Hello. In this game I'll be introducing a computer language called Scheme, which has a very simple syntax that you can learn in a couple days. If you're using Linux you may already have Guile installed, in which case you're good to go. If you're on another system you might want to try another interpreter/compiler. Such as Ikarus for OSX or Chez Scheme on Windows
- Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself lynched if you try it.
Don't talk about ongoing games
- You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.
Animated GIFs
- are of the devil, but they are permitted behind spoilers if clearly labelled as such.
Tiny text
- is also of the devil, keep it 70+ please.
Provable randomness
- is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.
Claiming scum
- by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules.
- You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if everyone confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.
Days
- Day 1 lasts 10 days and other days last 7 days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements, or if the majority of players make it clear to me that an extension is desired.
Activity
- You must post at least once every 36 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 24 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. The activity timers run at half-speed on weekends. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.
Vacation/Limited Access
If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare
V/LA
in bold in the thread like this: [
b]
@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday
[
/b]. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
Prodging
- A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."
Quoting
- You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.
Voting
- Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Plotinus or
Vote: Plotinus
. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type [
v]Plotinus[
/v] to vote and [
uv]Plotinus[
/uv] to unvote.
Lynching
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no lynch, the day will end without a lynch. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no lynch.
Twilight
- Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.
Night
- Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.
Action submissions
- You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.
Reminders
- If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.
Play to win
- this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!
Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates one mafia role from the top of a column, and then two town roles from a row below the selected mafia role. The remaining six roles will be filled in by
All role PMs have been sent out (in the order of the signup list so timestamps mean nothing)! We will start in (expired on 2018-12-27 08:45:00) or when [8/9] people have confirmed, whichever happens sooner.
The above clock and any others used throughout this game will be accurate from the time you loaded the page.
At least one person wants to know if you need to download anything to play this game. The answer is no. In newbie games, and most other games on this site, the flavour is just for fun and you can ignore it entirely. Even in theme games, we try to make them playable to people who don't care about the flavour.
If you're not interested in learning an obscure programming language, then don't install anything and when reading the vote counts, just scroll down to the part outlined in red. That's where the votes will be.
Scheme is a dialect of Lisp, which stands for Lost In Stupid Parentheses. Just kidding, it stands for LISt Processor. Any good text editor can automatically make the parentheses be different colours so you don't get lost.
In Scheme, everything has something that it is and something that it does. For example,
+
is a procedure named
+
. It takes an optional amount of numbers, and what it does is add those numbers together. When you're writing your own procedures, it's important to give them really obvious names like
+
so that it's obvious what your procedure actually does.
This tells me that + is a procedure named + that takes an optional list of operands, and that 1 and 2 are (integers) named 1 and 2.
If I want to learn the sum of 1 and 2, I need to put it in parentheses. An open parentheses means "evaluate this procedure" and a close parentheses shows Scheme where the procedure and its operands ends.
You now know almost everything you need to know about scheme's syntax: Open parentheses: evaluating a thing. Lack of parentheses: referring to the thing by name.
You might notice that the command is
(+ 1 2)
not
(1 + 2)
. This is called Polish notation and it means the procedure always goes first and then everything after that are the things the procedure is working on. A benefit of Polish notation is that instead of writing
(2 *
(1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6)
)
you can write
(* 2
(+ 1 2 3 4 5 6)
)
.
Mod notes:
Good luck everyone!
Water Guard and Cyndiac never opened the role PMs I sent them. They are replaced by ZombieStriker and Dell respectively.
ZombieStrikes and Dell have another (expired on 2018-12-29 08:45:00) to confirm before they too will be replaced.
Please take a moment to familiarise yourselves with my ruleset because I have some rules you may not have encountered in other games before regarding animated gifs, tiny text, prodging and perhaps some other things.[/area]
I don’t know what happened back in your day, but according to Highlander there can be only one elephant avi, and I kinda think it goes to the guy whose username is irrelephant.
On that note, you should all get Avis - it is a courtesy form of “facial recognition” for posts. And you should also kindly answer these questions:
1. What is your experience at Mafia
2. How do you play as town
3. How do you play as scum
4. What do you think gives away a player as scum or town
In post 7, teacher wrote:1. What is your experience at Mafia
2. How do you play as town
3. How do you play as scum
4. What do you think gives away a player as scum or town
1. RL years ago; appr 13 forum games in the last year.
2. I effort obv!town (but have a lot less time during the school year)
3. I effort obv!town (see above).
4. Motivations, probabilities, and associations. For each post, I try to ascertain the motive behind it. Does it seem town-motivated or scum-motivated. To be sure, both town and scum have similar objectives, but they arent overlapping. Town is not as afraid of being lynched, because there will be a mislynch at some point; scum knows that their death is 50% of a loss. Town wants to out real analysis to advance the game; scum wants to repeat information that everybody knows so they can appear to be helping without actually doing it. Another key area of difference is in probabilities. Here, I cant say it much better than a strategy article from the Wiki (link). I'll speak more on associations tomorrow if Im still kicking.
1. I'm new
2.I guess I'd listen to everyone else and make no accusations.
3. I guess I'd stay quiet
4. I think scum usually puts a lot of accusations, whereas most town will be quiet
1. A couple years ago I played frequently. I took a hiatus and just came back.
2. As town I like to post often and seriously. I ask questions and pressure players who are inactive or anti-town. I'm not afraid to take a stand if I disagree with the way others are reading the game. Activity lessens if my RL is busy.
3. As scum I try to play my town-game.
4. This depends on the player, and I'd rather not give specific answers to this and help out scum who may be in their first game.
In post 10, dicideaq wrote:1. I'm new
2.I guess I'd listen to everyone else and make no accusations.
3. I guess I'd stay quiet
4. I think scum usually puts a lot of accusations, whereas most town will be quiet
Wow talk about scum claiming in your first post! Get 'em boys.
I don’t know what happened back in your day, but according to Highlander there can be only one elephant avi, and I kinda think it goes to the guy whose username is irrelephant.
On that note, you should all get Avis - it is a courtesy form of “facial recognition” for posts. And you should also kindly answer these questions:
1. What is your experience at Mafia
2. How do you play as town
3. How do you play as scum
4. What do you think gives away a player as scum or town
1. RL, I suck at anything involving bluffing but several years. Here, I was allowed to join a 26 person game (yay nepotism) and then made it to the end and died to the hands of FlavorLeaf and what even happened.
2. Terribly.
3. Terribly.
4. Well, given that I 360-headshotted the WRONG PERSON in the last game I think trusting your gut is important. Looking for inconsistencies is important. Seeing if people show their hand too early is also important (although still voted the WRONG PERSON)
To be honest, my motto is trust the people who’re trying their best and wait until people start dying.
Also hi Clemency I’m excited to actually play with you! Kinda sad last game.
Also how important are avatars, @Teacher? This is the problem with dating Cerberus.
oh right, amzela, you were in overkill 2 (i think)
i highly recommend you get an avatar simply because it helps accentuate your personality and the type of playstyle you want to convey
also it's good on the eyes
"all due respect, the words "Clemency" and "normal" do not belong in the same paragraph" - the worst
In post 19, Loopdan wrote:Amzela, why aren't you voting for obvscum dici?
Because as a newbie, picking on the newbies is mean and even though we're in RVSing no need to scare people away.
On that note. VOTE: Loopdan
Clemency wrote:oh right, amzela, you were in overkill 2 (i think)
i highly recommend you get an avatar simply because it helps accentuate your personality and the type of playstyle you want to convey
also it's good on the eyes
I was I was!
Time to break off and do my own thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.
Also, how does it convey playstyle?
