Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Varsoon]

I don't think it's all that beyond the scope of town to go
"Oh that guy claimed IC, I'll take it at face value and unvote for now."
That's the play I'd make if someone at L-1 on D1 claimed delayed IC.

[Varsoon]

It's literally something that sorts itself.
/shrug

[Varsoon]

hold off for a bit fire plspls

This is indicator that RC was ready to hard-push a lynch with only 1/3 support instead of 1/2 and claim it's a town thing to do.

The fact that the extra votes were played as some secret but it's clear from here that RC knew is indicator that he's scum.

[Varsoon]

Hiding secret votes like that to leverage on a D1 lynch is a scum strategy.
Depending on RC's flip, we'll also get info if Firebringer was lying, too.
In fact, depending on RC's flip, we get to confirm quite a lot of mechanical things about the setup that could hard-clear or condemn some players.

[Varsoon]

My assumption, though, is that Firebringer really actually did not know and that RC has kept it a secret and was intending to use FB's vote to force a quick hammer that would then reflect poorly on FB.

[Firebringer]

Actually it says it in a pm jjh sent me when he gave me the pt
I was just too stupid to read it

[Varsoon]

Mmm.
And RC didn't tell you anything about the vote in your PT and didn't try to co-ordinate anything there regarding it?

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh yeah I have to keep posting to make sure momentum against Varsoon stays huh

[RadiantCowbells]

hold off for a bit fire plspls

This is indicator that RC was ready to hard-push a lynch with only 1/3 support instead of 1/2 and claim it's a town thing to do.

The fact that the extra votes were played as some secret but it's clear from here that RC knew is indicator that he's scum.

It's an indicator that one of my hoodmates (your scumbuddy) asked me to hold up on lynching you till more content was made. But you already know that!

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think it's all that beyond the scope of town to go
"Oh that guy claimed IC, I'll take it at face value and unvote for now."
That's the play I'd make if someone at L-1 on D1 claimed delayed IC.

It's literally something that sorts itself.
/shrug

See here's the thing it could

But you're trying to hide behind your "IC" status and leverage it not to keep yourself alive but to try to mislynch the strongest town player in the game. Cuz, y'know, if you'd shut the fuck up and die on day 3 when you're not confirmed or (hypothetically) lynch me when you're confirmed via role or nightkill, this wouldn't be necessary. But you're not playing to activate your "IC", you're playing to do as much damage and disruption to town as you possibly can before everyone lynches you for not being conftown

[RadiantCowbells]

My assumption, though, is that Firebringer really actually did not know and that RC has kept it a secret and was intending to use FB's vote to force a quick hammer that would then reflect poorly on FB.

Mmm.
And RC didn't tell you anything about the vote in your PT and didn't try to co-ordinate anything there regarding it?

ITT Varsoon claims that I deceived Firebringer about a role to get a quicklynch on an "IC" and that was supposed to reflect badly on Firebringer and not me. It's almost like he's literally just looking for any reason to call me scum whether or not it makes sense or not. What is Varsoons scum case on me again aside from the fact that I'm lynching a clearly fake "IC before day 7" claim

[RadiantCowbells]

No serious question Elbirn

You've recognized now that from an objective PoV what Varsoon is doing right now is somewhere between fucking stupid and gamethrowing if he's town right

Do you think that Varsoon is fucking stupid

Or do you think that he is scum?

[Firebringer]

Pls don’t accuse of gamthrowing

[Varsoon]

Not really, RC.

Never have I said "Lynch RC because the IC demands it."
Never.

Please stop lying to everyone.

[RadiantCowbells]

"hi my role is LITERALLY CONFIRMABLE, but instead of trying to avoid my mislynch and confirm my role I'm going to self destruct on someone who without the aid of additional scum votes I would literally never get close to lynching because... disruption and setting my partners up?

[RadiantCowbells]

Pls don’t accuse of gamthrowing

I mean he's not gamethorwing he is just scum

[RadiantCowbells]

You are trying to leverage your IC claim

You would have literally no credibility in this game minus the IC claim and you know that as well as I do so ???

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I would go on the record and say that if Varsoon is town he's both incredibly terrible at mafia and gamethrowing here because those are the conditions required to be fulfilled for him to be town, but there's the a lot easier answer that choosing the scum motivated answer at every crossroad is something he did because, you know, his role pm said to

[Varsoon]

Cool, guess I'm incredible terrible at mafia and gamethrowing because I want to get my top scumread lynched.

A+.

[Firebringer]

Even if he was town here I don’t think it’s gamethrowing and I can argue he is scum without mentioning it my dude

[Firebringer]

Cool, guess I'm incredible terrible at mafia and gamethrowing because I want to get my top scumread lynched.

A+.

You been implying a townread on rc for a long time.
You can’t have it both ways.

Asking rc to rethink and reanalyze is not something you would say to top scumread. If you thought maybe he is town you would question him on his thought process, not simply say “rc rethink your reads!”

Why would he rethink if he is scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

But I mean even if we ESTABLISHED

that being Varsoon by definition meant both of those things

Doesn't explain him trying to convince his scumread that he's town
Doesn't explain his awful tone, doesn't explain his strange emotionality
Doesn't explain all the bizarre and scummy phrases that he's used

Cool, guess I'm incredible terrible at mafia and gamethrowing because I want to get my top scumread lynched

Like town would never ever say this here

Town would say that I'm just scum and ignore everything else I said, town doesn't justify themselves to someone who they have claimed is 100% confirmed scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Fire understand that me getting mad and powering through this now will save everyone a lot more pain in the long run

[Firebringer]

I think the rhetoric needs to be softened my dude

[Varsoon]

Cool, guess I'm incredible terrible at mafia and gamethrowing because I want to get my top scumread lynched.

A+.

You been implying a townread on rc for a long time.
You can’t have it both ways.

You people keep saying this.

I literally am not.
I've been OUTRIGHT saying that I am not infallible, and that there's a very slim chance that RC flips town here, and that I am ready for the consequences of what happens if that is the case, but to counterbalance that
I AM VERY CONFIDENT THAT RADIANT COWBELLS IS SCUM.
I HAVE PROVIDED REASON AND REASON AND REASON WHY.
I HAVE STRICKEN DOWN RADIANT COWBELL'S LIES LEFT AND RIGHT.

So please stop lying about this implying townread rubbish.
I'm not asking for it both ways.
Being civil and acknowledging room for error =/= a townread
And you trying to twist it that way, RC, is just you doing anything
ANYTHING
to try to justify lynching a claimed IC.