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Post Post #2025 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:30 pm

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In post 2020, Something_Smart wrote:Oh wait actually.

Xtoxm I really hope you checked Chara, because if she is a traitor she can't be scum that we need eliminated.

UNVOTE:
i assume you found that my claim is true?
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Post Post #2026 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:31 pm

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no, you would have had to find something else since it's Xtoxm who has the rolecop. right.
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Post Post #2027 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:32 pm

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In post 2024, Xtoxm wrote:Why would she be clear if we confirmed her as traitor?
i wouldn't be, but traitors can't win by themselves. i think that was the point.
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Post Post #2028 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:33 pm

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2 deaths is interesting. Anyone want to claim one?
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Post Post #2029 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:35 pm

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i initially thought SS's unvote on Almost was something worth looking into, but i don't know if i really get the sense he would have felt compelled to bus to the point that he would take the way out of that bus that my defense offered.
so more likely he was just listening to me.
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Post Post #2030 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:40 pm

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In post 2023, Xtoxm wrote:I checked BnL. And got the result.

I do wonder if we've deleted the mafia team, more than 2 feels unlikely from random and a lot of mafia roles were discarded as well.
do we know the ratio of town/scum/3p role PMs? i know they weren't all one of each.
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Post Post #2031 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:42 pm

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Right, yeah, she wouldn't be able to kill.

Maybe eragon jammed bnl?

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Post Post #2032 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:52 pm

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Do we consider no lynch and I try to get a result on chara? Or is that a terrible idea

I feel like I just die in that scenario, but we could try
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Post Post #2033 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:54 pm

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flops around
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #2034 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:54 pm

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sooo chara... about almost being town?
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Post Post #2035 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:55 pm

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Unless we have protection alive its wreckless
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Post Post #2036 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:19 pm

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Just the fact that ive survived 2 nights since claiming makes chara not a killing scum, because they dont fear me

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Post Post #2037 (ISO) » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:00 pm

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The fact this was the only 2 kill night and eragon was one of the deaths suggests there are no more killing roles or both eragon and the killing faction targeted bnl.
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Post Post #2038 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:06 am

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In post 2023, Xtoxm wrote:I checked BnL. And got the result.

I do wonder if we've deleted the mafia team, more than 2 feels unlikely from random and a lot of mafia roles were discarded as well.
There's no way this is multiball at this point. So if we got rid of the mafia, then who killed Eragon?
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Post Post #2039 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:08 am

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In post 2031, Xtoxm wrote:Maybe eragon jammed bnl?
Yes obviously he did, since I suggested it and BNL okayed it. I'm annoyed that you checked BNL given this.
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Post Post #2040 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:48 am

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Eragon barely posted yesterday, and the one comment he did make suggested he wasn't along with that idea. I thought he would target someone else given bnl said he had an action. I was suspicious of bnl, didn't expect him to die and really wanted to have something on him if I survived. In hindsight clearly I should have targeted chara. I'll admit I didn't realise the significance of the traitor role, so yeah I'll own that my bad.

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Last time I played this setup there were 2 aliens that didn't use their kill and so no one had reason to suspect they existed until late on. The chances of this setup with the random nature not having multiball or at least some sort of 3p are like really low. And I hear you on the no evidence argument, but our numbers are such that we should consider these possibilities now.
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Post Post #2041 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:01 am

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Ari bring cleared of the previous kill also no longer means anything
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Post Post #2042 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:44 am

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In post 2034, Kokichi Oma wrote:sooo chara... about almost being town?
i was wrong. it happens. you can safely ignore me the next time i argue about it.
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Post Post #2043 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:48 am

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i didn't realize how important it would be to confirm i'm traitor, either. but i didn't really expect Almost to flip scum, so i didn't think it would be so immediately relevant.
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Post Post #2044 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:53 am

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In post 2032, Xtoxm wrote:Do we consider no lynch and I try to get a result on chara? Or is that a terrible idea

I feel like I just die in that scenario, but we could try
no-lynching doesn't seem like a good idea, anyway. so far we only have one mislynch, i don't see why the risk of another would be so great we nl instead of trying to lynch scum.
i say that knowing there's a good reason to want to lynch me, but still.
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Post Post #2045 (ISO) » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:57 am

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ok, looking at the list again there are less people left than i thought. so i do see the argument for nl.
it's possible Almost was the last of his team, but i find it unlikely. he was playing like his team could still win after his death.
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Post Post #2046 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:36 pm

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So I know I am a low quantity poster but like, it's been over a day without posts. I'm gonna read flipped scum later just in case there's a third Mafia. Otherwise probably Chara amd one of the Dolphins are scum. Undecided how strongly I feel about this tho.
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Post Post #2047 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm

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Would rather have pagetop
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Post Post #2048 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:31 pm

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K some analysis of setup first. Considering the flips, there are up to 3 antitown roles left atm. I know that I would choose 3p but not scum, and had neither option. I assume SS also chooses town here so writing that off for now. That leaves Xtox Live, Cheeky Chara, Carkichi Oma, and RCE as possible scum/3P. RCE, if 3p, canive for now. I am happy woth his play and wolling to accept town there. If a dolpgin is scum its Kokichi but I must reread them to say why. Chara and Xtoxm both don't stand out in any way in my memory and thus are light scumreads for me. Like theyre trying to blend in.

Have we done a assclaim yet? I think this is the time to do so.
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Post Post #2049 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:55 pm

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I mean as scum I've now bussed a partner that wasn't going to be the Lynch and hammered my other partner with barely any time left to deadline when he easily could have lived through the night.

I will say I definitely would have chosen 3p if the alignment wasn't a part of the role. SK bulletproof dolphin would have been sick.

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