Excalibur [Endgame]

[Kokichi Oma]

I thought his reaction to it was bad. Sorry Arthur my reads are bad lol. Listen to someone else

So, it was you then? Sorry Maria, in that case.

No. I'm Merlin. I'm saying Arthur shouldn't listen to me anymore. Are you reading this game lol

I KNOW that. I mean that you were the one with the shit reads, not Maria. That is what you said, isn’t it?

Yes. My reads suck. And for the last time, she isnt Arthur. Shes town tho.

[Varsoon]

Ya'll. We don't need to be antagonizing each other here.
That's how we had the situation we had on D1.

Nancy, I don't know that I've ever seen you use a swear. Take a breath.

[Kokichi Oma]

Varsoon. Reads?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy what are your reads from towniest to scummiest

Well,

You
Maria (obviously)

Varsoon

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Dunn

Penguin is looking better.

Who else is still in this game?

Chara
Gamma?

[Varsoon]

3 of these have to be scum:

Nancy Drew 39
Gamma Emerald
Dunnstral
Untrod Tripod
Chara
PenguinPower

It's basically an informed 50/50
Kokichi, you're talking like we lose here but if we lynch a scum and shoot a scum, we win instantly.
Scum only win if they get to equal our numbers or more
So if we mislynch, we STILL get another day so long as Arthur DOES NOT SHOOT.

I don't think Nancy's scum.

Can someone collect all the Merlin claims and hypoclaims?
We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ya'll. We don't need to be antagonizing each other here.
That's how we had the situation we had on D1.

Nancy, I don't know that I've ever seen you use a swear. Take a breath.

What? Chill

Me and Kokichi aren’t fighting here. At least, that’s not how it looks to me.

[Varsoon]

Okay, I was starting to worry.
I've been kinda hyper-sensitive to people's rhetoric in games since I caught a signup ban.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Ya'll. We don't need to be antagonizing each other here.
That's how we had the situation we had on D1.

Nancy, I don't know that I've ever seen you use a swear. Take a breath.

What? Chill

Me and Kokichi aren’t fighting here. At least, that’s not how it looks to me.

You want to see “antagonizing”, check out Wisdom and me in YGM.

lolololol

[Kokichi Oma]

We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?

Scum's reads have been as bad as mine

[Varsoon]

Why do you think that is?
What's the scum comp if they're unable to parse this kind of a puzzle?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Okay, I was starting to worry.
I've been kinda hyper-sensitive to people's rhetoric in games since I caught a signup ban.

Yeah, I saw. Some games get heated. Like you won’t see me calling anyone a “jerk” (waves to UT, )or anything.

I’m sorry Kokichi. Please excuse my vernacular.

[Nancy Drew 39]

3 of these have to be scum:

Nancy Drew 39
Gamma Emerald
Dunnstral
Untrod Tripod
Chara
PenguinPower

It's basically an informed 50/50
Kokichi, you're talking like we lose here but if we lynch a scum and shoot a scum, we win instantly.
Scum only win if they get to equal our numbers or more
So if we mislynch, we STILL get another day so long as Arthur DOES NOT SHOOT.

I don't think Nancy's scum.

Can someone collect all the Merlin claims and hypoclaims?
We can parse pretty easily from those if scum actually know who Merlin is, right?

Maybe figure out who’s town might be easier than scum?

Oh I forgot UT on my list.

Dunn is the towniest of the lot.

Maybe UT is scum?

[Varsoon]

I really, really wish Chara or UT would get in game.

[Nancy Drew 39]

VoteCount 3.1

Not Known 15 [7] - SirCakez, PenguinPower, Dunnstral, Nancy Drew 39, Kokichi Oma, Auro, MariaR [LYNCH]

SirCakez [0] -

Not Voting [5]

- Varsoon, Gamma Emerald, Not Known 15, Untrod Tripod, Chara

With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-12-19 14:00:00)

Hmmm, other than Varsoon, do we have out scumteam or did they bus?

[Dunnstral]

It's not lylo if Arthur doesn't shoot fyi

[Dunnstral]

And considering that this game will never go below 5 people from the mechanics, arthur not shooting is probably the best strat here as it puts us at 7 alive -> 5 alive instead of 6 alive -> game over

[Nancy Drew 39]

Town

me

Kokichi
Maria

Varsoon

Dunn

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So, are scum all below this line?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Town

me

Kokichi
Maria

Varsoon

Dunn

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So, are scum all below this line?

Actually, only 2 of Penguin, Chara and Gamma, UT can be scum.

So, which ones should we hurt?

[Gamma Emerald]

?

[Nancy Drew 39]

?

Who do you think is scum here Gamma?

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk rn
I wanna look at who was on the lynch wagons soon

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually not as much
Forgot we got a scumflip yesterdey for a second
Still a good idea tbh

[Kokichi Oma]

Uh what

[Nancy Drew 39]

LL coming out hot with the reads.
What makes Nancy and UT town?
Why is mechanical talk scummy in an open setup?
If I was scum and you asked me to bus-gladiate, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Throwing out a thought:
If scum claims Excalibur, they die immediately.
Town can vote on someone to claim Excalibur for the day. ONLY that person claims at night. If they're scum it remains unclaimed, lynch next day. If there's a claim treat them like an IC the next day.

Kill resolves before claim. Yes, we'd effectively gate the scum kill but we'd also render the setup as 13-4 mountainous.
But I think you're right in that we could effectively use the sword claiming as a one-shot cop, but, again, that renders the bulletproof aspect of it kind of useless.

@MOD: If Merlin dies and flips, does Arthur's identity get revealed with the flip?
Can Merlin claim Excalibur?

Tone on both. It's what I expect from them.

It's not that we can't talk mechanics. Mechanics is NAI. It's that talking mechanics and using them to smother other interactions that generate reads + create "content" for scummy players is scumsided. Explained in a prior post, happy to explain again.

Crossbus Gladiates are inherently bad for scum due to the White Flag rule. If one scum remains, they concede. Bussing is far more likely to create a single scum surviving scenario, and eventually scum need to leave associatives, which means bussing is bad, especially day 1.

On this: I think bussing in general is less effective at furthering scum’s goals than creating an association with a town player. In Children of Hurin, I let the association between Nero and me fester, and that caused the game winning mislynch to happen, though Town wasn’t winning towards the end anyway.

nk15 post wasn't bad but...how the fuck did he know all that shit given he just replaced in is my question

Now that I’m out of my “fuck everything” state I think this is a good point
I caught scum!Wisdom with this exact thing in a kinda old game so I think we may be onto something.

Okay, I think Gamma is town here.

[MariaR]

I should've just shot UT but I had to be a hero ayyy