Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[RadiantCowbells]

What else is he going to claim when not claiming IC means he just dies and claiming day 2 ic means he just dies on D2

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma stop even talking to him

He doesn't exist

Wot

[RadiantCowbells]

And no Elbirn, in your own phrasing you've been sing varsoons D the hardest all game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't claim IC? Die instantly.

Claim IC with some specific date? Die that day.

Bait town with the idea of being conftown over the next few days but not actually getting disproven until the game is over? Success

[Varsoon]

Well, I think Gamma would've backed off and has no real good reason to stay on my wagon.
Otherwise, I'm not comfortable with the relative absence of many of the slots.
I'd probably be more critical of NK15 and NSG if RC wasn't biasing me hard there right now, too.

P-EDIT:
Oh that's a ton of posts.
And nah, I'm not claiming it's a D7 IC,
I'm claiming it's a delayed IC.
If it doesn't happen by D3 or whenever everyone thinks makes sense, they can lynch me by then.

[Not Known 15]

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells
-won a minigame
-suspicious
-disrupts game

Sheep me!

[RadiantCowbells]

Lelelelel

[Varsoon]

Also we've been over the best friends thing.
I called it out as a likely lie because I knew it was unlikely due to me being IC.

[Not Known 15]

Very likely scumpartner of RC: MariaR.

[RadiantCowbells]

"we've been over"

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok let's just Lynch nk15 at some point that is disgusting

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells
-won a minigame
-suspicious
-disrupts game

Sheep me!

Fucking ew
And honestly I get a gut feeling this is similar to how NK15 played in CoH where I replaced him

[Elbirn]

And his alignment wasss?

[Gamma Emerald]

Scum

[Varsoon]

Congrats on winning the minigame, Elbirn.
I wanted it hard but it'll be k.

[Varsoon]

He initially claimed he had pretty good idea that it'd be before day 3

But then when I said ok so we ignore you til day 3 and if you're not confirmed by then, he went absolutely all in on me.

Doesn't make sense with the role, conftown would be more interested in proving themselves than fighting me. But even in the face of being lynched he refuses because he's not confirmed. Also the odds that Varsoon whose only shot at surviving day 1 is to claim IC and that he ALSO suggested me and Fire were best friends? (Hint: conftown don't assume others are also conftown)

So yeah just Lynch him he's always scum

Your logic makes no sense here:
"He can confirm by Day 3
So we should lynch him Day 1!"

Whereas my logic of:
"I can be confirmed by Day 3,
But we should lynch my highest scumread before then."
Makes plenty sense.

You're completely twisting the fact of the matter.
You proposed treating me like I wasn't even in the game until confirmed, which is pretty scum-motivated.
You're also making the mental jump that, somehow, me going all-in on you is contrary to me being a delayed IC.
It's almost as if how I push or don't push you doesn't influence my role confirming or not.
And you're trying your hardest to lynch an IC and get away with it.

The defense you have of yourself that I could just eat the lynch and you'd be turbo-lynched in response is still committing to a 1 for 1 trade of scum for an IC, which is much better than the alternative if you're scum.

It actually makes absolutely no sense for you to push me like this if you're town
Because like you said
You can just wait until D3.

[RadiantCowbells]

But you proved yourself scum when you didn't go for it so why would I bother giving you til day 3??

[RadiantCowbells]

Chibi played the minigame but hasn't posted for several days despite vote parking me. Wonder if that's a buddy

[RadiantCowbells]

NSG completely flaked when Varsoon got wagoned

Dunno how anyone thinks this is the gamestate in a town Varsoon world

[Elbirn]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: NK15

How about this thing

[RadiantCowbells]

Do you think nk15 is scum with anyone besides Varsoon?

[Elbirn]

Chibi played the minigame but hasn't posted for several days despite vote parking me. Wonder if that's a buddy

NSG completely flaked when Varsoon got wagoned

Dunno how anyone thinks this is the gamestate in a town Varsoon world

These arent points in the "Varsoon is scum" bucket, they're "things worth considering with a varsoon scumflip". As it stands they're useless points if varsoon flips town

[Elbirn]

Do you think nk15 is scum with anyone besides Varsoon?

I dont hypothesize scum teams or preflips. I go by individually scummy people until we have actual scum flips to work with.

I think that his unvote off of Varsoon after his IC claim indicates too much of a willingness to believe, i.e. he had no skepticism because of inside knowledge that his claim must be true because hes town

I know you won't follow that cuz you are in "Varsoon is confscum" mode but yeah that's where I'm at

[Not Known 15]

I think that his unvote off of Varsoon after his IC claim indicates too much of a willingness to believe, i.e. he had no skepticism because of inside knowledge that his claim must be true because hes town

I don't actually highly believe it but it means that we can leave Varsoon for later now that he is committed...
and can go to lynch other people first; precisely: Radiant Cowbells and MariaR.

[Varsoon]

But you proved yourself scum when you didn't go for it so why would I bother giving you til day 3??

I fail to see how this proves me as scum.
If anything, wouldn't scum WANT to be more survivalistic and take you up on that offer?
If anything, wouldn't scum WANT you to continue to be in the game to drive player apathy in the way you have?

I also don't buy your role as a town role whatsoever, ftr.
The fact you kept the firebringer thing hidden and EVEN TOLD FIREBRINGER TO HOLD OFF is incredibly scummy.