Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[Nauci]

The idea is that gunsmith would yeild a guilty on people with 'bullet' kills only, which we're spec'ing that Zerg don't use.

That's not how gunsmith works please stop ignoring me saying this.

Would you like to explain how it is wrong

[Varsoon]

I don't buy town having a gunsmith when we've got two roles that'd already ping it and there's high chance scum have roles to give it 'false' clears.

But that really depends on how much the mod has designed this specifically to ruin my day.

[Nauci]

Keyser why aren't you even here to defend yourself :<

[Varsoon]

Wonky shit is (iirc) that Keyser claimed Informed Town Gunsmith after there had been a lot of discussion about Gunsmith in the setup.

[Xtoxm]

The idea is that gunsmith would yeild a guilty on people with 'bullet' kills only, which we're spec'ing that Zerg don't use.

That's not how gunsmith works please stop ignoring me saying this.

Would you like to explain how it is wrong

The roles that gunsmith gets a guilty/not guilty on are well defined and independent of whatever kill flavour the mod is using in a them game. If it worked different the mod should be saying so in the role PM. I'm looking for a source.

[Xtoxm]

Ok. On further research, my interpretation applies to normal games. Theme games

can

be different, but it would be considered bastard not to in inform the gunsmith in the role PM that he checks specifically flavour. So this is something Keyser would need to clarify.

[Xtoxm]

viewtopic.php?p=7733381#p7733381
mastina is a co mod here, this isn't something that would just slip through.

[Performer]

@Performer:
I don't know how to spell out my claim any more than I already have.
What are you having trouble figuring out here?

After giving it some thought, I'm concluding that 1 of you, AN, or the other informed roles is outright lying.

Duran and someone else being named Duran sounds farfetched. The wiki made it sound like Duran is a bad guy.

Nauci/Vars have become confusing with their vote swings and it's ridiculous that a claimed investigative is being voted. I could see town keys investigating creat on n1. if I was investigative I would check him too after his scummy posts. Extremely unfortunate that creat ended up being killed, which was as unexpected as irrel's death (whoever killed them, I want to know why post game).

Anyway, I've made it clear who I believe is scum.

[skitter30]

@mod: if a player had a killing role, but their kill flavor was *not* bullets, and a gunsmith investigated said player, what result would the gunsmith receive?

i asked this yesterday but i think krazy didn't see it

[Nauci]

He was on a plane at the time I think

maybe just PM about it

[Nauci]

@Shoshin: what do you think of keyser now?

[skitter30]

I'm not sure what is even being said here. "It feels like I'm town but then probably not?"

idk
my gut says you aren't the right lynch rn and that you aren't groupscum, even though objectively you've been kinda scummy

i try to listen to my gut, especially when deciding who to lynch, because it's sometimes better at figuring out what's right than i am consciously

ie during lylo i pretty much always listen to my gut when deciding where to vote and sometimes voting person a feels wrong so i just don't vote them; this method, although imprecise and not really something i can articulate, works very well for me; i think i've gotten xylo wrong like once since i've started playing

and that same gut that tells me who's the wrong vote in lylo says you're not the right vote rn

don't think i can explain better

despite that you're kinda objectively scummy so like i won't complain too much i guess if you get lynched because you prob need to be resolved through lylo

i don't think i'll vote you but like i won't prevent it from happening

[skitter30]

He was on a plane at the time I think

maybe just PM about it

fair enough, fair enough; it was also buried in a wall

[Nauci]

The wiki made it sound like Duran is a bad guy.

It's a complex character who is basically a 3p creature

he's been confederate, a confederate traitor, and even an infested terran

[skitter30]

He was on a plane at the time I think

maybe just PM about it

fair enough, fair enough; it was also buried in a wall

yeah i sent a pm

[Nauci]

@varsoon I think we really need you to read mewtaph

[skitter30]

actually i'd vote performer over a no-lynch

he's just not my optimal lynch rn

[skitter30]

mewtaph is still my optimal lynch btw

[Varsoon]

I'm feeling really apathetic because I get criticized by someone regardless of what play I make and I think I really messed up if AlmostNancy is town here and I basically just gutted my own slot.

It's hard to get enthused.

[Varsoon]

@varsoon I think we really need you to read mewtaph

Can you direct me to certain posts?

[skitter30]

also i changed my mind and i'm now tending town on xtoxm

[skitter30]

@varsoon I think we really need you to read mewtaph

Can you direct me to certain posts?

the individual posts aren't particularly bad

they just holistically lack nuance or scumhunting

(and my theory that at least one of the players who were wagoned at eod yesterday are scum)

[Varsoon]

I feel like I've been jerked around so much.
I lowkey hate myself for outting my info.

VOTE: Mewtaph
I really don't like any of the people up for lynch, all for different reasons.
This game is just awful to me.
I'm probably going to quit mafia after this.

[skitter30]

VOTE: mewtaph

also

@mod: v/la till sunday; regular weekend v/la

[Varsoon]

I'll still probably mod but I think I'm awful at the actual game of mafia.
Like particularly game-throwingly bad.