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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:02 am

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In post 1639, Varsoon wrote:I feel like, especially after I swapped to vote Gamma, Gamma 180ing on RC feels manipulative to me especially.
Like to get me to follow back there and drop back into 1v1 mode.
I dunno.
Maybe not?
Is that just me being really cynical?
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:03 am

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^ This especially when you could've vote-landed on Mutant instead.
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:04 am

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two things:
I didn't recall who specifically pushed it so I went with the one name I could remember
and it had more votes anyway
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:15 am

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you never changed your mind on varsoon though. in fact you were one of the big people advocating that he was just super super scum.
but as soon as me and fire are no longer pressuring him (and not necessarily because of reads changes from either of us) you just hop onto the counterwagon to the person you think is scum.
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:17 am

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the amount of whiplash from you going yeah varsoon is obvscum he wasn't like this in game x to oh look at the 'double standard' at a point where, like, 2 people had been here to comment (and implied varsoon TR)
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:20 am

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In post 1653, RadiantCowbells wrote:you never changed your mind on varsoon though. in fact you were one of the big people advocating that he was just super super scum.
but as soon as me and fire are no longer pressuring him (and not necessarily because of reads changes from either of us) you just hop onto the counterwagon to the person you think is scum.
Do I have to write out "oh because of the blowblack I think my previous read is wrong" super-explicitly for that to get through? for fucks sake reading comprehension on this site is terrible.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:22 am

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i mean. it's pretty insane to 180 this hard because of the 'blowback'
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:24 am

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particularly when said blowback doesn't make any sense at all and you keep reiterating things you previously said instead of engaging with me explaining how these situations are totally different
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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:26 am

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That's because you don't know my experience with blowback
In both the thing mafia and transformers mafia I received massive blowback meant to get me to back off of scum. Here I think the push was on town but the underlying theory of scum-driven blowback remains
PEdit: I've already stated I intend to check again to see if I'm wrong given both sides are telling me that? How the fuck is that not engaging with you explaining how it's different?
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:26 am

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...but why do you think that the push was on town if you're jumping the gun off of an experiential read where both times it was on scum? where did the "nicorobin is town" bit come from?
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:27 am

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cuz like, if you're doing this based off of past experience where in both cases they were scum I would expect you to think that nico is scum...?
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:27 am

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and like, if you don't think that Nico is scum for other reasons then why do you think the blowback is the same sort of (scum motivated) blowback?
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:29 am

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I think Nico is town because I think being scum doesn't get turned on by their own team like that
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:34 am

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which scum teammates do you think were turning on her?
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:35 am

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That would be you lol
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:36 am

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but why am I scum?
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:37 am

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also what the fuck you know I have a high proclivity for bussing

you wouldn't clear someone because RC wouldn't turn on their own team like that
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:38 am

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It feels counterintuitive though
why defend NR when Varsoon pushed her then turn on her like that?
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:39 am

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feels like you were simultaneously happy with the 1v1 and are unhappy with nico potentially getting lynched.
It feels counterintuitive though
why defend NR when Varsoon pushed her then turn on her like that?
1) why am I scum
2) how was I defending NR I was pushing Varsoon I didn't say jack about her alignment
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:41 am

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In post 1668, RadiantCowbells wrote:feels like you were simultaneously happy with the 1v1 and are unhappy with nico potentially getting lynched.
It feels counterintuitive though
why defend NR when Varsoon pushed her then turn on her like that?
1) why am I scum
2) how was I defending NR I was pushing Varsoon I didn't say jack about her alignment
1) because the fact Varsoon got pushed and you didn't means there's something that causes that difference. It might be a difference in circumstance but until I get a positive on that I'm going with you being scum.
2) It was a chainsaw defense.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:45 am

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seems a little below my pay grade?
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:46 am

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what seems below your paygrade
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:50 am

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Dunno man

But I'm not really buying that you threw away your entire readset thus far and decided that Varsoon was suddenly town when all indication has been you've townread me and the reason you've claimed for 180ing is awful.

Lot of scum motivation in voting me here though
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:51 am

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In post 1672, RadiantCowbells wrote:Dunno man

But I'm not really buying that you threw away your entire readset thus far and decided that Varsoon was suddenly town when all indication has been you've townread me and the reason you've claimed for 180ing is awful.

Lot of scum motivation in voting me here though

Dunno manBut I'm not really buying that you threw away your entire readset thus far and decided that Varsoon was suddenly town when all indication has been you've townread me and the reason you've claimed for 180ing is awful.Lot of scum motivation in voting me here though
I think... this post is missing a vote.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:52 am

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nevermind the last vote was on Gamma

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