Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[mutantdevle]

VOTE: Not Known 15
This seems right.

Agreed. His bust is worth nothing after the town flip.
VOTE: NK15

Okay, not only is NK15 a trashy lynch but I really would have thought you'd be straight onto RC given the Varsoon town flip.

[RadiantCowbells]

My current Poe pool is getting obscenely tight for this point in the game

Even if I remove gamma and I don't want to based on my read there

Mutant town
RC town
Let's assume nsg toen for now but we'll figure it our if she's not
Firebringer town
Elbirn town

Hard Leantown nibbui
Hard Leantown chibi

Leantown nk15
Leantown gamma (maybe wrong on 1/2 nk15 gamma but not both)

Leaving

Maria
Kokichi
NicoRobin

Literally

[RadiantCowbells]

I guess I should verify mutant because that's a very stale read but like

[RadiantCowbells]

Fmpov there's only so many potential scum

[mutantdevle]

This isnt productive.

VOTE: NK15

Why are you on the trash wagon too? I literally do not understand this game state.

[RadiantCowbells]

If I be intellectually honest and put nsg as null there's still at most 6 slots that are worth worrying about even assuming I'm wrong on less strong reads

[RadiantCowbells]

Maybe I'm misreading a locktown but that would essentially have to be Elbirn and this ability doesn't make sense for scum so ...

[Nibbui]

I think the way I've been singled out after the fact says enough about why I played this the way I did because if I didn't I'd always have lost any 1v1 with anyone off the back of "well x is towny and RC is too but who really knows that he is scum though?"

Your treatment of my slot backs me into a corner then you blame me for playing myself out of it

I know it is probably to Chibi but I think you have the same opinion about me so I'm going to reply this.

I'm not blaming you in that way Radiant, I'm not saying "it's all your fault". I'm just saying that I don't like how you are saying "I was only the victim" and shrugging it off as just that. I understand where you are coming from though.

Also, you said in one post that we're supposedly not treating your slot like a real player but honestly I am, you entered the game already going for Varsoon's throat and although later you had plenty of justifications to lynch him, I still don't understand your early strong scum read on him that much, it sounds a bit as if you just wanted to lynch him for his provocations and that's something I would expect from scum!RC a bit more than town!RC, and this is looking at your personality and not in meta or anything.

However, I don't plan to keep yelling to lynch you neither I'm going to lock you as scum just for that. Let's just play the game and I'm not going to ignore or anything just because I'm scum leaning you, maybe I'm wrong and you can show me that.

C'mon RC, let's play the game and not just lurk in the hood. As either alignment.

[RadiantCowbells]

I think either NSG is scum or at least 2/3 of Maria Kokichi Nico are scum

[RadiantCowbells]

Then again if my role is to give permanent action immunity to scum we can probably throw all role related reads out the window so

[Nibbui]

Hard Leantown nibbui

Did I perhaps drop from town to town lean because I'm scum leaning you or there is other reasons?

Not that I don't understand how it's hard to find towny someone accusing you if you're perhaps town, but I'm curious.

[mutantdevle]

If this slot is still around in LyLo/MyLo then I'm replacing out, I refuse to play with this.

This is a terrible attitude to have. You're scum reading him so surely you understand that his actions would be scum motivated? Replacing out in Mylo/Lylo because the mafia are too good for you is bound to screw things up and practically be throwing. This kind of attitude makes me not want you to make it anywhere near the late game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Hard Leantown nibbui

Did I perhaps drop from town to town lean because I'm scum leaning you or there is other reasons?

Not that I don't understand how it's hard to find towny someone accusing you if you're perhaps town, but I'm curious.

There's people who are more certain town than you

I dunno maybe chibi is my incorrect read I gotta dig

[mutantdevle]

ohh if ur scum i am going to let u live

Thanks.

Also, screw it, we only have 48 hours so I might as well compromisse.

I don't think this is flipping scum though.

VOTE: NK15

I can do Nico as well.

I would even - rather - lynch Nico but we're lacking on time so for now I'm voting NK15 where there's already a wagon.

What the fuck.

VOTE: nk15

What the fuck^2.

[Not Known 15]

Hard Leantown nibbui

Did I perhaps drop from town to town lean because I'm scum leaning you or there is other reasons?

Not that I don't understand how it's hard to find towny someone accusing you if you're perhaps town, but I'm curious.

There's people who are more certain town than you

I dunno maybe chibi is my incorrect read I gotta dig

You hard leantown Nibbui but you say this:

I don't think her push is better

As I stated I think she's cute and she's not scumreading me so

This seems logically inconsistent.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're missing the point that it's literally not about the quality of the push I'm sheeping Maria because she's Maria

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that if Maria is town her reads are dead on and if she's scum she's probably bussing either way

[RadiantCowbells]

But that's entirely aside from my vote.

If NSG obvtowned or Firebringer placed a good vote I might vote with them instead

[Not Known 15]

You're missing the point that it's literally not about the quality of the push I'm sheeping Maria because she's Maria

But if you strongly leantown on Nibbui then my push has to be trash, no?
So what's wrong about my push?

[RadiantCowbells]

I think you're seeing playstyle indicative things from Nibbui like the excessive use of honesty moreso than actually scum indicative things

[RadiantCowbells]

And if Nico flips town

You can essentially mod confirm Maria and kokichi as scum

[Nibbui]

TL;DR:
It is a very good indicator of scum if someone uses "to be honest" or similar often because town does have little need for dishonesty in the first place, and Nibbui has used it 13 times until now.
Nibbui used apologeticism multiple times to distance them from a lynch.
Nibbui made it clear that they are self-aware of their meta.
Their progression on mutant reads fake.
Their explanation of their vote on me is highly scummy.
Their backing down from NSG early looked like "oops I am pressuring a scumbuddy let's not do it"; why would town suddenly put all the pressure off there?
VOTE: Nibbui

1. I always use "to be honest" as either alignment and even out of mafia games, it's just a word I use frequently and I can prove it.
2. I'm not distancing myself from a lynch, sometimes I simply apologize for scum reading someone if I'm perhaps wrong (and I was). I'm probably not going to do that as much though, I'm tired of apologies.
3. Someone was accusing me of something and I just pointed it was NAI, didn't try to convince anyone to town read me based off that, although it's indeed town-indicative if you look on it at a superficial way.
4. Mutant did a similar setup talk in Open 720, I did butthead him there, and he was scum. I don't think it's weird or fake how I'm suspicious of him when he says something that sounds as trying to push forward his intentions.
5. It's not scummy. You lurk all day 1, come with a lot of bullshit posts and expect anyone to refuse lynching you when we only have 48 hours and you were the unique wagon with more than one vote?
6. I'm vaguely aware that NSG is busy with irl and very pissed at people scum reading her only because of activity so I'm trying to let her do her own thing for now. I'll eventually need to take a definitive stance on the slot though.

NK15, I was going for the sarcastic route in this post but I gave up and actually engaged you as bad/poor as this case sounds.

I have been posting it's been forever and only now, that I vote you, you think these actions are suspicious?

Can you get scummier than that? You're not helping me change my mind about lynching you, in fact this post just makes like the idea more.

[RadiantCowbells]

Conversely if she's scum it's a huge what the fuck moment for my reads

Maria bussing Nico, sure, but Maria AND Kokichi? Not likely not with how yume is. So that would say I'm heavily flawed somehow and need to reevaluate.

[RadiantCowbells]

Plus I was a dick to Maria so I should make it up to her a bit

[MariaR]

VOTE: NicoRobin

Gonna sheep Maria cuz she's cute and isn't calling me scum

Screenshot and putting on my wall