Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Nibbui]

You're already using straw man. I already said that the claim had some probability of having a IC power there with the flavors. He still did bad by fakeclaiming that it was a certainty.

However that's not even the point Radiant.

You were already set on lynching him even before the goddamn claim and that's of course why he got to L-1 all worked up.

Also, it wasn't a policy lynch, it was probably biased, but the fact you use straw man constantly (and you're using it right now), is a decent justification for a scum read. He just looked way worse with the claim.

But like I said, things were already heated up even BEFORE the claim.

[RadiantCowbells]

there's a difference between a universe where I want to lynch varsoon because he's being fucking annoying and one where I think that I have him dead to rights. I thought that I had him dead to rights.

[RadiantCowbells]

I respect my assertions that someone is always scum more than to do this off of policy. I can't play around what Varsoon did. I had the right to scumread him.

Whatever, I'm done. Vote me if it does something for you.

[Nibbui]

Honestly? This is my take on the story:

Varsoon was looking down on Radiant in the first pages, Radiant got pissed and went to 1v1 to lynch Varsoon and rub it on his face just like Varsoon was actually all kinda smug in the begin.

and I think this comes from scum you more often. Sorry if I'm wrong but your constantly personal attacks against Varsoon back there (and his to you) doesn't help me to change my mind at all, in fact it even somewhat support it.

Also, the fact you were talking you didn't care and would take the lynch today if Varsoon flipped town but now is like "voting for me is stupid" just looks even scummier.

You can say it's stupid but you were the one to bring it in the first place.

[Elbirn]

I say again, this isnt productive. We've got two days to figure out another lynch.

I'm looking NK15/Nico. I feel this opportunity we have here needs to be used like a vig shot, and take out a lurky nullscum

[RadiantCowbells]

I said that there was a transition from not trying to obvtown to trying to obvtown

You have literally no idea what my scum game would or would not look like

I would suggest not making assumptions

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I literally said that I was gonna just eat the lunch until he turned on me again after the armistice then I decided fuck it he needs death. But if your paranoia says that you gotta scumread me then you gotta scumread me

[Nibbui]

I said that there was a transition from not trying to obvtown to trying to obvtown

You have literally no idea what my scum game would or would not look like

I would suggest not making assumptions

It's not even about your scum game. It's about your personality.

If you're scum and someone is looking down on you in that game, even more someone you have a past grudge, you're probably going to try to lynch his ass.

But yeah, I won't get worked up about it. Maybe you're not scum, but in my opinion my point about your mindset still stands.

I say again, this isnt productive. We've got two days to figure out another lynch.

I'm looking NK15/Nico. I feel this opportunity we have here needs to be used like a vig shot, and take out a lurky nullscum

Hmmm...

Day 1 as a whole wasn't productive I guess.

I dunno about NK15 though, there's better lynches I would say, his will to get to review Varsoon's ISO looked a bit townie for me.

[Elbirn]

NK15 postured himself to where he could vote for either RC or Varsoon while calling the thing SvS

Make him eat rope

[Nibbui]

Well, to be honest I don't even remember his posts, but if he did that it's kinda scummy yes.

2140 sounded a bit opportunistic for me but I did more or less shrug it off since he seemed townie while mentioning Varsoon's ISO.

If he did posture himself before though his vote is not worth much huh

I would appreciate if someone made a case on his ISO, I'm too lazy right now.

[ChibiBear]

Ok I'm back and catching up.

Ugh.

[ChibiBear]

i played this the way I had to with varsoon doing what he was doing. i'm like I am out of necessity.

I'm not sure if it was a necessity, but I get where you are coming from. That's a way to deal with the situation.

Well, let's just move on from that though.

VOTE: Radiant

Nothing personal but I'm not moving my vote from here, in fact, I can even perhaps yell for this lynch.

If there's even a 1% chance that Radiant is scum here, I'm lynching him today. I don't want to perhaps see this kind of play defended on post-game because it's a "winnable strategy".

This, except I think he has a far higher than 1% chance of flipping scum.

He's said over and over how nobody can even touch him if he's scum, that he's the freaking god of pushing lynches regardless of his alignment. Scum with that sort of mindset would no doubt power wolf and strongarm his way through the game and even say 'if this flips town then lynch me tomorrow'. I don't know you RC, and I don't intent to get to know you. But I believe you could definitely be scum in this game.

The way you misrepresent things people say and threaten then with scumreads if they don't agree with you. It's blatantly manipulative, not in a 'town using strategy to win' way, but in a 'scummy as all hell' way.

If this slot is still around in LyLo/MyLo then I'm replacing out, I refuse to play with this.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[Varsoon]

Unforgivable.

[ChibiBear]

Oh lol accidentally pressed submit. Continuing on:

Nobody thinks that their own words are toxic, everyone believes that they themselves are justified. I for one agree with the people saying that you were the more toxic one in this situation, and no, this does not mean that I think Varsoon's behavior was reasonable.

If it were anyone else in this situation I would probably reconsider, because I do not think most scum players would push a mislynch on town this freaking hard while saying 'lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong', but you're ~special~ so I absolutely believe that is something you would do as scum.

[Nibbui]

ChibiBear, I like you. If you're scum I kinda want to lynch you for last.

[Firebringer]

i like u nibbui, i am gonna lynch you first :devil:

[Firebringer]

Nobody thinks that their own words are toxic, everyone believes that they themselves are justified

i am toxic and i know it. SO UR WRONG!

[Nibbui]

i like u nibbui, i am gonna lynch you first :devil:

and here I was thinking I would win as scum for once...guess not...

[Firebringer]

ohh if ur scum i am going to let u live

[Nibbui]

ohh if ur scum i am going to let u live

Thanks.

Also, screw it, we only have 48 hours so I might as well compromisse.

I don't think this is flipping scum though.

VOTE: NK15

I can do Nico as well.

I would even - rather - lynch Nico but we're lacking on time so for now I'm voting NK15 where there's already a wagon.

[northsidegal]

VOTE: nk15

[Firebringer]

hi nsg how r u?

[northsidegal]

not good.

[Firebringer]

why is that?

[northsidegal]

a lot of reasons