[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

Malakitty · Post Post #225 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:26 pm

Leodanny (L-4)

: Persivul, Thor665, Auro

Lamees (L-5)

: rb, Malakitty

rb (L-5)

: Lamees, Leodanny

DVa (L-5)

: Egix96, NotNova

Auro (L-6)

: Dunnstral

NotNova (L-6)

: DVa

YyottaCat, Something_Smart

I have been in a game with lamee where I read her as scum right off the bat. She hammered me ; I made her scum slip and she went unlynched and won the game

Thor665 · Post Post #226 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:45 pm

In post 216, Auro wrote:When you said "I've already done sorting" I assumed you meant you sorted *after* the previous posts, and that meant your current sorts had information beyond the inferred scumlean on Dunnstral.

You read me incorrectly - but even if you did read me correctly why are you asking for more reads when I'd offered a second already and had apparently decided not to share others if I had them?

In post 218, Auro wrote:In the abscence of a good case, I'd be down to lynch a scummy player even if it's just playstyle -- but scumleaning them early just for that seems like it'd only lead to conf bias.

List me all the games ever with a good case on Day 1.
I expect the number to be x<1
I'll wait.

In post 219, Something_Smart wrote:I think we've beaten this point quite into the ground; I don't think LAMIST is a useful tell and I've stated my reasons why. Let's move on.

What would you like to move on to?

I find concern with you attacking someone else's scumhunting while not committing your own and desire to still explore that point, but I'm open to other topics of conversation if you have them.

YyottaCat · Post Post #227 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:48 pm

Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

Malakitty · Post Post #228 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:50 pm

I don’t like that ^post either

rb · Post Post #229 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:06 pm

In post 227, YyottaCat wrote:Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

wow

rb · Post Post #230 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:06 pm

Dunnstral · Post Post #231 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:14 pm

In post 86, YyottaCat wrote:Oh no I'm late

In post 135, YyottaCat wrote:Reveal the undead by asking more things! Auro, who do you think is most likely to be scum?

In post 227, YyottaCat wrote:Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

Nice iso

VOTE: YyottaCat

Lamees · Post Post #232 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:18 pm

In post 225, Malakitty wrote:I have been in a game with lamee where I read her as scum right off the bat. She hammered me ; I made her scum slip and she went unlynched and won the game

Hammering a town player is not a scum slip lol.

Lamees · Post Post #233 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:27 pm

Anyway, this is def not town malakitty. Town malakitty was less aggressive with pushes and was more prone to sheep other players. (In the game we played together at least). Then again I'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game together.

I also don't see why yyottacat got so much backlash? Weren't you guys going for a lamees lynch? What if yyotta just bought malakitty's case and joined.

Auro · Post Post #234 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:49 pm

In post 226, Thor665 wrote:You read me incorrectly - but even if you did read me correctly why are you asking for more reads when I'd offered a second already and had apparently decided not to share others if I had them?

Because if my read was correct, that information *could* have also been a revision on your prior read on Dunnstral, the only scumread that would still be persistent was Leo.
Your reads help us sort you, as you said -- so if something changed/got added from the previous post, asking you to post them would be useful.

Also, what would be my scum motivation in "looking like I'm efforting", considering I've actually efforted in my scum games, especially when I'm questioning why someone townleaned me for doing that?

Auro · Post Post #235 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:52 pm

In post 226, Thor665 wrote:List me all the games ever with a good case on Day 1.
I expect the number to be x<1
I'll wait.

I had a great case on scum!Volxen in my just-completed Newbie 1900

he was tunneled on me, I kept engaging him on that, showed how his vote shifts were inconsistent and dishonest. I'm actually curious -- I can link you to the posts, tell me why my case (even if correct) was not a "good" one?

Auro · Post Post #236 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:58 pm

I'm not down for a Lamees lynch. She's very easy mislynch bait, often looks scummy early in the game, and I think a deeper study of her scumgame can reveal potential scumtells of hers.

Auro · Post Post #237 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:01 pm

And she's actually posting content, unlike Leodanny/Yvottacat.

rb · Post Post #238 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:39 pm

In post 233, Lamees wrote:Anyway, this is def not town malakitty. Town malakitty was less aggressive with pushes and was more prone to sheep other players. (In the game we played together at least). Then again I'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game together.

I also don't see why yyottacat got so much backlash? Weren't you guys going for a lamees lynch? What if yyotta just bought malakitty's case and joined.

"this is def not town malakitty"
"i'm not really gonna call her scum just off meta/one previous game"

pick one

also the reason you can't see what's wrong with yyotta's post is because you're not town

rb · Post Post #239 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:40 pm

In post 237, Auro wrote:And she's actually posting content, unlike Leodanny/Yvottacat.

wow where is this mystical lamees content imo..

Lamees · Post Post #240 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:50 pm

Let's talk about this post

In post 160, rb wrote:wow back to not taking mafia seriously imo

too hard tbh

You then went back to voting me over DVA. So you even admit your vote on me is not serious lol.

When town is ready to lynch scum (that is rb) let me know.

rb · Post Post #241 (ISO) » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:54 pm

wow so true imo

Egix96 · Post Post #242 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:01 am

In post 205, Leodanny wrote:I don’t really change votes, so I would wait for something more.
In this case though, you are right, I should probably vote someone else.
VOTE: rb

In post 206, Thor665 wrote:This is not thrilling to me.

Not to me either.

Egix96 · Post Post #243 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:08 am

In post 227, YyottaCat wrote:Based on other people, VOTE: lamees, I won't know if it was l-2 or something like that

This seems a bit too naive to me. You don't seem to be weighing up the possibility of Lamees being a townie who's being pushed on by scum.
Also, considering that there's a temporary votecount right at the top of the previous page, it shouldn't be too difficult to go from there and count how many people voted Lamees after that.

Egix96 · Post Post #244 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:15 am

In post 236, Auro wrote:I'm not down for a Lamees lynch. She's very easy mislynch bait, often looks scummy early in the game, and I think a deeper study of her scumgame can reveal potential scumtells of hers.

Yeah, I'm not feeling like Lamees is the right choice either. I'm really not sure what to make of rb though, I'd rather vote elsewhere.

rb · Post Post #245 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:19 am

wow you're either with me or against me imo

rb · Post Post #246 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:20 am

wow sorry that was just a copy paste from my anakin skywaker impressions imo

i would be more okay with people being on the fence if they had a direction that wasn't just being on the fence

Egix96 · Post Post #247 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:23 am

Leo needs more votes I think. Persi, Thor, and Auro all seem like town to me so far, so I don't think scum are pushing a lynch there. Seems like a good choice.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Leodanny

Egix96 · Post Post #248 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:26 am

In post 245, rb wrote:wow you're either with me or against me imo

Yeah that's the thing, it's hard to tell if an interaction is TvS or TvT, especially on D1.

ISO · Post Post #249 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:18 am

In post 222, Malakitty wrote:Lamees I more feel like the posts don’t really have any substance behind it. I didn’t like the first post I quoted more because I felt like it’s I’m here looking like I’m contributing but then not doing anything about it.

Why are you townreading rb then? I feel like his posts don't have much substance either...