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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:05 am

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BTW, I didn't miss your post, DE. I'm just digesting it. I'm not sure how to read you.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:09 am

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@DE I don't like asking about reads on myself. I think it lacks style. But in this instance your read progression on me might be really telling.

Can you talk about how your read on me has evolved over the course of this game, and why?
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:36 am

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vote count 1.18


foodcoats
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L-5
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YyottaCat
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L-4
: Elements
Elements
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Nauci
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: u r a person 2, GuiltyLion, Dongempire
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: foodcoats, YyottaCat
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not voting
: Nauci, PvtUrist

This phase will end in (expired on 2018-12-29 16:30:00) or sooner if a majority lynch is achieved.

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reading this vote count

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1 the player who this line of the vote count refers to.
2 the number of votes currently on this player.
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:42 am

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seeing as my vote on yyotta isn't going anywhere and the wagons are just on Pvt and dong

PvtUrist


as i townread dong significantly more due to their intense analysis on Pvt having made very much sense and it having swayed me to their line of thought
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:43 am

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vote: PvtUrist


is what i meant
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:55 am

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In post 303, foodcoats wrote:Welcome Nauci!

What do you think it was about Scantius that got him scumread? Why are you not scum?
Hi!

1: haven't caught up yet; don't know

2: my role pm says I'm town
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:56 am

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In post 329, Elements wrote:
vote: PvtUrist


is what i meant
That's a L-1 vote

Careful, y'all
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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:33 am

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In post 330, Nauci wrote:1: haven't caught up yet
It would be neat if you could catch up sooner rather than later, it being close to eod and all. It would be useful to have your opinions on things and stuff. =)
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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:10 pm

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In post 34, GuiltyLion wrote:And if you find yourself getting frustrated or upset with what people are saying, take a break from the game for a few hours and come back with a cooler head.
Or be like me and vent by sending sass reactions to the mod :lol:

Also: if you highlight a portion of a post and then hit quote, it will only quote that portion

Don't be like me and take 10 months before learning that :)
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:07 pm

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okay so we have one day left and not many viable alternatives to PvtUrist. PvtUrist if you're town you need to get in here, be ready to claim if you get intent to hammer placed on you, and really try to push somebody else to be lynched instead.

Nauci where are you? :(
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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:50 pm

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In post 52, Scantius wrote:If you really think that I am scum, vote. Pressure this early is not preferable, but if you feel that you need a reaction and more information, vote.
I can't figure out what half of my predecessor's posts mean

But hey I appreciate the amount of interaction he stirred up

Thanks buddeh
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:57 pm

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In post 68, YyottaCat wrote:ti
You are
on
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A simple organism can't have a happy life in this world.
Did this weird

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Thing ever actually get explained or do something o_o
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:04 pm

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In post 89, GuiltyLion wrote:Seems like he's trying to be as flexible as possible with how he wants to read Scantius later.
If the change in reads were in separate statements, then yeah

But having 3 different reads in the span of 1 paragraph is generally a pretty good sign of town live posting their train of thought, imo
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 95, foodcoats wrote:I definitely think GL's attack on me is townie
I don't
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:43 pm

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ugh Nauci if you're going to scumread me can we just agree to hash it out D2?
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:43 pm

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In post 104, Donempire wrote:There is also a reason why he is reserved: some random guy will tear everything he says into pieces, take it out of context, piss on its and its familys grave and then litter it. I wonder who that guy might be?????????? (its you)
Flair for the dramatic here, eh?
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:27 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 148, foodcoats wrote:
In post 103, u r a person 2 wrote: You say that yyotta's play is flipped from our last game. If you mean that in that game she was not posting at all and in this game she is posting more than nothing, then I agree.

But the content coming from Yyotta's posts is disconnected from the game - Her initial scum read of scantius makes assertions that are not backed up in the thread, etc.

Other content from her this game seems down right trolly. I'm not saying I can read the slot. I'm saying she's playing a very anti-town game, and I think it would be pro town to remove the slot from the game well before lylo. Obviously, if we have a super scummy candidate at the end of the day I would rather lynch that. Absent that I'll be pushing for a policy lynch.

That said, I don't want to get bogged down in a discussion of Yyotta until a) she starts contributing in a meaningful way or b) the deadline is closer.
I spent some time thinking about this, specifically because you pointed out that a policy lynch discussion may not be valuable right now, but I really disagree with you here and think it's important we discuss Yyotta earlier.

Yyotta is a player who just always looks scummy. Her posts are cryptic and ineffable, and she generally spends more time defending herself than doing anything remotely resembling scum hunting. I absolutely agree that this is not pro-town behaviour, because until Yyotta learns more or changes her playstyle, she doesn't contribute much to town.

However, I think that the evidence actually points to Yyotta being town here. I am basically 100% relying on Yyotta's other games, because her actual posts are largely indecipherable. But if you compare her activity trend with a known alignment and then look at her game so far here, she is playing more as she does as town than she does as scum.

With this in mind, and the fact that 7/9ths of the time she is town, a policy lynch is not just "not pro-town," but possibly anti-town. Yyotta is so easy to lynch and there are already multiple people who have said they would be willing to lynch her; it's ridiculously easy for scum to blend into a policy lynch, meaning we'd enter D2 with almost no valuable information.

I said above that my general feeling toward lynch the lurker/policy lynching is definitely changing as I play more games, but in the case of Yyotta, I don't like the idea at all. I tend to think that Elements' suggestion that lurkers should be sorted out on D2 is much better in this case. At that point we should have better reads on people through voting patterns and whatever nighttime activities occur.


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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:05 pm

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Dear Doge, if I'm reading you right, say I was drunk off my ass and tunneling another townie, you'd town-read me for it? If so, you really should've been there for my last game.
In post 323, Donempire wrote:"We found a worthy sacrifice! He was found sitting on a fence, but other than that, he is perfectly fine."
VOTE: PvtUrist
Alright, besides "fence sitting" and we being close to the deadline, what other factors is there to prove me guilty?
In post 318, Donempire wrote:fungus
I don't even.

To be honest, the Doge is (partially) right. I haven't been paying enough attention and have been making half-arsed posts. I didn't want to become overly obsessed and aggressive like last time, but I guess I haven't been playing well this time either.

I can see why the wagon's on me; I'm currently the most "scummy" (I see why) and we need a lynch before the deadline. I'll understand if the D1 lynch's on me, but it wouldn't be correct.

Honestly, I wasn't sure of my reads until now (my reads were either lean-town or null).

Doge's seems fine from a glance. Pushing the biggest suspect before the deadline, adding flare for reasons I don't know. Though the more I've read it, the more it feels like Scum!Doge coming out of lurk to push a easy lynch to earn Town Points than Town!Doge really believing me to be scum. The flare doesn't help either, I'd feel calling someone a fungus feels more like a projection than anything else.

VOTE: DongEmpire

No "fence sitting" from me this time around.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:33 pm

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Should I hammer?
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:35 pm

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VOTE: PvtUrist
Sorry but I have to
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:36 pm

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And then it's my turn to get lynched.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:37 pm

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Lol
Guess we are going to have to hold out the policy lynch
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:40 pm

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Well, i cant blame you. In retrospect this is the least scummy thing you've done all game. Which speajs volumes. All i can do at this point is pray. Do know you fucked up our opportunity to fimd his scumpartner by hammerimg early.

No time to blame. We'll discuss this tomorrow
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:43 pm

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Was that a hammer? Really? Huh.
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:44 pm

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In post 339, GuiltyLion wrote:ugh Nauci if you're going to scumread me can we just agree to hash it out D2?
I hope I don't get shot

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