Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[skitter30]

i mean i would actually be fine lynching kokichi today but yeah

[Xtoxm]

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2 most recent ones that come to mind.

[Nauci]

The biggest beef I have is that I don't feel like town!keyser would be intentionally obtuse about the way mew is claiming someone is lying

Idk if I've ever seen Keyser so intentionally misrep something, or be a big Lynch All Liars proponent

It feels so scummy that I'd be willing to lynch a claimed investigative

It worked out when I was adamant about dunking ducky that one time

Why not wait for Key to prove or disprove his claim?

What would disprove said claim? How would you know if he's proved it?

Gunsmith is one of the easier roles to get away with faking, in my experience, so it's frequently fake claimed

[AlmostNancy]

i mean i could link you a couple examples of me protecting people for purely mechanical reasons if you cared but i dont feel like that would actually change anything with your stance on me
im not someone that makes a subpar play just because i happen to be scumreading someone. mechanics are FAR more reliable in this game than reads.

Well, tw’s metacheck on Key, makes me think, this could be his towngame.

But I’m not willing to lynch our only claimed investigative, unless he proves to be lying.

[Shoshin]

There's at least two scum in Key, Mew, Mitillos, Xtom, or Performer. Key should be investigating within this group if he isn't lynched today.

[AlmostNancy]

mechanics are FAR more reliable in this game than reads.

I strongly disagree. You can't reliably outguess the mod or know what sorts of misdirection powers scum have. Behaviors, on the other hand, never lie.

Key’s N2 results are confirmable - one way or the other.

[Shoshin]

i mean i would actually be fine lynching kokichi today but yeah

Patience.

[Xtoxm]

Tbqh I'd prefer a Keyser lynch over the other 2 today because I feel his scumminess in my bones and the only thing stopping me is what happened in Watchmen Wanted when I was also scumreading him (though that was more strongly conflicted while this is a weaker but more pure scum read)

Has everyone dropped expectations of kokichi to post and are just waiting on whatever ~*~mechanic~*~ to reveal itself?

yep basically
im hoping he wont confirm given his approach but i think that he will
lol

[Xtoxm]

There's at least two scum in Key, Mew, Mitillos, Xtom, or Performer. Key should be investigating within this group if he isn't lynched today.

stop directing prs

[Shoshin]

I don't doubt Key's role, nor do I think there's any need for him to prove it. What we need is investigations on scummy players, results that we can use if Key flips town.

[skitter30]

mechanics are FAR more reliable in this game than reads.

I strongly disagree. You can't reliably outguess the mod or know what sorts of misdirection powers scum have. Behaviors, on the other hand, never lie.

Key’s N2 results are confirmable - one way or the other.

didn't he claim odd night?

he's not giving another result till like day 4

[AlmostNancy]

The biggest beef I have is that I don't feel like town!keyser would be intentionally obtuse about the way mew is claiming someone is lying

Idk if I've ever seen Keyser so intentionally misrep something, or be a big Lynch All Liars proponent

It feels so scummy that I'd be willing to lynch a claimed investigative

It worked out when I was adamant about dunking ducky that one time

Why not wait for Key to prove or disprove his claim?

What would disprove said claim? How would you know if he's proved it?

Gunsmith is one of the easier roles to get away with faking, in my experience, so it's frequently fake claimed

Because if he lies about who he checked and the result, another player can confirm it.

Why is no one seeing the obvious logic in what Xtoxm is saying here?

[skitter30]

viewtopic.php?p=7570320#p7570320
viewtopic.php?p=7421346#p7421346
2 most recent ones that come to mind.

i will check these a later tonight

[Xtoxm]

i linked the direct posts you only really need to look at those posts and maybe a couple around them

[Shoshin]

Nancy, I beg you to stop talking about proving Key's role. Key's role doesn't prove his alignment so it's not a helpful area of discussion to sort him.

[AlmostNancy]

Tbqh I'd prefer a Keyser lynch over the other 2 today because I feel his scumminess in my bones and the only thing stopping me is what happened in Watchmen Wanted when I was also scumreading him (though that was more strongly conflicted while this is a weaker but more pure scum read)

Has everyone dropped expectations of kokichi to post and are just waiting on whatever ~*~mechanic~*~ to reveal itself?

yep basically
im hoping he wont confirm given his approach but i think that he will
lol

Just don't shoot me if you're a vig if it doesn't show me as IC right away N2. But, yes I will be clear, don't worry.

I think it would be suicide to make this claim, if he isn’t.

[Shoshin]

I also think you're townreading Xtom too easily, Nancy. It reminds me of the way you townread Random in Labyrinth. Can you explain precisely why you townread him? Explain in your own words why he's town.

[AlmostNancy]

mechanics are FAR more reliable in this game than reads.

I strongly disagree. You can't reliably outguess the mod or know what sorts of misdirection powers scum have. Behaviors, on the other hand, never lie.

Key’s N2 results are confirmable - one way or the other.

didn't he claim odd night?

he's not giving another result till like day 4

Key N1 result? Are you odd/even night or full power?

I checked Creature.

Odd night.

We can also get insight from what Kokichi says but based on tw’s metacheck, his posting looks like his towngame to me. \_0_/

[AlmostNancy]

Nancy, I beg you to stop talking about proving Key's role. Key's role doesn't prove his alignment so it's not a helpful area of discussion to sort him.

Can you link me to any games with a scum gunsmith in them?

[Shoshin]

Can you link me to any games with a scum gunsmith in them?

I'm sure there's games. And even if there isn't, remember when you kept saying there couldn't be scum neighbors in Labyrinth?

[AlmostNancy]

I also think you're townreading Xtom too easily, Nancy. It reminds me of the way you townread Random in Labyrinth. Can you explain precisely why you townread him? Explain in your own words why he's town.

In what world is Xtoxm playing anything like Random was in Labrynth?

I ignored Random’s obvious scummy play. He was pushing the hardclaimed cop.

Xtoxm OTOH, is trying to stop our only hardclaimed investigative’s lynch?

This reminds you of Labrynth scum!Random, how?

[Varsoon]

@AlmostNancy: I think it's possible that an infested terran did a kill on N1, given we have two deaths.
I dunno what the factional makeup is like, though.
I'd bet dollars to donuts that whoever killed the PGO was some kind of BP SK though.

[Shoshin]

Xtom's trying to stop the lynch of a scummy player, Nancy. What reminds me of Labyrinth is your willingness to townread scummy players for bad reasons.

[AlmostNancy]

Can you link me to any games with a scum gunsmith in them?

I'm sure there's games. And even if there isn't, remember when you kept saying there couldn't be scum neighbors in Labyrinth?

When did I ever say that? And how is that even relevant to anything happening in this game? Xtoxm is obvtown here and I’m never lynching him.

[Xtoxm]

<3 Nancy