[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

[Malakitty]

Thor665 (L-3)

: Creature, rb, Nako

rb (L-5)

: Thor665

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Egix96

Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

Leodanny, Malakitty, DarkLightA, Lamees,
Something_Smart

You could be scum if rb isn't, Thor could be scum

I'd like you to talk more about why I could be scum if RB isn't, and how you think Thor could be scum.

Idk how you can’t see that Thor isn’t anything but scum

[Creature]

I'm having trouble identifying town!you, Mala

[Auro]

Idk how you can’t see that Thor isn’t anything but scum

Thor's been a scumspect for me for a long time, I'm just interested to see why others think so.
I've pointed out things that he's done that look scummy through my interactions, including his seeming encouragement of the cop check and the recent "dictate the kill?" conversation baiting and a few other things.

I'm not very impressed by Creature's own reasons.

Can you describe your reasons for why Thor can't be "anything but scum"?

[Creature]

I'm having trouble identifying town!you, Mala

and she keeps going missing after just one post :/

[Auro]

@Mala: I'm not moving my vote till there's significant content from you. I feel that the wagon compositions of both counterwagons to you are scum-indicative for you, in addition to other weaker reasons I posted earlier and lack of D2 content.

@Creature: Is Malakittens easy to read? That's definitely not the impression I had of her with her banner.

[Lamees]

Yeah let's get a wagon going here. Only way for content. Worked day 1.

VOTE: malakitty

[Creature]

VOTE: Malakitty

I have no idea what the VC is though

[Egix96]

VOTE: Malakitty

I have no idea what the VC is though

At the top of p59 she was at L-5 apparently.
Want me to vote her too?

[Egix96]

nvm that's a stupid question

UNVOTE: DLA

My vote is on Mala in spirit. I'll vote her for real once I know exactly how many votes she has. Don't wanna risk a lolhammer or anything.

[Something_Smart]

I'd like you to talk more about why I could be scum if RB isn't, and how you think Thor could be scum.

Your content, particularly your votes and pushes, haven't been that impressive. Especially if rb is town, you've treated the slot very much as a person you'd like to mislynch without getting too much of the blame. But if he is scum, then that cop TMI comment never comes from scum-you.

It's very hard to articulate why I feel Thor is scum. I feel like despite all his arguing and loudness he hasn't done much for the town, but he also hasn't gotten much pressure despite people saying they didn't like him. I don't know. I hate to say "gut" because I know it's a useless explanation... it's more like, given the way the game has been going, holistically it would make a lot of sense if he were scum.

[Malakitty]

I'm having trouble identifying town!you, Mala

and she keeps going missing after just one post :/

Part of me wishes that the Joat didn’t ducking claim Vt and I would have been lynched bc it’s not like my role is at all important

Like losing that role was like a kick in the face and made me lose what little motivation I had (which wasn’t much to begin with)

[Malakitty]

I have said mutilple times why thor is scum.

He hasn’t been acting himself from old town!thor games.
He’s having a conversation with Auro and it doesn’t even appear to be going anywhere and feels like noise.
I don’t really feel like he has town agenda because I feel like he’s not as transparent as he used to be.
He really hasn’t done much imo (I know it’s like calling the pot kettle black)

[Malakitty]

Gut is telling me one of thor and Auro are scum though. Thor is more likely of the two

Is this because of our exchanges, or an independent gut-read? Is it possible for you to explain the gut-read, or why you feel so?
Can we talk about the rest of my case?

I don’t like Thor’s posting. I feel like the back and forth between you is a distraction. Plus I already mentioned Thor isn’t playing as what I remember from him. He’s states he’s casing you but I feel like he really isn’t trying to convince people to wagon you which bothers me

We can talk about the case but I actually want to read it on a computer. I have my computer rn on the rig, but I’m so exhausted

[Malakitty]

VOTE: thor

Maybe when I flip town everyone can pull their head out of butts and actually lynch scum.

[Malakitty]

I'm having trouble identifying town!you, Mala

Eh, it’s there. Just not blantly obv because I got no effort in me at the moment

[Creature]

VOTE: Thor

[Auro]

Part of me wishes that the Joat didn’t ducking claim Vt and I would have been lynched bc it’s not like my role is at all important

You're a PR? Why is it unimportant?

[rb]

probably just means VT

[rb]

He’s having a conversation with Auro and it doesn’t even appear to be going anywhere and feels like noise.

ok but isn't this how thor always sounds?

[Auro]

I can empathize with Mala's motivation loss after Dunn's VT claim, but she seems more deflect-y here, just like in D1. Although I do believe Thor holds quite a lot of scum equity, as I pointed out before it's probably easy to scumread an active player. I also don't like how Mala made out my interactions with Thor as TvS, without actually commenting on the content within those interactions themselves, as though setting me up for a lynch if Thor flips town.

I think she's been following an agenda through her posts. She was off when it was RB/DLA being wagoned, and now when Thor has a wagon on him and she's pushed for content, she deflects to Thor.

I'm happy with either being lynched, to be fair - I'm not impressed by Nako at all, but I think the added association info we gain by either of the two lynches is good.

Thor flipping red should probably clear Mala because I see absolutely no reason in distancing/bussing right from D1, and should also clear RB because Thor bussing RB while RB's townread significantly doesn't make sense either.

Mala flipping red should clear Thor/Lamees and narrow down the pool to S_S/Egix/RB from D1 interactions.

VOTE: Thor
L-1 I think.

[Egix96]

Part of me wishes that the Joat didn’t ducking claim Vt and I would have been lynched bc it’s not like my role is at all important

You're a PR? Why is it unimportant?

Rolefishing.

[Auro]

Not empty, I want her lynched.

[Egix96]

Open question:
Which game is Thor playing more like - Newbie 1893, or Paris Mafia?

pedit: I wasn't meaning to imply it was an empty question.

[Auro]

I wasn't meaning to imply it was an empty question.

I read it as - you have a problem with me wanting Mala to claim, and find it scummy.
I think she's likely scum, and want her lynched.
I'm maintaining that I still want her to if she's a PR, and tell us why it's unimportant instead of dodging it.

So explain why you think it's scummy, as I infer you are?

[Auro]

Which game is Thor playing more like - Newbie 1893, or Paris Mafia?

Can you link to the game?
I think Thor's style is such that it's hard to establish any significant tells from other games, my scumread on him is mostly from things in this game.

Look at his continued attacks on me. He got me from a townlean to a "top scumspect" on *one* question he kept insisting was empty, and my attempts to clarify. He accused me of another "empty question" which I objectively disproved, and turned it into a "but you didn't follow up with me" attack which he himself retracted. Again, attacked me for "complaining" about Nako when I said she needs more attention, when I clearly already had called out her active lurking. That's a *lot* of shade thrown at my slot, and terribly weak.

Did you read the interactions? What do you make of his attacks?