Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[RadiantCowbells]

i note that, as i said, my reasons for that read are significantly worse than my reasons for my core townreads

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That's beyond what you're capable of talking about regarding other games and you haven't been posting fluff here, so.

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the idea of maria/nicorobin/gamma interests me, scum really wanting me to use my neighbourhood on scum.
I told gamma I had a neighbourhood ability (the one I used on firebringer) and he immediately suggested Nicorobin because she likes hoods, then Maria an hour later said hey I need to be added to a hood for a quest

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i suppose that's too obvious though.

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rc town
elbirn town
nibbul town
mutant town
chibi should be town

heart still says fire town post reread but not literally never scum I guess

nk15 who even knows. i trend towards thinking he's town
i'll back down on gamma town without confirmation on varsoon's alignment but they're not svs

kokichi and NSG both need to do more

maria/nicorobin are my scumreads

[RadiantCowbells]

meh

with the benefit of a bit of distance i don't really think nsg is scum

[RadiantCowbells]

So you think I lied about being busy and thus threw my future integrity under the bus?

Well then, thanks for thinking so little of me. >.>

If this is truly how you think of me as a person, then don't ever talk to me ever again.

i didn't say that, your statements about irl are obviously true
but that doesn't mean your activity here being lower than elsewhere on site isn't a ?

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Maria would be next on the cutting block for me I guess

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i dunno like that doesn't convince me that nr is town at all but i just don't want to deal with it right now

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what double standard?

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ohhh

:shrug:

if there's a reason for her to be less invested in this game she should say so.

why do you think that makes me scum?

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@Gamma explain in words why you are currently voting me

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Like the situations of Varsoon's vote and my vote are utterly incomparable
Varsoon was called out for it (and by multiple people, not just me) because it didn't seem to mesh with his trajectory up to that point. Whether that's true or not I make no comment on at this time
I am not being called out for it because it matches my trajectory: giving Varsoon to day 3 was something I brought up like literal days ago and I believe I've expressed my dislike of Nicorobin's slot multiple times

your 180 on me is really scummy if I'm not missing something here

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Like I thought the double standard you were referring to was the fact that I, on occasion, favor certain games and that's not usually AI and that would be a genuine point
what you seem to have said is 'oh look RC voted Nicorobin in the exact same way and nothing happened and that's really scummy and nico is town!!!" and thats eww

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varsoon vote on nico came out of nowhere.
there was all this song and dance about not doing the 1v1 anymore so I switched and the target happened to be the same one that varsoon had previously voted.

there's literally no comparison between these instances and you insisting there is doesn't give me good feelings about your alignment gamma

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VOTE: gamma

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you never changed your mind on varsoon though. in fact you were one of the big people advocating that he was just super super scum.
but as soon as me and fire are no longer pressuring him (and not necessarily because of reads changes from either of us) you just hop onto the counterwagon to the person you think is scum.

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the amount of whiplash from you going yeah varsoon is obvscum he wasn't like this in game x to oh look at the 'double standard' at a point where, like, 2 people had been here to comment (and implied varsoon TR)

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i mean. it's pretty insane to 180 this hard because of the 'blowback'

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particularly when said blowback doesn't make any sense at all and you keep reiterating things you previously said instead of engaging with me explaining how these situations are totally different

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...but why do you think that the push was on town if you're jumping the gun off of an experiential read where both times it was on scum? where did the "nicorobin is town" bit come from?

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cuz like, if you're doing this based off of past experience where in both cases they were scum I would expect you to think that nico is scum...?

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and like, if you don't think that Nico is scum for other reasons then why do you think the blowback is the same sort of (scum motivated) blowback?

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which scum teammates do you think were turning on her?

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but why am I scum?

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also what the fuck you know I have a high proclivity for bussing

you wouldn't clear someone because RC wouldn't turn on their own team like that

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feels like you were simultaneously happy with the 1v1 and are unhappy with nico potentially getting lynched.

It feels counterintuitive though
why defend NR when Varsoon pushed her then turn on her like that?

1) why am I scum
2) how was I defending NR I was pushing Varsoon I didn't say jack about her alignment

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seems a little below my pay grade?

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Dunno man

But I'm not really buying that you threw away your entire readset thus far and decided that Varsoon was suddenly town when all indication has been you've townread me and the reason you've claimed for 180ing is awful.

Lot of scum motivation in voting me here though

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I think you expect better from me than to expect me to chainsaw defend my buddies or to expect me to make predictable decisions

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I don't buy the sudden NR townread and I don't buy the sudden me scumread

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Nope not the difference

Difference is Varsoon was in the middle of something, I was a free agent so to speak

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I don't think I'm nitpicking really

I mean I have a fairly small Lynch pool aorn

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Varsoon a few posts before declared me 100% scum
I had a very clear trajectory for why I was no longer voting him

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I mean, sure? But that doesn't really make me townread you

What are your reads on NR, Maria, Kokichi?

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Get thoughts on MariaR please

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It's prolly one of [nk15/gamma]

I kinda think Maria is just scum no matter who with

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UNVOTE:

I want to go to bed and don't want a Lynch before morning

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Presumably

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He didn't derp hammer because he didn't actually meet the requirements for the triplevote

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And I wasn't gonna give him a chance to figure it out

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You weren't tsundere at me you didn't mention my name

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VOTE: gamma
Is a rudie pants I wouldn’t vote him ever except now and it’s not like I am sheeping him baka

"Gamma is a rudie pants I wouldn't vote him ever except now and it's not like I am sheeping him baka"

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Why should the nod count it?

Is it because scum is you/Maria/nk15?

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Like u literally did not meet requirements

If a vote autocorrected to VOTE: it wouldn't be counted

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If you wanted to scum quickhammer you should have been more careful next tine

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Right

Elbirn wanna use that second Lynch on fire if the first one is used?

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Fire has a history of quickhammering town as scum ftr

And Maria is just transparently scum by her short iso

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Bussing Maria is just protocol

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Right

Elbirn wanna use that second Lynch on fire if the first one is used?

Mmmm fires a tougher sell for me cuz I think hes just a silly willy walnut head

We'll also need more support there in all likelihood

In fact I'm just gonna stop being cute about it, I'm talking about literally a second lynch, not a vig shot or anything. My minigame role gives me a 1 per game use of idkwhattocallit, the game thread stays open at night and we can lynch again.

I feel like using it asap because reasons

This is exactly the kind of play that scum fire does

[RadiantCowbells]

Use it tonight

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Fire scum always milks his reputation for doing ridiculous shit to get away with doing stuff like that as scum. Like I'd rather Lynch Maria because, like, obvscum but fire is scum >80% of the time off of the hammer and the way he's talking to me about it after the fact.

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Note that I stand by that really shouldnt be counted given it didn't actually meet the requirements but presumably ad the actual poster of the vote Firebringer will get it to count

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I think he will flip town yes

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No

I literally just think you scum hammered him and you wouldn't have scum hammered scum so

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Or at least, tried to scum hammer him

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Ok I mean

You'd scum hammer like someone

Like Maria or someone you know

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I want to hear from nsg before eod

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I want nsg back

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No it's hi how are you officer

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I am good

Did you ever play undertale

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You should it's good

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I say it out of context constantly when I'm sober

Goml

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I really want NSG to have a chance to post today

No hammers no L1 please

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starting to feel like gamma is town

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getting flashbacks to times he has had equally awful read transitions and such

kinda happy to vote maria but still want to wait for nsg

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I went from

Yeah fire is lockscum gamma was town
meh who even knows
Ok yeah this is a good vote

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Still waiting for Northside and tired irl

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Ok

But you probably rolled scum twice in a row so clearly the feelings aren't mutual

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I mean twice in a row with me

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I just wanna kill maria

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In case it needs to be said, 0% grudge vote 100% read

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um

hmm

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will you join me in my righteous crusade if i vote there

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i don't rly townread you firebringer

i either see posts that make me see red and have this determination to powerlynch you to kentucky and the quickhammer is pretty close to that

or I don't. and at some point i just assume you're town. which is what i was doing before the quickhammer and you wanting the quickhammer to be maintained and everything after/around that

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i would have been floored if you flipped town in the LLD game. this game i wouldn't be surprised if you flipped either way. hence me not voting you right now.

but I'm explicitly not townreading you.

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VOTE: Maria

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i'm town.

i think that nk15 is scum with maria and that their entire "but we're lynching maria tomorrow" thing that they've been doing all game was a tmi scumread

Okay I’m gonna state that in plain English because that probably makes no sense to anyone else
I think the exchange between them felt a little too austere, but I might just be reacting poorly because I distrust NK15

lol

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VOTE: Varsoon

alright let's kill him.

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just kill him. he's scum. the only world where he was town was one where he thought I was town but was tunneling me out of some sort of policy lynch or narcissistic injury anyway.
if he's still doing this he's never town aligned. elbirn might have been right about the lyncher, but failing that he's just scum.

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the single shortcoming in my case on Varsoon is that if he was so enraged by my push on him that he decided to all in on taking me down regardless of the fact that he townread me (displayed by his posting) he could have fakeclaimed IC and gone all in to try to take me down because it would have been 'worth it' to him in some form. that was the circumstance I was concerned about that led me to be willing to not kill him today. that circumstance doesn't mesh with his continued attempts to attack me.

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you commented negatively on the post where I created my hood with firebringer and are thus aware that it came before and not after Maria's claim.

guys, I'm town I swear to god and I don't need to deal with this shit and Varsoon's scum anyway. Please show me some mercy and get rid of him today

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both of these hoods were set up before maria made post #19. but please, keep looking for new angles to call me scum. i'm transparently town.

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now that we've ruled out the only instance in which varsoon was town, i'm no longer scumreading you, so.

probably some combination varsoon/nico/maria/nk15

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Fire triplevote varsoon please.

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Gamma now that we've established that none of the reasons that you 180ed on me and varsoon made sense you should vote Varsoon because you were originally scumreading him, no?

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"why'd I let you go along with" varsoon never asked any of these questions. town varsoon would be competent enough to query things rather than call me scum without knowing answers.
this is scum varsoon or at the very least this is lyncher varsoon.

I am annoyed RC.

I am pretty annoyed too.

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you're not a threat to me. everyone in this game knows that town!you doesn't pose a threat to scum!me. i'd keep you to endgame and lynch you in lylo to make you suffer for being annoying.

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honestly at this point I think Elbirn's lyncher speculation was right on the money because I can see Varsoon submitting as one of his roles "person who literally hates radiantcowbells"

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I'm not sure what you expect differently from me. I'm trying to sort your alignment to the best of my ability. I'm sorry if I'm not as good at it as you want me to be?

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it's not abusive. i am not required to protect your fragile ego as part of my posting when I'm stating something that literally any person in this game besides you would recognize as a fact.

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dunno if you went in a room with nadal and federer and someone said that you were the worst tennis player in that room would you be offended? seems to me like you would.

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You've instigated literally everything that's gone on between us.

Don't claim the moral high ground.

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I hooded you because I knew you had a bad time in the dance game with me not talking to you so I added you

You are literally the last person that I'd add in the hopes of you blindly sheeping me

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Maybe second last given MariaR is also in this game

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Your ability or lack thereof to threaten me as scum is a game specific term.

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You come into this game with me

Go out of your way repeatedly to try to instigated a fight

Absolutely lose your shit and rage because I rebuked a whole bunch of awful statements that you made about me personally

I play in a way that I see as anti town wincon to avoid your shit and you still come back and try to pull this again

I understand that given my reads you probably feel pretty desperate to get rid of me but that doesn't justify your actions.

When I and Chesskid were in this situation I threw the game and let town win. You've chosen to throw everything against me. So you talk about this from a moral perspective, you've failed tests that I made in higher stakes situations so idk!

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I make a point to people who think they are a threat to me that they're not so they don't continually act uppity towards you. It is in fact not personal it's how I dealt with Mathdino and many others.

You are not special to me and it's your ego telling you that you are

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And to say that everyone in this game recognizes that as the foremost scum player on the site you aren't a huge threat to me is again, simple statement of fact. But continue to act like the victim to try to appeal to people. I think you'll find that people aren't so easily deceived and I think you'll find that some of your friendships will be jeopardized by what you've done this game because in my entire career of acting badly I have never done what you have done this game.

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You brought them in and played the victim when you got in return far gentler comments than the ones you dished out

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Sure, you stop pretending that clearly game related content is personal attacks on you and I won't discuss your own history of personal attacks. Deal?

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I haven't personally attacked you in a long time.

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Ok

I don't think that's that bad of a personal attack or maybe after the barrage of shit he's said to me I'm desensitized to something that mundane.

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Same thing I've been saying for days by the way

If Varsoon is town who is going to be confirmed why does he not wait to be confirmed and use that confirmation to lynch me?

Why does it have to be today unless he knows he will never be conftown and every day phase that he has to make an excuse for not being confirmed will make his position weaker and weaker?

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I never gave a fuck about shit you said

I cared about your actions and what they say about your alignment

Because I would expect you to be awful to me regardless of alignment

I think you would even be likely to try to policy Lynch me regardless of alignment

But I don't think you dredge this up right now as town

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You, yourself, are the one who's been insisting that my IC could be very delayed, as a reason to lynch me,
Which indicates that this isn't a defense that town-you would ever take as reasonable.

No I said that since your IC is delayed and you're probably scum but can be dealt with later, that we deal with it later or kill you if you refuse because you have no town motivation to refuse.

When the entire game has agreed to lynch me if you flip town and to leave you alive til much later you have no motivation to do this as town.

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You yourself said that you were pretty likely to be conftown by day 3

You're not playing like that statement was anything other than bullshit

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And Firebringer

When I ask you to vote Varsoon

I'm not asking as RadiantCowbells the mafia player

I'm asking as RadiantCowbells the person

And in a situation like this I would do the same for you

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You yourself said that you were pretty likely to be conftown by day 3

You're not playing like that statement was anything other than bullshit

You're the only one who has ever played like it hasn't been the case.

You're the one trying to all in me when I'm guaranteed to die on day 3 if you're actually gonna be IC

All you had to do was wait till nights pass and I'm dead

Funny how you are insistent on making that happen before days start passing and people question your claim more and more

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If you think that's an out of game appeal

You think that I'm town

So why are you voting me?

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It's almost like you're scum and don't actually think I'm scum!

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It's almost like town scumreading someone doesn't knee jerk accuse them of essentially trust telling themselves town!

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The RC I know would re-evaluate and come to a proper read on actual scum instead of insisting on a contentless death-tunnel on town.

Yeah this post makes it fairly clear that I'd expect town RC to re-evaluate and Scum RC to continue to death-tunnel me
Then RC insisted on doing that so
Dude's scum.

It's almost like

I gave magical town you an opportunity to live to confirm yourself as town when I could have easily lynched you

It's almost like there's no scum motivation in anything I do but you keep calling me scum using cases that make less and less sense

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If you think that's an out of game appeal

You think that I'm town

Not really.
I think you're scum willing to do anything (even provoke a ban) to get me lynched.

Wow weird I would have thought I wasn't the person who played this game in a manner to eat a ban

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Oh yeah I wasn't good to know

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If you think that's an out of game appeal

You think that I'm town

So why are you voting me?

This doesn't logically follow, a scum-rc still has a feud with varsoon...

RC I had a lot easier of a time working with you when you and varsoon werent at each others throats. Can ya put that boy on ignore and look elsewhere? I still dont grasp your mariaR scumread and I dont know that you've ever elaborated on it, can we go there?

I gave him his chance. I'm not letting him live.

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Elbirn you know full well I tried to avoid this but I'm finishing it.

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I would ask you to pop in as well

And the idea that I as scum would do that in this situation is laughable

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Like I personally appeal on occasion as scum.

But this is well beyond plausibly thinking that I'm scum.

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You provoked me repeatedly

Your provocations not being met with the kind of deference you hoped for made you freak out and get banned

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You first personally attacked me on page 1 of this game.

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But sure, I don't care. I don't care about you enough for it to affect me. I just want your scum ass lynched.

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Say what you think you need to say man

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There's a better way to play scum than this.

I sincerely hope you're not imitating your perception of my scum game.

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I meant the wall, my bad. I vaguely remembered it as post 16 then I realized my post that he quoted was post 16

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If NSG flakes out then MariaR

Maaaybe nk15

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I have said absolutely nothing in terms of an explanation for MariaR iirc. I can try to case it but it's mostly gut feelings and I think that it is healthier for me to focus on bringing Varsoon down since this game is already taking a toll on me without having to fight on multiple fronts.

NSG I think I knee jerk called her scum because I was frustrated with her play and reading her posts I don't scumread her anymore

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Firebringer hasn't voted him (yet? but idk if he will)

I don't agree with you that I was the root of the toxicity mutant

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I'll read his modifiers when the mod posts the flip

Note that most of the modifiers worth including (ninja/strongman) are scum focused

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"wow this role if scum would let scum either basically have majority on their own or essentially require them to only pocket one town for majority, this role seems very balanced"

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"hi I'm jjh927 I look forward to answering a fuck ton of hatemail for giving the best scum player on the site the ability to chain force lynches by pocketing only one player"

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But that isn't going to change your read on me because you're not really reading me, you're just pointing and yelling scum in the hopes that you can win by volume.

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well if we aren't lynching anyone, when is the next mini game

@mod

do a luck based one u coward

Vote Varsoon

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I tried to postpone it. Varsoon reinstigated it.

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In a way that, have I mentioned, doesn't make sense with his claimed role? Why does a supposedly "likely day 3 IC" pick a fight on day one highly likely to get them mis?lynched when most of the game had already agreed to lynch me if he flipped IC?

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We're long past the point of lynching anyone else.

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Like I know that when you get to L2 you're gonna make a show of jumping off again and portraying yourself as the reasonable one but nah.

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As scum, RC saying 'Just lynch me when Varsoon confirms' makes plenty of sense if he thinks my IC confirm won't even come out during the rest of the game.

How do I know when your "ic confirmation" is gonna come out?

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I don't know your supposed role.

You're saying I'm scum because I somehow knew you weren't gonna be confirmed till day 7 but how was I possibly supposed to deduce that little bit of info? Unless you're just scum who needs to conveniently avoid the fact that I set myself down an awful trajectory if you were telling the truth about being likely conftown on D2 or D3.

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Also claiming that you're playing terribly and that justifies making terrible decisions on an in game basis is not a refutation.

So yeah it's basically scum PoV RC every time.

If you stretch really hard you've argued that it's maybe plausible that I am scum. Nothing justifies the juxtaposition between literally accusing me of trust telling and still scumreading me.

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Town RC sees that claim, goes "Oh cool if it's not confirmed or dead by LYLO I can lynch it with fire" and then proceeds to scumhunt elsewhere
Easy.

Huh who was it talking about not knowing how other people play and not using that to justify cases

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Huh

It's almost like I wouldn't want to continue playing in a game where an awful player like you was conftown so I'd just get lynched and stop having to play it.

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It's almost like you're literally saying that I'm scum for not assuming that you actually meant you were literally conftown on day7 while also saying that I'm scum doing exactly that to predict getting a free lunch on you on day 3 when I could have just gotten it today but apparently delaying it to day 3 and giving you the chance of being conftown is what I would do as scum, who knew.

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No personal attacks made. You are an awful player. That is talking about your abilities as a mafia player. Getting in over your head trying to 1v1 me is an awful decision. I say nothing about you outside of this game.

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Like unless you're lyncher and actually had no choice then this is an awful play and that's not a personal attack.

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If you think I'm stating facts as opposed to hyperbole then that means you think I'm town so you shoupdnt be voting me

As I said I refuse to give your play the satisfaction of replacing out and I don't replace out for scum players in general either.

But I would certainly have not continued the game with conftown!yoi

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You're dying today and it's not being stopped.

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I offered you a compromise that I didn't have to make. You spat in my face then started accusing me of being toxic. You are still alive because I showed mercy and you are not receiving any more from me.

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You started the fight again then when the winds didn't blow your way you backed off. Same as last time. There won't be a third.

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And that's not even an accurate assessment of the last time because it treats it like it was your decision and not mine.

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If I'm going to 100% wiggle out on day 3
Why would you think I won't wiggle out on day 1

Your logic is not at all consistent in anything except attempting to extract Callie from your slot before being confirmed

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Why do I do this? Why do you do this?

You could have literally done anything with this game

But you chose to try to prove yourself better than me by trying to mislynch me. Hint: you're not. And as long as this is how you see mafia you will never be.

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That's exactly what you're doing here.
You're trying to propose every reason and then some for why you couldn't be scum once I flip, too.

At no point did I make a single argument in favor of myself being town until the ceasefire because I had no intention of avoiding the lynch if I was wrong

I'm locking myself town now to make sure you die.

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Before I was mad. I'm not mad anymore. I'm not tired anymore.

I'm going to kill you and it's not something that can be stopped.

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I caught you page 6 and you've been wiggling ever since.

Why do you keep making this an ego thing?
Where, in the entire game, have I ever indicated that lynching you makes me better than you?

You clearly don't make this play because you think it's the right one, and the most reasonable explanation is that you are doing it for the ego points. "I mislynched town RC see he's not actually that good a townie." Don't worry, a lot of people have tried it, I won't especially hold it against you. But next time, don't.

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That's not going to stop anything

I know that you're scum

You can make whatever shitty reason you want to try to back out of this now that your support is all dead but you don't survive today.

[RadiantCowbells]

Of all the things that Varsoon ought to be townreading me for in this game

This is never the point at which town!Varsoon changes his mind

[RadiantCowbells]

Intent to hammer like I'm going to catch another vote for the remainder of the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like he knows he's just gonna get lunched at this point
No one has any interest in voting me
So he unvotes in the hopes that all of YOU are going to try to make me give him another stay of execution that he doesn't deserve

This has gone on long enough. Kill it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Itt Varsoon constructs another absurd dichotomy whereby me/fire has at least one scum based on 0 content actually in the game

[RadiantCowbells]

Itt we all let another extremely scummy thing go by from Varsoon without voting him because of concerns for the toxicity of the game without removing the source of it

[RadiantCowbells]

Fire u know that me/Varsoon will go away when you lynch him AND I'll even throw in a scum flip absolutely free just pay shipping and handling

[RadiantCowbells]

Like literally this is the third time

That Varsoon has invented a bunch of stories about how things happened without actually trying to figure out what happened

Deciding that they happened in the way that makes me look the absolute worst

And then having to be corrected

[RadiantCowbells]

Do u rlu think town Varsoon invents stories about interactions he wasn't a part of to call someone scum

[RadiantCowbells]

First one was the original neighbourhood discussion
Then the omg why didn't Maria get neighbourized discussion
Now there's this weird 50/50 in me and Firebringer thing

Are these really the products of a town player legitimately trying to sort scum or are they the product of someone with an agenda who is looking for excuses to advance it

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't you think town Varsoon would, like, ask about these things before inventing conclusions and calling people scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

We have a second lynch today and the faster we kill Varsoon the faster this game gets to actually move on from it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Dunno

Like I feel the sheer disingenuity and sheer lack of attempt to state anything factual should confirm him as scum but like people are just slow about lynching him no matter what he does

Is it possible that Varsoon is just really obvious scum and you haven't seen it because you aren't reading?

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't think it's good for the game to leave him alive that long

I'll get other ppl I guess

[RadiantCowbells]

He's clearly banking on making town hate the game and it seems to be working so sooner we get rid of him, happier everyone is

[RadiantCowbells]

NSG no longer convinced is scum, need further data points
NicoRobin vaguely leaning scum but no strong read there

I think nk15 push in you might actually be scum, first impulse was that he was TMI reading you scum but who knows maybe he's just scum scum

Fire town
Nibbul town
Mitant town
Me town
Elbirn town
Gamma probtown

Chibi might actually be scum just vote parking me to help Varsoon without having to actually take a stand

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean she's literally the 1 person who took the PoV that Varsoon was townies than I was and I find it real hard to believe that's an actual perspective particularly considering similarities between this game and FGs fane from my play

[RadiantCowbells]

Anyway I'm intending to get a bead on NSG then hard Poe the game from there when she shows up

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't think fire relates to me in the way that he currently is as scum

Don't think gamma makes sense as scum based on a bunch of associatives bur that one could be wrong I guess

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry I submitted the Firebringer dance at like day start

[RadiantCowbells]

It's almost like you're saying I wanted the 1v1 as a smokescreen but it was me who actually said we should postpone it to D3 and see whether you get confirmed or not but then you chose to come back and push me and create the 1v1

[RadiantCowbells]

It's almost like you're saying whatever you think sounds good and makes me sound bad regardless of it's relation to reality

[RadiantCowbells]

It's almost like if you were town you would have been dead eons ago but scum are willing to ruin this game for all players involved by propping your slot up when by all rights you should be dead and you have no hope of surviving multiple day phases. Like come on guys learn to bus.

[RadiantCowbells]

A.B.B

Always be bussing

[RadiantCowbells]

If I was Varsoons teammate

Regardless of whatever garbage he's saying in scum chat about how he has a chance of getting me lynched or surviving

I would power bus him. I would claim a daycop on him. That's the kind of tough love that playing scum needs

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's roleplay a bit

I'll be you, Varsoons scumbuddy
You be me

"Alright I have a day cop and I'm sick if this garbage so I'm gonna use it on Varsoon"

[RadiantCowbells]

"I have a fucking guilty on Varsoon powerlynch his ass"

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm gonna allow people who aren't Varsoons scumbuddy to play the part of RC in this production. Don't be shy

[RadiantCowbells]

Sigh

Kids just don't care about theatre anymore.

[RadiantCowbells]

A really large part of me is tempted to carry on the multipost even though I don't really have all that much to say until people get back

[RadiantCowbells]

that does not sound like an rc thing to say when someone guilties my top scumread

you lose! you get nothing! good day sir.

[RadiantCowbells]

[RadiantCowbells]

no

[RadiantCowbells]

aiding and abetting varsoon's play isn't compromising

[RadiantCowbells]

there's a shit ton of town players who are never going to vote with you. you are never going to lynch scum today if nk15 is scum. all you'll do is split the votes.

at some point you have to vote your friend regardless of them being your friend.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm sorry that he rolled scum and went down this path but the options here are 1) he's going to end up dying 2) all scum pile up on a mislynch 3) no lynch. there's no paths to lynching non-him scum while he's alive.

[RadiantCowbells]

what you're doing is the mafia equivalent of the british government trying to compromise with the nazi party and make concessions. we tried concessions, its time for war.

[RadiantCowbells]

we gave him his chance.

[RadiantCowbells]

not in terms of comparing varsoon to nazis. in terms of how that kind of concessions works.

[RadiantCowbells]

nibbui time to vote varsoon

[RadiantCowbells]

you should vote varsoon then.

[RadiantCowbells]

you're scum because you haven't voted varsoon

[RadiantCowbells]

i think that it's part of a long pattern of him saying things that indicate me to be town while claiming to scumread me

[RadiantCowbells]

See I continue to be stuck on "If Varsoon == scum, he claimed a role that guarantees his own death just for the sake of trying to tell RC to go fuck himself, which doesnt even make sense because even if he were IC that says nothing about RC's alignment"

Where is the motivation for the claim? What does it accomplish?

he was going to die anyway, he just made the claim to survive a bit longer

[RadiantCowbells]

realize that he claimed when he was under serious pressure of being lynched