Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]

Donempire · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:13 am

I dont care about my ass, i want this circlejerk to stop

Bambi Jay · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:15 am

Then murder Michael or something. That'll end the circlejerk.

LolWagons · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:15 am

In post 373, Donempire wrote:All gameyou jerked yourself off saying im the optimal lynch but you only shaded me. If you're not scum, you're weak. Kill me already i wont even put up a fight.

How the fuck am I weak? You’re the only one throwing shade. Hypocrite.

You literally just did it to OK and now, me.

This is simple. Dong doesn’t want to take any town stances on either Vt because he knows he has to set up another lynch tomorrow. He’s trying to just skate by until we ML Michael. OK is VERY UNLIKELY scum because he does not have this fear. This is the ultimate tell in this setup because it is all-or-nothing.

VOTE. THIS.

Clemency · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:15 am

you're better than i expected
even with that weird queens gambit accepted opening

Donempire · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:16 am

You're not bad yourself
Though there is a lot of latency on my part

Bambi Jay · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:17 am

No fuck that kill Michael, either end the game or let me 1 v 1 Clem.

Donempire · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:19 am

Its l-2 or something isnt it

Michael Scott · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:21 am

Auro and I may not completely agree on this at this point, but I still think lynching within the VT pool is absolutely the best way to approach this game as town. Again, it comes down to the numbers. If town mislynches a town lover pair on day one, then the town:scum ratio on day two is 4:3, which means if scum convinces just one townie to vote with them on day two, town loses the game. On the other hand, if town mislynches a VT on day one, then the town:scum ratio on day two is 5:3, which means if scum convinces one townie to vote with them on day two, then it's a 4 vs 4 battle to control the lynch, and as long as the four townies who have correctly gamesolved vote first, town can still win the game even with one townie having bad reads on day two (due to the plurality lynching rules this game follows). With a 4:3 ratio on day two, one townie having bad reads will cost town the game. It's that simple.

And to whichever pair out of {Bambi, Ruby} or {Clemency, Muh} is town: please understand this is

exactly

why the other pair is pushing for our lynch instead of a VT lynch. Because they understand the significant benefit to scum of having a 4:3 town:scum ratio on day two rather than a 5:3 town:scum ratio.

Auro and I are both strongly townreading LolWagons, which means from our point of view the VT scum is either Overkill or Dong. At the moment I would choose Overkill to lynch, but I won't change our slots vote until Auro and I discuss this more fully.

- Volxen (Date Mike)

LolWagons · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:24 am

Oh my god no. Dong first. And then that’ll be it. Because there won’t be a damn day 2.

Michael Scott · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:25 am

In post 371, LolWagons wrote:MS especially with the last page I’m still way more comfortable lynching between VTs.

Neither of these pairs are making me feel good and I’d rather get this right the first try.

I think OKs willingness to TR me makes him likely to be town (he isn’t setting up mislynches by trying to throw shade on me) and so Dong is still the best lynch today.

I (the Volxen head of Michael Scott) 100% agree with you on lynching a VT today.

- Volxen (Date Mike)

LolWagons · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:25 am

If you strong townread me you need to trust this read. I’m a damn good town player.

I’m willing to listen on why you think it’s OK over Dong but... that’s going to be an uphill battle.

Clemency · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:26 am

Donempire · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:27 am

LolWagons wrote:If you strong townread me you need to trust this read. I’m a damn good town player.

I’m willing to listen on why you think it’s OK over Dong but... that’s going to be an uphill battle.

In post 383, LolWagons wrote:Oh my god no. Dong first. And then that’ll be it. Because there won’t be a damn day 2.

Yawn
Keep trotting your own horn buddy

Bambi Jay · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:27 am

The lovers votes come in pairs bro. If we lynch a vt it's still basically the same thing as 3:4.

What happened to you being the "necessary sacrifice"? Fricken weird that that disappeared.

Clearly you don't want to lynch the pairs so I get to be scummy af now without repercussions: if we don't go through this plan and kill YOU, then I will only vote you tommorow. If Clem also agrees, well look where you are.

LolWagons · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:28 am

In post 387, Donempire wrote:
LolWagons wrote:If you strong townread me you need to trust this read. I’m a damn good town player.

I’m willing to listen on why you think it’s OK over Dong but... that’s going to be an uphill battle.
In post 383, LolWagons wrote:Oh my god no. Dong first. And then that’ll be it. Because there won’t be a damn day 2.
Yawn
Keep trotting your own horn buddy

^Ignores the substance of my argument and responds to less game-related points

because he knows he loses if we talk about his play

Donempire · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:30 am

I dont.
I lose if your ego is hurt though

But hey, you're good. Source: you. So it must be me

Donempire · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:31 am

In post 377, LolWagons wrote:
In post 373, Donempire wrote:All gameyou jerked yourself off saying im the optimal lynch but you only shaded me. If you're not scum, you're weak. Kill me already i wont even put up a fight.
How the fuck am I weak? You’re the only one throwing shade. Hypocrite.

You literally just did it to OK and now, me.

This is simple. Dong doesn’t want to take any town stances on either Vt because he knows he has to set up another lynch tomorrow. He’s trying to just skate by until we ML Michael. OK is VERY UNLIKELY scum because he does not have this fear. This is the ultimate tell in this setup because it is all-or-nothing.

VOTE. THIS.

I was the biggest voice against michael.
There, i responded to it. If you still cant see it you're an idiot.

LolWagons · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:32 am

In post 390, Donempire wrote:I dont.
I lose if your ego is hurt though
But hey, you're good. Source: you. So it must be me

Source: All the other town games I’ve played, soon to be including this one

LolWagons · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:33 am

In post 391, Donempire wrote:
In post 377, LolWagons wrote:
In post 373, Donempire wrote:All gameyou jerked yourself off saying im the optimal lynch but you only shaded me. If you're not scum, you're weak. Kill me already i wont even put up a fight.
How the fuck am I weak? You’re the only one throwing shade. Hypocrite.

You literally just did it to OK and now, me.

This is simple. Dong doesn’t want to take any town stances on either Vt because he knows he has to set up another lynch tomorrow. He’s trying to just skate by until we ML Michael. OK is VERY UNLIKELY scum because he does not have this fear. This is the ultimate tell in this setup because it is all-or-nothing.

VOTE. THIS.
I was the biggest voice against michael.
There, i responded to it. If you still cant see it you're an idiot.

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted. It does serve to buddy up with MS though.

Donempire · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:34 am

Buddy up with ms then mislynch him
3000 iq plays

Clemency · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:34 am

guys
stop arguing
just vote mike

LolWagons · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:36 am

In post 395, Clemency wrote:guys
stop arguing
just vote mike

NoOoOo

Michael Scott · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:36 am

So @Bambi and @Clemency, do either of you have a truly

legitimate

argument for why town shouldn't strive to have that 5:3 town:scum ratio on day two rather than a 4:3 town:scum ratio via lynching a claimed VT today rather than a claimed town lover pair?

Both of you have been shading our slot all game long for extremely bad reasons, and yet neither of you have made an

intelligent

argument as to why lynching a claimed town lover pair over a claimed VT is the optimal strategy that gives the town the greatest chance of winning the game on day two in the event that the day one lynch is a mislynch.

There is simply no logical reason to fight the strategy of lynching within the claimed VT pool as town.

- Volxen (Date Mike)

Donempire · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:36 am

Gg clem
That castle throw made me feel bad though

lets play sometime again

Clemency · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:38 am

In post 397, Michael Scott wrote:So @Bambi and @Clemency, do either of you have a truly
legitimate
argument for why town shouldn't strive to have that 5:3 town:scum ratio on day two rather than a 4:3 town:scum ratio via lynching a claimed VT today rather than a claimed town lover pair?

Both of you have been shading our slot all game long for extremely bad reasons, and yet neither of you have made an
intelligent
argument as to why lynching a claimed town lover pair over a claimed VT is the optimal strategy that gives the town the greatest chance of winning the game on day two in the event that the day one lynch is a mislynch.

There is simply no logical reason to fight the strategy of lynching within the claimed VT pool as town.

- Volxen (Date Mike)

we're not fighting any strategy
we're lynching scum
when there's a scumclaim, you don't keep voting vts, you vote the scumclaim