Mini 2039: uPicketyPicketyPick Mafia Endgame

[northsidegal]

nibbui i don't think you should feel obligated to replace out just because you can't put insane effort into this game when i don't think it's really necessary right now. yeah the game is a bit slow right now, but that's because we're waiting for the minigames and because of the holidays.

either way, i hope you'll stay in, though i understand if you don't.

[northsidegal]

@Maria/Kokichi

do you think NK15’s play is similar to Excalibur? I kiiiinda feel that way and want a second opinion

Hell yes it's one of the main reasons I sr him but I couldn't say shit until now LOL

nk15 had 5 posts in that game total. seeing that he was scum in that game was, if i recall correctly, one of the things that made me start to think he was town and remember to check his scumgames to see if he could replicate how he was playing here.

what kind of similarities are you (maria or gamma) possibly seeing?

[Kokichi Oma]

@Maria/Kokichi

do you think NK15’s play is similar to Excalibur? I kiiiinda feel that way and want a second opinion

Hell yes it's one of the main reasons I sr him but I couldn't say shit until now LOL

same. now lynch NK15.

[Elbirn]

That replaceout was not what I was expecting :/

[Gamma Emerald]

No I like this! Let’s discuss, evaluate the merits of each argument. I like our little thread split.

[ChibiBear]

Ok so I'd like to start off by thanking jjh for not kicking me out of the game, it's been a crazy week.

I swear to god I'm going to catch up and make an actual proper post before I leave the house tonight.

[ChibiBear]

Maria > Kokichi (assuming no IC reveal) > Gamma > Firebringer

Fixed.

Though I kinda wanna lynch Kokichi today tbh since I'm 90% sure they are lying about their claim.

Why the rush? This isn't like Varsoon's claim where he said he 'might' be confirmed IC at some point in the game, Kokichi is outright claiming that he can be confirmed IC tomorrow, so if he's lying, we can just lynch him with confidence tomorrow.

you were very nearly lynched during the night - to the point where you would be dead by now if FB's vote counted as 3. So why the hell would you fail to mention that you were an IC then?

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, Kokichi unlocked this role as a result of not making any night actions, so he didn't know he could be confirmed IC until the start of Day 2 right? Unless you have a better reason to invalidate his claim, I'm willing to give him the benefit of doubt for today.

[mutantdevle]

@mod sorry, replace me

Aww. For what it's worth, you're 'half-assed' playing of this game is still more effort than what a lot of people care to do. It's a shame because you were enjoyable to play with. There's also other things that you've left unexplained but it's nothing too major.

[mutantdevle]

@Maria/Kokichi

do you think NK15’s play is similar to Excalibur? I kiiiinda feel that way and want a second opinion

Hell yes it's one of the main reasons I sr him but I couldn't say shit until now LOL

HOW? You really need to explain more than this because the only thing I can conclude from that game is that he's bad at fake claiming which I knew anyway.

[mutantdevle]

@Maria/Kokichi

do you think NK15’s play is similar to Excalibur? I kiiiinda feel that way and want a second opinion

Hell yes it's one of the main reasons I sr him but I couldn't say shit until now LOL

same. now lynch NK15.

You also need to explain yourself Mr Fake IClaim.

[mutantdevle]

Why the rush? This isn't like Varsoon's claim where he said he 'might' be confirmed IC at some point in the game, Kokichi is outright claiming that he can be confirmed IC tomorrow, so if he's lying, we can just lynch him with confidence tomorrow.

If I

know

they're lying about their claim, why wouldn't I want them dead today?

Like I'm not desperate for their lynch right now, but I'm not opposed to it in any way.

One thing we do have to consider though is why would scum claim IC that they claim they can activate during the night? Answer: to get themselves one more night. The next question would then be why is that one last night so important?

[mutantdevle]

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, Kokichi unlocked this role as a result of not making any night actions, so he didn't know he could be confirmed IC until the start of Day 2 right? Unless you have a better reason to invalidate his claim, I'm willing to give him the benefit of doubt for today.

First of all, I'm under the impression from asking the mod about my own quest that quests are day things and can't be completed during the night. Secondly, what night ability does Kokichi actually have that warrants a quest to not perform it huh? The primary role they've claimed to us only activates upon winning a minigame.

So they don't even have a night ability to even perform.

So does that mean that their quest is essentially "hey, wait until night 2 and then you get this for free!". Think about that, Kokichi is basically claiming that their role is to become an IC on day 2 for free on top of a role that benefits from being let win all the minigames. Does that not sound incredibly fucking sketchy? So the options of what's going on here are A) He is lying about his role, B) The only night action that he could possibly have in order to not perform one for the quest is the factional kill (which means he is lying about his role anyway), or C) The mod is bad at game design. It doesn't take a lot to see that Kokichi is lying here.

[Kokichi Oma]

@Maria/Kokichi

do you think NK15’s play is similar to Excalibur? I kiiiinda feel that way and want a second opinion

Hell yes it's one of the main reasons I sr him but I couldn't say shit until now LOL

same. now lynch NK15.

You also need to explain yourself Mr Fake IClaim.

Nk15 is sided with the mafia.

[mutantdevle]

Why are you still avoiding the fact that you are blatantly lying about your role?

[Elbirn]

Why the rush? This isn't like Varsoon's claim where he said he 'might' be confirmed IC at some point in the game, Kokichi is outright claiming that he can be confirmed IC tomorrow, so if he's lying, we can just lynch him with confidence tomorrow.

If I

know

they're lying about their claim, why wouldn't I want them dead today?

Like I'm not desperate for their lynch right now, but I'm not opposed to it in any way.

One thing we do have to consider though is why would scum claim IC that they claim they can activate during the night? Answer: to get themselves one more night. The next question would then be why is that one last night so important?

1. How do you *know* hes lying?
2. How do you not want him turbolynched if you know that hes lying?

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, Kokichi unlocked this role as a result of not making any night actions, so he didn't know he could be confirmed IC until the start of Day 2 right? Unless you have a better reason to invalidate his claim, I'm willing to give him the benefit of doubt for today.

First of all, I'm under the impression from asking the mod about my own quest that quests are day things and can't be completed during the night. Secondly, what night ability does Kokichi actually have that warrants a quest to not perform it huh? The primary role they've claimed to us only activates upon winning a minigame.

So they don't even have a night ability to even perform.

So does that mean that their quest is essentially "hey, wait until night 2 and then you get this for free!". Think about that, Kokichi is basically claiming that their role is to become an IC on day 2 for free on top of a role that benefits from being let win all the minigames. Does that not sound incredibly fucking sketchy? So the options of what's going on here are A) He is lying about his role, B) The only night action that he could possibly have in order to not perform one for the quest is the factional kill (which means he is lying about his role anyway), or C) The mod is bad at game design. It doesn't take a lot to see that Kokichi is lying here.

1. My quest involved night phase
2. Actually wait all of this makes sense lmao

VOTE: Kokichi oma

[Gamma Emerald]

What’s Kokichi at votewise
And Kokichi, you have two options here: clear up the situation by claim which ability give you your IC, or not doing that and prolly getting lynched

[mutantdevle]

2. How do you not want him turbolynched if you know that hes lying?

If people think there's even the slightest chance that Kokichi really is an IC then there's nothing I can do about that. Besides, he's just going be lynched tomorrow anyway and I doubt the 1 extra night is going to benefit the scum team too much.

[mutantdevle]

What’s Kokichi at votewise

Just you and Elbrin. You can consider my vote to be on Kokichi too though.

[mutantdevle]

Ehh, may as well vote here actually.

VOTE: Kokichi Oma

My vote's got nowhere else to be.

[Gamma Emerald]

Im pretty sure my votes still on Nico

[Kokichi Oma]

Why are you still avoiding the fact that you are blatantly lying about your role?

I'm not.

[Kokichi Oma]

Imagine lynching the IC rofl. This website never ceases to amaze me

[Kokichi Oma]

What’s Kokichi at votewise
And Kokichi, you have two options here: clear up the situation by claim which ability give you your IC, or not doing that and prolly getting lynched

I already said by doing nothing. I've claimed that 3 times

[Elbirn]

Im pretty sure my votes still on Nico

Don't

[Gamma Emerald]

Imagine lynching the IC rofl. This website never ceases to amaze me

Does anyone remember what Kokichi said about Varsoon’s claim off the top of their head?