Excalibur [Endgame]

Auro · Post Post #2625 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:28 pm

@Gamma: Kokichi did throw out a lot of conflicting information - I recall him saying Maria DID have the sword and also that Maria didn't. From scum POV, the only possibility I can think of for not killing Kokichi is if they thought Varsoon's claim held any weight? This should make it more likely that Varsoon is town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2626 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:31 pm

Varsoon’s claim was that Elsa was Arthur and MariaR had the sword, right?

Auro · Post Post #2627 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:35 pm

Yep, and that he was Merlin.
If Varsoon was scum fakeclaiming, scum would be locked on Kokichi as Merlin.
If Varsoon was town, from scum perspective Jay had a higher likelihood of being Arthur as that was consistent with Varsoon and Kokichi's claims, perhaps?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2628 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:37 pm

Bear in mind Alchemist also claimed Merlin.

Auro · Post Post #2629 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:41 pm

Who's Alchemist?

Dunnstral · Post Post #2630 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:44 pm

I'm guessing he means me

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2631 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:44 pm

Dunnstral
idiot changed his avatar and now I’m mixing him up with someone else

Dunnstral · Post Post #2632 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:45 pm

Except I'm not sure what he's getting at since I also retracted my claim due to Kokichi yesterday

Not sure why I'm being called an idiot here, either

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2633 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:46 pm

I don’t recall you retracting, but in that case things might be a lot easier to work through here

Dunnstral · Post Post #2634 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:07 pm

In post 2102, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2094, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2069, Auro wrote:Oh NVM. Claimed Merlin cos he was gonna be the lunch candidate.
I hardclaim Merlin. Anyone who doesnt retract after this post. needs to be shot @person with the sword.

Arthur has the sword btw.
Yeah ok, I retract

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2635 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:11 pm

In post 2624, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why would scum try to kill Elsa if they thought she was Arthur unless they thought she didn’t have the sword?
Contrary to most time I ask this question, I think Nancy is right, but there’s a lot more to be mined from this.

In post 2575, Varsoon wrote:I figured Kokichi was right and was covering for him.
Since so many people had already claimed Merlin, I was hoping to smokescreen it so our Merlin wouldn't get shot.

I also figured that Kokichi was not lying and I did not want Maria to take the chance at the shot regardless, which is why I said that Elsa was Arthur
.
Was hoping the scum kill would have just been on me or Elsa and that my smokescreen would pay off.
Guess it kinda did anyway since now we've got 2 confirmed town alive and kicking.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2636 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:15 pm

In post 2626, Gamma Emerald wrote:Varsoon’s claim was that Elsa was Arthur and MariaR had the sword, right?

In post 1867, Varsoon wrote:You're full of shit.
I'm Merlin.
Elsa Jay is Arthur.
Maria R has the sword.

I faked hard at grabbing the sword N1 to throw scum off my scent and not kill me N1.

Chara · Post Post #2637 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:50 pm

i agree with Cakez. this game feels like mostly inactive/passive scum. i recall a lot of town fighting town over claims.

also i was going to post a few things from Gamma that felt very suspect until i realized he's town. so that's... well, it's something, at the very least.

Chara · Post Post #2638 (ISO) » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:54 pm

In post 2621, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2618, PenguinPower wrote:I repeat: I haven't done anything. That's a pretty weak reason for a "strong scum read."

So, basically, your entire read on my slot is activity based.
That is a misrep. I already said, I thought Ariane was scummy. THEN I said, that you hadn’t done anything to change my mind on that.

So, I am not scumreading you based on “inactivity”. I obviously am not townreading for that on top of a slot that pinged me, before you even replaced in.

Nancy feels town too. i've given up on trying to read sequentially and am going through sections as they catch my interest.
hypothetical scum Nancy focusing on a town slot whose only meaningful actiom was a vote on her just doesn't seem likely.

PenguinPower · Post Post #2639 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:06 am

In post 2621, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:That is a misrep.

In post 2617, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
She had like 5 posts
and did a hurt for silly reasons.

PenguinPower · Post Post #2640 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:08 am

In post 2620, SirCakez wrote:
In post 2618, PenguinPower wrote:I repeat: I haven't done anything. That's a pretty weak reason for a "strong scum read."

So, basically, your entire read on my slot is activity based.
I don't think that's that weak of a reason
I'm fairly certain myself that at least two scum are in the lurkers
it feels like the whole time has been TvT with the flips and kills we've gotten

I can't argue against your feels, but activity based reads are weak unless player specific imo.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2641 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:31 am

In post 2637, Chara wrote:i agree with Cakez. this game feels like mostly inactive/passive scum. i recall a lot of town fighting town over claims.

also i was going to post a few things from Gamma that felt very suspect until i realized he's town. so that's... well, it's something, at the very least.

Wait what? Why are you certain I'm town now?

Varsoon · Post Post #2642 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:02 am

...isn't it obvious?
It's because Chara's Merlin and you're Arthur.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2643 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:03 am

In post 2625, Auro wrote:@Gamma: Kokichi did throw out a lot of conflicting information - I recall him saying Maria DID have the sword and also that Maria didn't. From scum POV, the only possibility I can think of for not killing Kokichi is if they thought Varsoon's claim held any weight? This should make it more likely that Varsoon is town.

Rofl. What?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2644 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:06 am

I mean he's not that wrong but you were very adamant that it was maria towards the end so that pretty much clear up the remaining haze from you

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2645 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:06 am

I have a small group I dont tr. But seeing if they change my mind. Let's see!

Auro · Post Post #2646 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:10 am

In post 2644, Gamma Emerald wrote:I mean he's not that wrong but you were very adamant that it was maria towards the end so that pretty much clear up the remaining haze from you

In post 2180, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ok Maria has the sword. I wanted to see what everyone's reactions would be. Lynch fire

Misremembered this, yeah nevermind my post.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2647 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:34 am

Maria doesnt have the sword. But shes town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2648 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:19 am

nicetry.jpeg

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2649 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:16 pm

In post 2638, Chara wrote:
In post 2621, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2618, PenguinPower wrote:I repeat: I haven't done anything. That's a pretty weak reason for a "strong scum read."

So, basically, your entire read on my slot is activity based.
That is a misrep. I already said, I thought Ariane was scummy. THEN I said, that you hadn’t done anything to change my mind on that.

So, I am not scumreading you based on “inactivity”. I obviously am not townreading for that on top of a slot that pinged me, before you even replaced in.
Nancy feels town too. i've given up on trying to read sequentially and am going through sections as they catch my interest.
hypothetical scum Nancy focusing on a town slot whose only meaningful actiom was a vote on her just doesn't seem likely.

Yes, I’m town here and despite being scum in Overkill 1, I really did mean the nice things I said to you in that game.