Micro 837: Joint Operation Mafia (End game)

[CheekyTeeky]

What's the votecount?

[Clemency]

i highly doubt the opposing scum share a pt

[Wisdom]

own can refer to many?

why would they each have a pt for themselves, what purpose would that serve

[Wisdom]

i think its pretty clear that the point of the game is two scum of different factions who can choose when to work together and when to fight
sharing a pt makes that even more interesting
dunn clearly had the same opinion as me since he asked about the nightkills

[profii]

own can refer to many?

why would they each have a pt for themselves, what purpose would that serve

Well let’s push that logic to it’s full conclusion

The 2 scum dudes don’t need to work together so why do they even need a shared PT

They don’t have any night actions so no PTs are required at all

[Wisdom]

@Maria

Can you clarify whether the red and blue goons share a pt or not?

[profii]

Logically I think the PTs are probably a red herring because they seem completely pointless

I guess if anything maybe there is a shared one but even then all I could see happening in there is posts like “ho ho ho you’re in trouble there”

[Wisdom]

The 2 scum dudes don’t need to work together so why do they even need a shared PT

because they can work together to eliminate town for a time if they want

it makes more sense than them each having an empty useless pt

[CheekyTeeky]

Welcome to Joint Operation Mafia you are a Red Mafia goon
Powers: You are aware that XXX is the Blue mafia goon and you have your own pt to talk in here besides that goodluck!

[CheekyTeeky]

i highly doubt the opposing scum share a pt

Why?

[profii]

If Maria clears it up then cool

But what we can draw from this is that from Wisdoms and possibly Dunn’s perspectives that they are looking for 2 people working together to push a mislynch rather than the 2 scums knowingly pushing against each other

Do you have anyone in mind that fits that bill?

[CheekyTeeky]

I still don't understand why I'm scummy.

[Wisdom]

If Maria clears it up then cool

But what we can draw from this is that from Wisdoms and possibly Dunn’s perspectives that they are looking for 2 people working together to push a mislynch rather than the 2 scums knowingly pushing against each other

Do you have anyone in mind that fits that bill?

why are you even assuming me and dunn are scum

[DarkLightA]

@Mod Are mafia required to submit their kill in their pt that they both share, or can they message you during the night?

This feels fake. Why would we care if scum submitted kills via PT or PM? Feels like a derped town tell.

This is a good spot, which i agree with (also the reasoning behind my first scum accusation of dunn), though I don't agree that the question is the issue. Cheeky's question throws me off. She's posing the question openly without making any effort to dig deeper and actually understand what the dynamic Dunnstral is pointing to actually is—and it's not hard to spot if you actually care.

VOTE: darklighta

pretending to be greyscale with that screen name, clearly red or blue

did someone say l-1?

UNVOTE: cheekyteeky

why are you playing with fire there DLA

This. He's clearly reaction testing - DLA omguses him after admitting he sees Profii's gambit. I also like his wagon analysis but don't know why he would choose PP over DLA.

This throws me off a lot. He is literally analyzing a RVS, and explaining my response to voting him after he did his unvote trick as an OMGUS? I'd think it would be pretty that it's not an OMGUS vote. It's like he's just doing analysis for the sake of generating content.

...oh and what wagon analysis does he like?

Spoiler: This

Cheeky went: PP, Elbirn, Clem, DarkLightA (yotta late arrival)

Then I went: DarkLightA, PP, Wisdom


Gonna go PP

VOTE: PenguinPower

Scum are basically serial killers here, so logically going for people on both wagons as no real idea how to sort this game

I would just as easily go DLA tbh

How serious is your pp vote from 1 to 10?

about a 3 at a push?

10 is rvs
26 was a fake unvote
32 is meaningless

I don't get it

Ugh do I really have to force feed you? 10 shows his only vote before his fake unvote on me, 32 shows him following up his 32

[sic]

reaction test asking DLA why he'd play with fire by being on my wagon.

Actually thinking more about it Profii could have been trying to lure more votes/a quickhammer onto me so it's not the towniest reaction test out there...interesting.

I don't understand why anyone would think a fake unvote would be used as a reaction test. And why he would possibly consider 32 to be a legitimate question.

cool you WK Dunn then.

VOTE: Wisdom

Another of these scumhunting for the lulz moments. As correctly pointed out by profii there would be no reason for scum to WK each other (sooner the opposite), and it makes it look like Cheeky is interested in pointing out tells and sharing blame more than finding scum.

Also if you guys get to lylo without a scum lynch then I'd assume one scum would be pushing the other around that phase.

Brilliant reasoning. Except that a little thinking reveals they should be interested in lynching scum from start to avoid a draw, and LYLO isn't actually meaningful in this game.

[profii]

That wasn’t the question - that question actually assumes you are town as you inferred you are looking for 2 scums working together to mislynch - therefore if you are looking for a scum partnership then you obviously can’t be scum 3



So I ask again - any pairing that you have spotted yet?

[profii]

^ that’s for wisdom obviously

[CheekyTeeky]

Cases are scummy.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm getting pretty mad so adios.

[DarkLightA]

whoop, i think profii scumslipped

[profii]

When I wrote it I knew someone would say that but it seemed like the best way to phrase it

[profii]

If Maria clears it up then cool

But what we can draw from this is that from Wisdoms and possibly Dunn’s perspectives that they are looking for 2 people working together to push a mislynch rather than the 2 scums knowingly pushing against each other

Do you have anyone in mind that fits that bill?

why are you even assuming me and dunn are scum

This is the real scum slip btw


When i said if you are town you are eyeing up 2 scums to work on a mislynch and rather than either making 2 slots or even just saying yep that’s what I’m looking for but it’s not happened yet - Wisdom ignores the questions because I assume he hasn’t got 2 suspects and the moment has passed for him to say “you right profii”

So I think

VOTE: wisdom

[profii]

It should saying naming 2 slots - not making 2 slots

[profii]

But yeah I think what you are calling a scum slip was me setting up a trap so I’ll just out it anyway and vote

[DarkLightA]

I'm referring to the whole "own" debacle. I think any rational person would assume the scum share a PT if they're given one. I actually noticed while reading the role PMs before that the links to the PTs are different. Even with this I assumed it was just a mistake and that one was used actively.

I think most people would assume "your own" refers to the two scum teams, as illustrated by Wisdom in 171. Defaulting to the opposite is suspicious as hell.

[Wisdom]

whoop, i think profii scumslipped

how?