Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[the worst]

I feel like I've been really transparent about my read on you and my issues with reading you this game. I agree that your defence of NM was pingy but I still think I'd actually be really surprised to see this start of day from scum!you.

I don't have time to sit in front of a PC and logically lay out a case on my read trajectory on you. If you want something more can you let me know what you're after?

[Kokichi Oma]

Nancy, why doesn't Irrelephant's death confirm me as town in your eyes?

What? Lol

[AlmostNancy]

Yeah I might be misremembering Necromancer in particular. It was ages ago and Ank's rep in threw me off.

I don’t want to mislynch or tunnel and rn, my strongest FOSes are on you and Shoshin. But I’m open to being proven wrong but Shoshin’s never lynching you thing - even after NM flip, is pinging me hard that you two could possibly be w/w here. I don’t know whether or not Shoshin is an OMGUSSY player or not. If she is town here, then for everyone’s sake, I sincerely hope not.

But Mitilos “fallacious logic” post, has me wondering about that. I just wonder how she ever confidently pushes my mislynch right after NM’s.

Maybe, I’m overthinking this. \_0_/

Anyway, I don’t see. how we’re ever making it to D2 after this. I just couldn’t take Shoshin digging her head in the dirt and allowing town to possibly lose. I still don’t understand how, either town or brilliant scumhunter Shoshin doesn’t critically look at all the possibilities.

The way things were headed, it looked to me, like we were going to keep probably mislynching lhf until scum basically runs roughshod over us and I just couldn’t let that continue.

[Keyser Söze]

I wouldn’t jump on Performer so quick.

Yes, he deserves scrutiny for the hammer-without-roleclaim, but no quicklynch please.

Im actually more curious to look at the people ‘hard’ town reading NM yesterday instead.

Scummy post

“Scummy”?
No.

Rational post. People need to not lose their shit. Let’s read and digest.

[AlmostNancy]

Nancy, why doesn't Irrelephant's death confirm me as town in your eyes?

???

I’ve played scum. Is this even a serious question?

I was the one, who pushed RR to be NK’d N1 and he wasn’t scumreading me at all - quite the contrary, and Math wanted to NK stun, who had him as locktown.

Like whaaaa?

[Keyser Söze]

Post is scummy cause no one was going to quick lynch him. Post seems forced

“Forced”? You overlooked the message of my post and concentrated on the quicklynch part.

Congratulations.

[Shoshin]

Irrelephant would have rather been lynched then let me be lynched... so why would I ever kill him as scum? If I were scum playing the way I am (and I wish I could play scum like this), I take Irrelephant with me to 3-way LYLO because that wins me the game.

Irrelephant's death should confirm me in Nancy's eyes, not only because Irrelephant knows me better than anyone else on this site and has a flawless record of reading me, but mainly because Nancy seems to be giving lots of weight to what dead townies thought about the game.

[Nauci]

How does scum kill a PGO and still live then?

I suppose that takes Creature out of my POE

I'm on a mission to sort Performer and Keyser today

If creature couldn't have tried to shoot Irrelephant, then there must have been some sort of BP mechanic because even roleblockers would get shot by a PGO, right? My wild speculation is that a 3rd party SK would get BP and scum would have taken a shot at Creature?

Despite having such a strong cluster of players this game who are probably town, I'm really worried now, down both a vig and a protective TPR :/

[the worst]

Shoshin/me w/w in particular never kills Rel
If you don't expressly townread both of us you're mad to think we are ever scum together

[Shoshin]

Shoshin/me w/w in particular never kills Rel
If you don't expressly townread both of us you're mad to think we are ever scum together

lol seriously...

[AlmostNancy]

I feel like I've been really transparent about my read on you and my issues with reading you this game. I agree that your defence of NM was pingy but I still think I'd actually be really surprised to see this start of day from scum!you.

I don't have time to sit in front of a PC and logically lay out a case on my read trajectory on you. If you want something more can you let me know what you're after?

In what way was it “pingy”?

You mean at the time or post-flip?

[Shoshin]

Key, you sort of flew under the radar in D1. Who are your top townreads/scumreads at the moment?

[AlmostNancy]

Nancy, why doesn't Irrelephant's death confirm me as town in your eyes?

What? Lol

The main problem with Shoshin’s argument, is obviously there’s at least 3 scum in the game but in MU Greek Mythology game, I stupidly stopped the lynch on godfather Batman, only to be rewarded with a N1 NK.

[Shoshin]

And what do you think of my analysis on Nancy as scum?

[Kokichi Oma]

Shoshin if you're scum this game I'll be impressed. I'll tell you why post game if you are

[the worst]

I feel like I've been really transparent about my read on you and my issues with reading you this game. I agree that your defence of NM was pingy but I still think I'd actually be really surprised to see this start of day from scum!you.

I don't have time to sit in front of a PC and logically lay out a case on my read trajectory on you. If you want something more can you let me know what you're after?

In what way was it “pingy”?

You mean at the time or post-flip?

Mostly preflip but it's not overwhelmingly wolfy, just made me think to re-check it if NM did indeed flip town (=> see if it looked like t/s t/t etc.)

[AlmostNancy]

Irrelephant would have rather been lynched then let me be lynched... so why would I ever kill him as scum? If I were scum playing the way I am (and I wish I could play scum like this), I take Irrelephant with me to 3-way LYLO because that wins me the game.

Irrelephant's death should confirm me in Nancy's eyes, not only because Irrelephant knows me better than anyone else on this site and has a flawless record of reading me, but mainly because Nancy seems to be giving lots of weight to what dead townies thought about the game.

You townlocking tw, after NM flip, is what’s pinging me and why would you ever in a million years ever ignore the extremely confident read of a dead townie.

You might serious consider if you could possibly be wrong and then debunk it but not even consider the possibility - no latter in your mind, how remote? Why would you? I would always be open to reconsidering even my strongest townread after a flip. I don’t get this logic.

And why did you not listen to me and consider that maybe I could have been right about NM. Kokichi and Skitter also thought he’d be flipping town?

So, yeah I’m pissed that after a mistake like that, you’re not even thinking about reconsidering your reads.

[Kokichi Oma]

I mean, that was typical NM and you guys tried lynching him for being NM

[AlmostNancy]

And what do you think of my analysis on Nancy as scum?

If you’re scum, Kudos, if town, you’ll go down as WOAT this game.

[Kokichi Oma]

AlNan you're quickly gaining scum equity. Need you to be towny.

[Kokichi Oma]

That includes not letting Almost50 type. cause I scumread his every post

[Keyser Söze]

Key, you sort of flew under the radar in D1. Who are your top townreads/scumreads at the moment?

You and Soshin are my ‘top’ tier town reads. Nauci strong town lean.

I don’t like Nancy’s push on you and TW today.

I don’t like koki’s change of tone either: where has Mr Badass gone? We’ll find out tonight what he’s actually made of.

[Shoshin]

The main problem with Shoshin’s argument, is obviously there’s at least 3 scum in the game but in MU Greek Mythology game, I stupidly stopped the lynch on godfather Batman, only to be rewarded with a N1 NK.

That game isn't remotely comparable, the biggest differences being the strength of Irrelephant's townread on me, Irrelephant's extensive knowledge of my meta, his willingness to follow my reads in most cases, and the fact that he had already claimed a non-threatening role to the scum. If I were scum, I never kill him here.

The existence of three scum is irrelevant. Scum do what wins them the game. If a player townreads scum to the extent that Irrelephant townread me, a player who already claimed a non-threatening role to the scum, scum probably leave that player alive on N1. Whoever killed Irrelephant found him threatening enough to think that it was worth killing him over trying to kill a potential power role (investigative, protective, etc.). The likely reason for Irrelephant's death is that he correctly scumread at least one of the scum, and/or scum have a protective role (bulletproof, doctor, or whatever) that they feared would be lynched today and they wanted to kill Irrelephant while they had the chance. Whatever the case, it's never me.

Like, think about Labyrinth mafia. Why didn't scum ever kill you despite being confirmed town? Because you townread the scum. There's exceptions to that general rule, but not in a case like this where Irrelephant townread me to the extent he did. It's odd that you're discounting that and immediately assuming I'm scum for pushing you a bit.

[AlmostNancy]

I mean, that was typical NM and you guys tried lynching him for being NM

And it was utter bullshit for Shoshin to say he wasn’t scumhunting here. Maybe, initially on his dafuq Irrelephant11 vote but he did make a not a terrible case on the worst - at least it was obvious, he BELIEVED it anyway.

Is Shoshin is actually town here, then I am never sheeping her reads ever again. I just don’t understand how they can be this bad this game and how town!Shoshin ever seriously thinks I’m scum here.

If she is scum here, then she’s playing ballsy af. That is beyond obvious.

[AlmostNancy]

AlNan you're quickly gaining scum equity. Need you to be towny.

I don’t know what you want me to say, other than that I am 100% flipping town here and how am I “quickly gaining scum equity”? THINK Kokichi, in what world am I possibly scum in this game?