In post 1245, CheekyTeeky wrote:Since pushing for two additional claims that now makes 4 VT assuming U2 claims the same. We now have a pretty narrow PR pool.
I can't really help that we had a lolclaim from a VT at the start of the day and that Urist decided to claim as well?
what's your suggestion, we just hammer an unclaimed slot? it's {jumble, urap2} here imo. What's the alternative?
I apologize and retract that portion. No offense intended at all @the_worst, just poor phrasing and fast typing on my part.
I rephrase that to 'abused his position of trust'. Duck was like literally the only ally willing to cut Jumble a ton of slack. Duck was Jumble's 'lifeline' and leveraged that to force a claim.
In post 1250, the worst wrote:what's your suggestion, we just hammer an unclaimed slot? it's {jumble, urap2} here imo. What's the alternative?
You're playing silly here - you know you could have asked for a claim after you decided which was scummier and before hammering. I'm not saying hammer them blind and you know I'm not saying that.
In post 1245, CheekyTeeky wrote:Since pushing for two additional claims that now makes 4 VT assuming U2 claims the same. We now have a pretty narrow PR pool.
I can't really help that we had a lolclaim from a VT at the start of the day and that Urist decided to claim as well?
what's your suggestion, we just hammer an unclaimed slot? it's {jumble, urap2} here imo. What's the alternative?
I see a counter argument that it might be better to lynch a claimed vt on day one even if they have higher town equity than an unclaimed slot for the purposes of protecting the integrity of town power roles
I think this is an abstract plan and pulls the value of the game away from dayplay towards nightplay which imo is less valuable from a teaching POV but I can see why it's surprising
In post 1252, CheekyTeeky wrote:It's pretty scummy considering he was trying to claim Jumble is town based on meta. The whole thing has been a farce really.
Have you been reading my iso or did you decide on this position of shade before reading the game? I've been saying Jumble reads closer to his town meta and I'd be pretty surprised given his playstyle/experience etc. if he decided to simultaneously play a really obvious scumgame in Amphibians and correctly imitate his town meta here
I've also been begging people to engage with me on this which you've failed to do. Instead you suddenly appear at EoD calling my play farcical? That's a joke.
I'll gladly take feedback and talk through stuff but I'm not gonna take that I'm hard defending Jumble when all I have been doing is asking people to give him due consideration and work with me on sorting. That is foul shading and 1252 is frankly the most disappointing post in the thread.
I'll admit I forced out a claim of Urist prematurely so I added to the problem. I wouldn't have minded lynching him if we couldve got enough votes. I wouldn't have minded one more claim before hammer but asking for two is reckless.
But then you wanted BOTH claims. Then you single-handedly took power into your own hands and squeezed a claim out of Jumble.
This screams scum/anti-town and IMHO is policy-lynchable.
Oh TW. You're resorting to shading me now? You have been all over the place about Jumble, I'm not using this to shade you I want to know what on earth you're thinking here. A lot of people, myself included suspected Jumble but there's been an awful lot of hedging around his wagon, so much so it's pretty clear he's town from that alone. I think we flip him and move on before we destroy ourselves completely. I'm staunch on my Yyotta and FC townreads so watch for scum pushing the lynchbait slot tomorrow.
But then you wanted BOTH claims. Then you single-handedly took power into your own hands and squeezed a claim out of Jumble.
This screams scum/anti-town and IMHO is policy-lynchable.
nonsense. I refuse to have two competing wagons on:
1) jumble who is more widely scumread I believe, and
2) urap2 who has social plans before the deadline
with a risk of hitting a town power role? you're not listening to why I chose to make that suggestion.
In post 1252, CheekyTeeky wrote:It's pretty scummy considering he was trying to claim Jumble is town based on meta. The whole thing has been a farce really.
-That's an imperative and an order, not a 'suggestion'.
-It was not ON YOU to singlehandedly make that decision. What if we felt like after 5 minutes of discussion we wanted the URAP2 claim more?
-scum!duck wants 2 claims to guarantee a PR NK. URAP2 doesn't budge without L-1 and an intent to hammer. scum!duck concedes with 1 claim.
