A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Vecna]

I think this is my first game with a hider, ever.

[Vecna]

I'm becoming more and more sure that I just have a guilty on 2 remaining scum players and if there's a third it has to be Shoshin.

So would a scum Vecna confront you about that stuff if he knew it would condemn him? Because I pointed you at the fact you could not have gotten a result, while you didnt even notice it.

[Jingle]

Just because you're old doesn't mean you shouldn't keep up with new developments

Get off my lawn.

[Jingle]

Because I pointed you at the fact you could not have gotten a result, while you didnt even notice it.

Link?

[RadiantCowbells]

A Story Revisited

Votecount 6.320:

Aristophanes (6): Northsidegal, Gamma Emerald, Jingle, Shiro, jjh927, Lady Angel
Jingle (2): Aristophanes, Vecna
jjh927 (1): Nero Cain
Sheepsaysmeep (0):
Northsidegal (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Nero Cain (0):
The Meme Men (0):
Lady Angel: (0):
Creature (0):
Vecna (0):
Profii (0):
Shoshin (0):

Not Voting: Adelbert Steiner, Shoshin, Creature, Sora, Sheepsaysmeep

With 13 alive it's 8 to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2018-12-23 19:00:00). - its christmas, going to set deadline before then resume after.

prods

[sheepsaysmeep]

im here sorry

im finna vote ari but that's still without any idea of whats going on mechanically here besides that theres a 1v1 with jingle who i remember liking

[Aristophanes]

im here sorry

im finna vote ari but that's still without any idea of whats going on mechanically here besides that theres a 1v1 with jingle who i remember liking

Have you seriously read nothing?

The last, like, 10 pages(?) Have been us discussing all iterations and possibilities! It has been spelled out multiple times! If you're gonna mislynch me at least understand it!

[Aristophanes]

That said, as Vecna has mentioned Jingle is just trying to pull me down with them obviously. Busdriver is a possible role I guess and if Jingle flips town is the only sensible way their results were skewed. Like I was thinking about it today and what if I was busdriven so I hid behind someone else? It would explain why I never got any pizza as well as the lack of hider result. I find it extremely unlikely and have no clue why I was RB'd the night previous but yeah.

[sheepsaysmeep]

it's hard to try to understand what the fuck is going on when the last minimum 20 pages are just people posting about claims and roles and mechanical shit that i have no context on


ive been struggling to find any legitimate read based on posting or something that's actually happened in thread instead of over role or night action yet

[sheepsaysmeep]

honestly i might just resort to sheeping creautre

[Jingle]

It would explain why I never got any pizza as well as the lack of hider result.

You having literally any night action explains the lack of pizza. You only get pizza if you stay home.

[profii]

VOTE: Ari

L-1

L-1

L-1

[Vecna]

Because I pointed you at the fact you could not have gotten a result, while you didnt even notice it.

Link?

You know full well you noticed it after I was questioning you on it

[Vecna]

you have a watcher ability?

Firebrunger did.

Also, did firebringer invite you twice in a row? You both tracked and voyeured right?

Also, if Jingle actually was invited by Fire N4, he shouldve already been able to confirm my jailkeep on fire, since he'd know that by not getting a result. Maybe im just confused and Jingle wasnt invited two nights in a row. Its a bit of a clusterfuck.

Also, did firebringer invite you twice in a row? You both tracked and voyeured right?

You can't have JK'd FB, I just realized.

Vecna slipped up.

Just to put it out there.

[Vecna]

So yeah, you people are about to hammer someone that is guiltied by someone that is very likely scum.

He is trying to discredit my jailkeep on a night while there was NO SCUMKILL,

There was no other way for there to not be a scumkill that I can tell, unless they actively decided not to kill someone that night.

But apparently everyone is just sick of this game and no longer cares to think rationally about anything involving even a little bit of mechanics. So you just go for the easy lynch, even though there is not a single lead to Jingle's partner.

[Vecna]

Also, he was just faking being willing to be the information lynch. As soon as I start trying to convince people that that is in fact the case, he suddenly starts trying to discredit any of my posts.

[Vecna]

Also, I was the first person to say I'm probably the best objective lynch for the day. I'd obviously prefer to lynch scum, but... :shrug:

I'm not gonna fight to save my life.

Hmm, how did we let mastina get away claiming D3 IC?

That was Vecna.

Post 7963 sticks in my craw a bit.

First category:

1. For Jingle and Vecna to be town there has to be some kind of redirector. I have no evidence of its existence outside of the FB succeeded at his action while theoretically jailkept knowledge.
2. In both (2) cases the same premise applies. I legitimately didn't think of what a result from FB meant until recently. Either I'm scum and didn't realize faking a result was implicative or I'm town and didn't realize an actual result was implicative. Twisting this to suggest I'm more likely to be scum because of it is disingenuous at best.
3. Ari claimed to have been roleblocked N4. I claimed to have been roleblocked N3. In either case, for one of us to be scum, someone has to be lying (either about being targeted or about being a town roleblocker).
4. Again, nothing to do with me. Scum provably did not kill anyone on N4 when their 1-shot strongman was alive. My role has literally 0 bearing on that. Me giving a pizza to someone in no way influences any killing abilities they may have.

The only problem with my alignment that actually exists in that post is that if Vecna targeted FB, there shouldn't have been a tracker result. A redirector makes it possible Vecna and I are both town.

That's it. That's the only actual indicative point. He's bringing in a bunch of additional information to make it look complicated, but it really isn't. If there isn't a scum redirector, one of the two of us is scum. And I'd like to point out that FB gave absolutely no indications I can see, either in here or in the Neighborhood, that he was targeted by Vecna

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"Additional information". Like the fact that a nightkill is missing is not important when youre trying to claim the investigating PR isnt jailkept?

And yes, all these points I made DO POINT at you being much more likely to be scum. Like every single one of them makes it much more unlikely that I was randomly redirected, after which scum still failed to murder the unprotected firebringer. And you then not noticing afterwards.

Trying to state this isnt the case is whats really disingenuous.

[THE MEME MEN]

UNVOTE:

Need LH to weigh in here

-RH

[Vecna]

Bad lynch is bad

[Vecna]

(and lol @ myself if I was actually redirected and im just making this hard again because.....why knows)

[profii]

Vecna, you said 'he' a lot - do you mean Jingle?

[THE MEME MEN]

Jingle is a he -rh

[profii]

So yeah, you people are about to hammer someone that is guiltied by someone that is very likely scum. He is trying to discredit my jailkeep on a night while there was NO SCUMKILL,

I mean like - I assume this is referring to Jingle, rather than questioning his pronoun

[Vecna]

Yes im referring to Jingle

[profii]

ok I'll go with it

VOTE: Jingle

tell me if Jingle flips scum where does that send us mechanically next? is there an obvious suspect coming up next>?