Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[Kokichi Oma]

Lynch nk15

[Kokichi Oma]

If it's a luck based mini game, I pretty much will win btw. Which is why I've been waiting for one. Guess who I am

[MariaR]

VOTE: nk15

[MariaR]

If it's a luck based mini game, I pretty much will win btw. Which is why I've been waiting for one. Guess who I am

go away nagito

[NicoRobin]

So apparently, prioritizing my real life over the game makes me scum.

[NicoRobin]

Got it.

[mutantdevle]

Well I've been open about unlocking the towniest persons role PM. Even if I was scum it assists town. Considering scum will try to win the games regardless and an important PM could never be unlocked

Unless that "towniest person" happens to be scum or you have something to mitigate this(roleblocker, strongman kill) - that's a bad argument. Or maybe your ability unlocks TWO PM's, then you could open up one scum ability as well while decieving town. I see good possibilities for this role to be in the hands of scum - just as not all town might have only pro-town abilities scum can have pro-town or pro-town

looking

abilities.

I think that if Kokichi is scum then there is definitely something he isn't telling us. Eg. what if he is informed of what ability he unlocks for the town.

[mutantdevle]

Can you not see how bad nk15's vote on me was after the nico thing?

I guess, but that's just how NK15 is. But maybe I'm just giving him too much of a free pass.

[mutantdevle]

NK15 maybe scum. who knows. Mutant's super townread there makes me scared to vote there since I know that I would have trouble reading there.
I don't really know if Mutant can read him either? So, like? I don't know!

I don't have a town read on him per se but I just have heavy caution in lynching him. He has the perfect playstyle to be lynch bait and he's the one person that I'd expect scum to misslynch instead of night killing 100% of the time. Though I guess that also makes his lynch one of the most informative and his flip will confirm whether the people pushing his lynch are pushing lynch bait or just getting lucky in hitting scum as I really don't believe anyone genuinely calling him scum has any valid reasons. They are primarily reading him on his playstyle. And, y'know, I like the guy. As much as his logic frustrates me sometimes his crazy ideas bring a smile to my face.

As far as I'm concerned, we don't need him to be lynched to get AI information from those voting him. And in my opinion we could use someone like NK15. He's an outside of the box thinker. That's useful. Sure, he doesn't always reach the right conclusions, but he really isn't destructive and he's easily controlled. I don't think he'd get much of his own way as scum because barely anyone listens to him. The only times we do is when he's made a solid conclusion for once and that's often beneficial. Lynching NK15 is something I'd be far more comfortable with in the late game because at least then we've had a chance to see how other people interact with him so that judging whether someone voting for him is scummy would be easier.

I'm going to UNVOTE: actually. My reason for voting Kokichi is much less to do with them then it is me just wanting someone other than NK15 lynched. But I'll have no part in lynching NK15 unless I think we'd end in a no lynch without my vote. But I'm pretty sure NK15 is the lynch here anyway.

This is all on the assumption that he flips town. If he doesn't then fuck me I guess but I really would have thought NK15's scum game would be beyond obvious.

[RadiantCowbells]

At least nk15 town flip tells us we can mercilessly kill all 3 of Kokichi Nico Maria and expect 2 scum flipw

[mutantdevle]

Also, I don't like how mutant isn't one bit suspicious of NK15. Even if he say things like that as town, won't he do the similar as scum?

I'm not suspicious of NK15 because nothing he's done has stood out to me as scummy. What you are scum reading him for is entirely his playstyle.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, I don't like how mutant isn't one bit suspicious of NK15. Even if he say things like that as town, won't he do the similar as scum?

I'm not suspicious of NK15 because nothing he's done has stood out to me as scummy. What you are scum reading him for is entirely his playstyle.

I can super empathize with Mutants feelings because I'm reluctant to call nk15 hard town because who really fucking knows but the reasons he's being scumread are awful.

[MariaR]

Just because someone has a scummy playstyle doesn't mean they can't get a red role pm

[RadiantCowbells]

I do think 75-25 he is town in a pool of potential scum where his odds are 50/50 by default

I would not want to see his lynch ordinarily but I think his townflip makes it likely town lynches scum tomorrow

[mutantdevle]

So I used my one shot role to keep the thread open at night but it also made someone immune to a lynch and the person I chose for that was someone i then voted for?

This is pretty contrived considering abilities...you know. Do one thing.

Keeping the thread open and making someone immune is 2 separate abilities. We know you have 2 abilities. Furthermore, making someone immune that you were voting for doesn't mean shit because it could easily be scum theatre.

[mutantdevle]

At least nk15 town flip tells us we can mercilessly kill all 3 of Kokichi Nico Maria and expect 2 scum flipw

Exactly my thoughts though maybe not as harsh as you put it lol.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fwiw mutant your posting this game has been by far the best

[RadiantCowbells]

This is not a pocket attempt ftr

[MariaR]

There's nothing that points to scum me (or kokichi for that matter) but go nuts.

[mutantdevle]

Just because someone has a scummy playstyle doesn't mean they can't get a red role pm

His playstyle isn't even scummy. He just comes to the wrong conclusions and tends not think about things before he posts them. That's my impression anyway. And that kind of playstyle leads to easy scum slips. If he was scum I'd think we'd have a stronger indication of that than just him saying some illogical things.

[RadiantCowbells]

PoE is insanely tight and you're in it

You're only slightly below null and in this lobby it's enough to make you near confscum

[RadiantCowbells]

Basically everyone in the Poe is currently voting nk15

[mutantdevle]

Fwiw mutant your posting this game has been by far the best

This is not a pocket attempt ftr

Thanks That's gonna mean a lot to me post game if you're town.

[RadiantCowbells]

Dw one of us is gonna die soon

[MariaR]

Just because someone has a scummy playstyle doesn't mean they can't get a red role pm

His playstyle isn't even scummy. He just comes to the wrong conclusions and tends not think about things before he posts them. That's my impression anyway. And that kind of playstyle leads to easy scum slips. If he was scum I'd think we'd have a stronger indication of that than just him saying some illogical things.

I don't think his playstyle is 'scummy' but that's the answer I'm getting from people as an excuse for not voting him. If he's so towny what makes him towny? You're just offering a lynch for the sake of it. If the nk15 lynch is town do something about it