newbie 1905: pictures from my phone (GAME OGRE !!!)

[pinturicchio]

First of all, the Urist at the begining of the game seemed much more polite and agreeable about people calling him scummy, but now his wagon is playing bad and should feel bad? Everyone has stated why they think you could be scum, disregarding and redirecting is a bad play.

I also noticed that but I think it's NAI. Urist is frustrated with something and their game has gotten a lot more bitter and angry. But that could be a town thing. If Urist is town and really thinks I am a scum pupper master, their frustration would be legit.

His change of playstyle is not only towards you. It's more about the inconsistency of being skeptical about everyone and everything except for the strong town player (context is important: at that time, the only player who was showing towniness and effort was the worst).

[CheekyTeeky]

Never lynch foodcoats regardless of flips. Also never lynch pint.

[CheekyTeeky]

TW is a very likely town and Yyotta too.

[foodcoats]

TW is a very likely town and Yyotta too.

Why Yyotta?

[CheekyTeeky]

Reasons. Volxen put it best in 344

[foodcoats]

@FC- humor me.
Assuming someone hammers and urist flips green- you know we can't just ignore his tunneling at you, plus your post just now is essentially the nail in his coffin.
Even though another player might be doing the hammering, it's pretty much your post that kills him.
Plus as I've mentioned, the hammer will come from Jumble, Yyotta or teh_duck.
So what happens if he flips green?

It also bothers me that you're using really bad logic here. Town make mislynches, it happens. But Urist has never advanced a quality argument against me. Have you been paying attention to my voting? To my reasoning? Why would you suddenly take stock of Urist's garbage attack on me just because they flip town? If Urist is town, Urist is bad town. If Urist flips town, it's a "teachable moment" for Urist. Don't be bad at town.

I need to re-ISO your interactions with Urist. This is the least incisive post I've seen from you almost all game and it comes in to defend Urist by way of a threat that you'll try to wagon me later. That's not like you.

How is your post meant to get me off Urist's wagon? Why would you even post this?

[CheekyTeeky]

I think I messed up the link
.. 344

[PvtUrist]

Alright folks, it's been a pleasure playing with you for the past few days/week.

Honestly, I was not expecting this level of intensity and engagement coming from the game when I first joined. It's left me mentally drained and has shown me just how much there is to learn about things.

Foodcoats, I tunneled you because it's what I've always done. If somebody comes in and I get a bad feeling about them, no matter what those around think or urges to do, I almost always force a confrontation with them. Prehaps that makes me insecure or a coward, I accept that. I just simply couldn't sit by and accept somebody that takes control of things until I've personally cleared them. Guess it's a good idea to remind myself not do things in Mafia the way I do things IRL (shit's generally much simpler in here, fight first, ask questions later )
Regardless of your allignment, I thank you for being a massive headache for the past days and hope that you do just as well in your future games. Need to remind myself how to be more humble and more importantly be able to listen and adapt to people.

I'm curious on how this thread will turn out, whether my tunnel was justified or I was just incorrect, time would tell.

Never lynch foodcoats regardless of flips. Also never lynch pint.

Yeah town's fucked

[CheekyTeeky]

Urist will you claim?

[PvtUrist]

Vanilla Town

as usual, though I wouldn't expect anything I say here will change anything.

[CheekyTeeky]

Well there's always time for one last vote switch

VOTE: Vorkuta

[u r a person 2]

i think we should stay on urist. you just forced a claim out of him ffs

with no one giving intent to hammer, even

[u r a person 2]

what even was that?

[CheekyTeeky]

I keep forgetting this is a newbie game so I need to be more transparent.

PvtUrist claiming VT makes him seem less scummy. In a scenario where we run up scum D1 the optimal play is to claim a PR so they can trade 1 scum for 1 TPR.

Vorkuta's opportunitic shade throwing on foodcoats was gross.

[PvtUrist]

Maybe you can convince the folks to vote me out,

U2

[PvtUrist]

Tbh I really am tired. Haven't been productive over the past few days because I've been obessing too much over this stuff

[CheekyTeeky]

It's fine PvtUrist you can replace out if you're busy but please don't go anti-wincon because you've given up.

[u r a person 2]

it might make him marginally less scummy, but there is also value in having 0 pr equity. im not looking to see half this game forced to claim on d1

[u r a person 2]

It's fine PvtUrist you can replace out if you're busy but please don't go anti-wincon because you've given up.

i second this

[CheekyTeeky]

it might make him marginally less scummy, but there is also value in having 0 pr equity. im not looking to see half this game forced to claim on d1

I'm not planning on getting another claim. This is my last push today.

[PvtUrist]

So it's

cheeky

(SE) and

FC

(diplomat) huh?

With

TW

on leave, town never had a damn chance in hopes of winning. Especially not with the way I played crappily

It's fine PvtUrist you can replace out if you're busy but please don't go anti-wincon because you've given up.

Good point.

schadd_

, I'd like to replaced, if possible. I do very much apologise for being the fourth player in this thread to quit, but I don't realistically see myself going on much further without being entirely burned out or otherwise playing at (as cheeky noted) an anti-wincon "playstyle".

[foodcoats]

I keep forgetting this is a newbie game so I need to be more transparent.

PvtUrist claiming VT makes him seem less scummy. In a scenario where we run up scum D1 the optimal play is to claim a PR so they can trade 1 scum for 1 TPR.

Vorkuta's opportunitic shade throwing on foodcoats was gross.

You mean in order to get a counter-claim? That's a neat play but I would not have thought of that. We're new here Cheeky.

[foodcoats]

Foodcoats, I tunneled you because it's what I've always done. If somebody comes in and I get a bad feeling about them, no matter what those around think or urges to do, I almost always force a confrontation with them. Prehaps that makes me insecure or a coward, I accept that. I just simply couldn't sit by and accept somebody that takes control of things until I've personally cleared them.

I actually specifically answered all your questions this morning. Are you willing to comment on my answers?

[CheekyTeeky]

You're assuming both scum are new then? Also you think differently as scum so it may not be as obvious to new townies. On top of that Urist is also sounding very townie with his premature resignation.

Looking at U2's reaction, I am fairly sure U2/PvtUrist aren't aligned.

[pinturicchio]

Can we just lynch Urist instead of waiting for another replacement? That slot is doomed. I don't agree with you Cheeky, I think Urist would've not claimed PR unless he's playing with someone more experienced, and in this case, I think he's not.

p-edit: I mean he could be with someone experienced, but I don't think you are aligned with him in any situation, the worst is V/LA and Jumble is not around.