat

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends december 11th at 00:30 central US time; in (expired on 2018-12-12 00:30:00)

mod notes

• deadline is final pending future replacements! thank you to everyone who stepped in !
  
• there is a slight horizontal scroll for me on the page with the broken quotes and honestly i wouldn't have it any other way

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[the worst]

@Vork, weren't you scumreading ID18? why the reset on URAP2 and why do you have 4 scumreads beside him?

we're in a game with 7 townies other than yourself, having twice the number of scumreads than there are scum in the game guarantees you're wrong on at least two reads. Maybe try working out which scumreads you think you're wrong on? You obviously don't have to be right but it's a good exercise in checking yourself since rn you have 4-5 lynches you want but we might only have 3 lynches to work with (max. 4)

[u r a person 2]

@vortuka bro at some point you just gotta trust. You can't win this game alone you need to establish town and reevaluate as needed. that's the game

[the worst]

@vortuka bro at some point you just gotta trust. You can't win this game alone you need to establish town and reevaluate as needed. that's the game

yeeeet!
this post is very 'town irl'

[u r a person 2]

@cheeky I don't understand what you're calling bs on.

Prior to replacing in I read my predecessor's ISO. After replacing in I read most of Pin's ISO because he was the largest wagon. I then moved on to Vortuka because that's where old me left his vote.

Please rephrase any concerns

[CheekyTeeky]

@cheeky I don't understand what you're calling bs on.

Prior to replacing in I read my predecessor's ISO. After replacing in I read most of Pin's ISO because he was the largest wagon. I then moved on to Vortuka because that's where old me left his vote.

Please rephrase any concerns

So you read your predecessor's ISO before asking to rep in?

Why did you say you were only halfway through Vortuka's iso if you'd finished Pint's? Why were you elusive when asked why you townread him?

[u r a person 2]

Of course I read his ISO before replacing in. I didn't want to replace into a scum slot. Is that where you went wrong?

I said I was only half way through his iso because that's how far through his iso I was...??
I wasn't finished with Pin's, I had just moved on to Vor's.

Where is the confusion?

[Vorkuta]

Point by Point reply it is

So you changed your mind on my slot after U2's post?

I don't remember/care which slot you subbed into. Ok fine I looked it up (hard to do on a tablet)= nonny's.
Not really 'changed my mind on the slot' as my only opinion on nonny was 'cool D1 analysis' and 'where's the promised follow up post?1!!?'

so really I gave you an out and you turned it into OMGUSing me.

BAD CHEEKY BREEKI BAD

lso Armchair therapy means what exactly?

This wall of questioning which screams 'let me look for an opportunity!'

Spoiler:

talk about your vote, it will help.

Who is in your lynch pile today? Have you done a readslist?

What were you expecting?

what are your thoughts

I don't understand

I don't understand

So tell me who you think

but how did you come to this conclusion

Are you saying

And if it also applied to how you read TW then why is he a townread while I'm a scumread?

Because
-He did it to newbies that weren't really responding 'to engage with them as an IC'
-He did WIFOM and provided EXPLANATIONS to my ~5 page long arguments explaining his case.
-Your questions have the air of trying to control the narrative, unlike TW's which was genuinely to get people to SAY ANYTHING

You being condescending and warping what I'm saying to suit your obvious agenda pisses me off.

Welcome to mafia. I apologise for what may seem to be like an attack, and I welcome your alternate possibilities and explanations for things.

But is this

:/ only scum can have reads that bad.

not more condescending?

[the worst]

Just one more game theory/IC plug before I need to go back to work. Having solid confident townreads is town indicative almost every time.

Town wins by identifying other townies and outliving scum with them (or lynching the scum straight up) so have a lot to gain by correctly identifying other town. Scum can identify players as town to either defend their buddy or pocket the townie, sure, but that's less likely at random than town townreading other slots so it's never prudent to assuming people are scum for having townreads. On the flip side scum have to be pretty careful with townreads since they know they're gonna have to flip on em to mislynch em later

[the worst]

Actually I genuinely thought the scumteam was {Vorkuta, Urist} earlier in the game but the way you both intuitively swung back against my pressure in unison made me think it was pretty unlikely to be a coordinates backlash, and your mutual townreads on each other felt pretty good.

[u r a person 2]

hi tw

i hope we can be friends

i don't want to read your iso

please don't let that stand between our love

[the worst]

it's fine, I tend to have that effect on people.

[Vorkuta]

@Vork, weren't you scumreading ID18? why the reset on URAP2 and why do you have 4 scumreads beside him?

I took a breather, read my posts, read his posts, and decided that welp we pushed to guy too hard.
I also would like to clarify YET AGAIN

TO reiterate- I'm not voting for ID18 because I think he's scum. I'm voting for him because he doesn't get a free pass with his 8 posts

Now that the game is bustling with activity and no one's trying for a free pass, I feel more confident clearing the slot.

Plus: it's like you guys said

having twice the number of scumreads than there are scum in the game guarantees you're wrong on at least two reads

reevaluate as needed

As for scum
I think there's one in the 'silent but deadly' pair of yyotta and jumble
and one in the 'SE replaced ins' of cheeki and pikachu
I'd like to think that yyotta's not actually scum because she would be having 'mentoring' or 'coaching' sessions from her more experienced player that make her feel 'less all alone' but I can't counterplay silence..

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't remember/care which slot you subbed into. Ok fine I looked it up (hard to do on a tablet)= nonny's.
Not really 'changed my mind on the slot' as my only opinion on nonny was 'cool D1 analysis' and 'where's the promised follow up post?1!!?'

Uh yeah that's changing your mind.

This wall of questioning which screams 'let me look for an opportunity!'

You mean the wall of out of context snippets of my posts? Why is it manipulative rather than sorting?

-Your questions have the air of trying to control the narrative, unlike TW's which was genuinely to get people to SAY ANYTHING

I'm catching up, I have a strong personality. How is this malicious in intent - like actually show me how I'm controlling the narrative - because asking questions and applying pressure gives me unpredictable results right? There is no foundation for this accusation.

not more condescending?

Does it look like I'm talking down to you in that post? I'm saying pretty straight up because I think you can handle it that your reads are not objective and therefore bad and therefore likely to come from scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Welcome to mafia.

Now shit like this to an SE is condescending af.

[the worst]

I kinda think a lynch on Yyotta at the moment would be a compromise/policy lynch, and I do not believe she has a scumbuddy in the list (unless it's me~!)

b o o m

I think every slot has expressed distaste at something silly she's done / expressed willingness to lynch her at some point or another. I'll probably check up and see if anyone's analysis on her feels fake but I realistically just think she's town + not aligned with anyone. She's also disengaged in a strange way that doesn't feel like she wants to play the game so much as just... be here? That doesn't necessarily come from scum, it's just frustrating to respond to. (sorry Yyotta, if you feel this is a misrepresentation let me know and we can help you get in the swing of things)

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not lynching Yyotta today if I haven't already said that.

[the worst]

I'm not sure if you have yet sorry, I need to catch up on a few pages. Good take.

[u r a person 2]

perhaps you two could agree to try and leave personal snipes out. after all you're both persons 2 and we're playing a game. try saying something nice about the other in the same paragraph that you're calling them a dirty lying scumbag. =)

[the worst]

pretty sure foodcoats is also Just Town

[the worst]

URAP2 is your username/energy trying to perpetuate kindness and respect to fellow man

[u r a person 2]

yes but please don't judge me for it.

[the worst]

Ilu <3

[CheekyTeeky]

TW what's your read on me?

[the worst]

I did have nonny as pretty towny, atm like I said I haven't really read much from you yet (sorry :<). How are you reading me?