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i'll take that as a compliment
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you should have known this was coming when Loopdan showed up in the newb Q
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Clem plz explain your calculated play in the early game or point to where you've already explained.In post 313, Clemency wrote:the reason i flaked a lot is because i took the game super serious without realising i'm garbage at it so i just got scumread every game and felt helpless about it
the way i play rniscalculated-
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lolIn post 371, Clemency wrote:a50 and clemency vs lolwagons and persivul
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has this been explained yet?In post 399, Almost50 wrote:1- Against my better judgement, I'm going to take Egix out of my scum pool and put him at the bottom of my Town pile. DO NOT ASK for an explicit explanation. You won't get one at this time. (If you want one, do your own homework)-
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how in the hell did you get RoS to L-2 and end up lynching LolWagon after this defense???
In post 465, ReaperOfSouls wrote:
What am I making a defense for again? For adding my vote to a inactive slot when asked?In post 451, Persivul wrote:
What legitimate defense had Reaper made at that point?In post 392, Gnelf wrote:I am still suspicious of Clemency, besides snarkily posting wikipedia he hasn't make a legitimate defense
For being the target of the replacement for said inactive slot, merely for playing the same way I always play? (And when I say always, I mean in the few games I have played here.)
Where's the same out front town Persivul that is in everyone's face busting everyone's chops talking himself into circles and out of his own reads?
Not saying anything other then exactly what I am saying but Clemency plays in this range. Fluff and nothing. It takes a few to figure out if there is substance behind his slot or not. Almost50 seems pretty close to same I have had experience with(again limited.) Most I haven't played with before.-
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1st why are you answering a question i never asked?In post 766, 0verki11 wrote:
Im here now. The reason i dont want to lynch Gnelf is that I cant see a new player are scum do that kind if Gambit.In post 750, TTTT wrote:I'm here
2nd Gnelf is a three-headed hydra so "new player" notsomuch
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tell me I'm not the only one who realized overkill didn't move out of RVS until becoming the 5th vote on LolWagons
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Sure, I null read the orginal player but LoL is doing some strange tunnel and not explaining anything.In post 347, Clemency wrote:^just vote this
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i don't think imma gonna do thatIn post 778, Almost50 wrote:@TTTT: When you're done catching up, I'd appreciate a full read list with reasoning. (You don't have to write essays. Just 1-3 sentences for each slot will do). Thanks in advance.
my notes are my notes until the time is right to share
this is what you get for nowIn post 774, TTTT wrote:i think we find scum here:
Egix
Clem
Overkill
RoS
A50
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OK, so does whatever made you move Egix from scum pile to town pile back on day1 still apply right now or have you moved past this? This is so important to me that I'm capitalizing and punctuating.In post 772, Almost50 wrote:
Not yet, but if you can't decipher it yourself then you don't need to take it into account.In post 770, TTTT wrote:
has this been explained yet?In post 399, Almost50 wrote:1- Against my better judgement, I'm going to take Egix out of my scum pool and put him at the bottom of my Town pile. DO NOT ASK for an explicit explanation. You won't get one at this time. (If you want one, do your own homework)-
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In post 786, TTTT wrote:I'm voting overkill or Egix today unless someone gives me really good reasons not to
cards on the table I prefer this...In post 787, TTTT wrote:I think Egix is at L-2 but not voting until I know fo sho
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notes on overkill:
139 - overkill with lazy questioning that looks like scum trying to remain active. asking A50 why he was convinced to vote Shema, then A50 answers with a smilie and there's zero follow-up from overkill
222 - overkill kinda defends gamma and a50 from Persivul’s 206
352 - overkill - TERRIBLE vote on LOLwagon. was overkills first vote since RVS and overkill's entire reason is "Sure, I null read the orginal player but LoL is doing some strange tunnel and not explaining anything." opportunistic 5th vote on LOL that looks fabricated
384 - overkill - what the heck bro nobody is talking about you why are you asking to be meta’d??
689 - overkill says Gnelf is definitely town -- overkills says "I might not be exactly new, but im still not good either" back in 185 but that's inconsistent with this total lack of paranoia over a possible Gnelf fake-claim
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Attention A50 your presence is requested back at post 788In post 788, TTTT wrote:
OK, so does whatever made you move Egix from scum pile to town pile back on day1 still apply right now or have you moved past this? This is so important to me that I'm capitalizing and punctuating.In post 772, Almost50 wrote:
Not yet, but if you can't decipher it yourself then you don't need to take it into account.In post 770, TTTT wrote:
has this been explained yet?In post 399, Almost50 wrote:1- Against my better judgement, I'm going to take Egix out of my scum pool and put him at the bottom of my Town pile. DO NOT ASK for an explicit explanation. You won't get one at this time. (If you want one, do your own homework)-
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i can't read your mind and there are other reasons for changing reads that don't involve ongoing games and you brought it up so don't put that one me chucky.In post 807, Almost50 wrote::ole, I said back then not to talk about it, and I repeated it when you asked the first time. Are you trying to get me booted off the game??
it coulda been crumbs, softing, etc.
this is important bc you voted Egix at day2 start when Gnelf acted like there was a guilty but you didn't seem to have any hesitation about the vote
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you are liarIn post 808, Almost50 wrote:This guy (TTTT) is SCUM. First, he won't reveal anything about his reads even when I explained why I wanted him to do.
you wanted full reads after i already named a scumpool
you aren't the boss of me
I'll lynch either one if it comes to itIn post 808, Almost50 wrote:Then he starts a wagon on someone new. I dunno if he's distancing with a p in 0verki11 or trying to save a p in Egix (and I have them both at the bottom of my reads currently, along with TTTT himself).
see last postIn post 808, Almost50 wrote:Then he pretends not to understand what 11 other people got the first time and stopped talking about.-
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Don't want this lost in the recent mess...In post 784, TTTT wrote:things I'm thinking about that others can help me with:
is a careless A50 AI? share meta if it's relevant cuz he keeps making careless mistakes
is anybody TRing Overkill or is he just skating by bc everybody was distracted by shiny objects? by shiny I mean RoS and Gnelf-
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In post 814, Almost50 wrote:
I don't want a bloody scum pool. ANYONE can come up with a 5-person list and say scum is in that pool. It'sIn post 811, TTTT wrote:you wanted full reads after i already named a scumpoolhow you reached that conclusionthat matters most to me.
1. I haven't cleared anybodyIn post 815, Almost50 wrote:@TTTT: You said you can't read my mind. Why do you think I can read yours? Like, maybe you know something I don't, or maybe you faked a read list. How am I supposed to tell if I don't see how you got there and why you cleared X, Y & Z?
2. 804 is how I got to my current vote
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In post 774, TTTT wrote:i think we find scum here:
Egix
Clem
Overkill
RoS
A50
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least confident about A50 and ClemEgix96 wrote:<<SNIP>>
Aorn ROS is my main suspect but I'm fine with lynching A50 or T4 instead.-
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A50 is just manufacturing shit. There is no real intent to sort my slot it's just dump your reads and you're scum if you don't
which is stupid AF and exactly what scum would want an experienced player who is replacing into a game to do -- dump all their thoughts so they'll know how to play them
A50 has done only 2 things day2:
1) setup spec that as far as I can tell has been useless
2) annoy me with demands to posts all my reads, without even asking me asinglequestion about what I've already posted
^this is literally true do check his ISO
I posted a rather large scumpool early on that includes A50. one would think there might be some follow-up to do with the replacement player on that. But no. A50 demands all my reads and my thoughts behind them. that's scummy as hell.
I posted my notes on overkill after I voted. One would think there might be questions about that post. But no. A50 acts like it never happened, tries to manufacture drama over 788 (which he still hasn't answered even though he could without breaking rules about ongoing games), and votes me. that's scummy as hell.-
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Stop playing dumb, A50.
You had some sort of secret reason (which is verboten due to the rule about ongoing games) that made you pretty sure he wasn't scum.
day1 Gnelf is run up to L-1 in the space of one page basically for being inactive.
Gnelf hardclaims cop.
At start of day2 Gnelf acted like there was a guilty on Egix.
You immediately voted Egix.
And then spend the next few pages on stupid set-up speculation.
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Looking back at some stuff...
Persivul last stated he wanted a Gnelf lynch
Maria and LolWagons both said in twilight they wanted an A50 lynch today
I really hate how the wagon moved off of RoS yesterday, bounced super fast to Gnelf (forcing a claim), and then settling on Lolwagons. I think there were some scum votes on RoS that never intended on lynching him.
@Gamma - can you provide me with your Clem read ATM <--- that means at the moment-
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FYI - I'm not accusing A50 of breaking that ruleIn post 830, davesaz wrote:I haven't noticed anything specific, but I'll call your attention to the recent updates to the ongoing games rule, which are found in the 2nd post here.
I was making clear that I understand it's forbidden for us to discuss his reasoning behind his Egix read-change-
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Is this also true for game-solving?In post 835, Almost50 wrote:I don't get paranoid as either alignment.
Because the only way you are town here is if you never game-solve as either alignment.-
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It's only an ad hominem if he is town.In post 843, Clemency wrote:spicy ad hominem-
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I like the way your tri-head is thinking hereIn post 840, Gnelf wrote:Well here is how I'm thinking about the game.
We had near deadline two competing wagons, Lol and Reaper. Reaper gets pushed up to L1, reaper spews.
Then I get CFD'd, within the span of a few hours, which is glaringly suspicious because this game has been plagued by activity concerns and slow building of wagons. I claim cop, wagon dissolves.
Then we turn back to Reaper and Lol again, but this time rather than returning to a Reaper lynch, Lolwagons gets pushed up.
Which makes me think that all this effort was to prevent a Reaper flip. Reaper flip incriminates Clemency as well because he was the breaking point to make the Reaper wagon inferior to the Lol wagon.
If Reaper is town though, then we have to look back further and consider A50/Egix/Clemency stuff.
I hate hydras on principle but this post makes me hate them slightly less-
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A50 - let's play a game. Imagine that I am suddenly mod-confirmed town.In post 838, Almost50 wrote:Personally, I'd rather TTTT over anyone else. I acknowledge I suspect both Egix/0verki11, but -as I said before- I don't know which of them is TTTT's p. TTTT voting 0verki11 may have been distancing on a p he thought a lynch would never go through on, or it could be starting a new wagon on Town to try and save a p (Egix). It's unlikely that it's both, so in my mind one of 0verki11/Egix is scum and the other is Town. TTTT is the common factor and is scum either way.
Who would you encourage me to vote from this list:
Egix
Overkill
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oh come onIn post 875, Gamma Emerald wrote: Ew.
just bc I like interacting with someone doesn't mean I have to townread them
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@Overkill - you haven't voted or contributed anything useful so far day2
This is literally everything you've said about the game day2:In post 689, 0verki11 wrote:Gnelf is definitly town here, im not vote them.-
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i like to quote myself when I've said something smart and nobody tells me how smart I amIn post 831, TTTT wrote: I really hate how the wagon moved off of RoS yesterday, bounced super fast to Gnelf (forcing a claim), and then settling on Lolwagons. I think there were some scum votes on RoS that never intended on lynching him.
I'm insecure that way-
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A50 is either scumIn post 921, Clemency wrote:because a50's voting tttt and i'm leaning town on a50 this game
i also sheep a lot in general
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town with demonstrably shitty reads
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