Newbie 1907 - game over!!

[the worst]

vote count 2.03

foodcoats

(0)

(L-4)

:

YyottaCat

(4)

==[]

: Dongempire, u r a person 2, Nauci, foodcoats

Elements

(0)

(L-4)

:

Nauci

(0)

(L-4)

:

u r a person 2

(0)

(L-4)

:

Dongempire

(0)

(L-4)

:

GuiltyLion

(0)

(L-4)

:

not voting

: YyottaCat, Nauci, GuiltyLion, Elements

This phase will end in (expired on 2019-01-06 18:00:00) or sooner if a majority lynch is achieved.

mod notes:

- quack

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Spoiler:

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L-3

³ : PenguinPower, a goose<sup>4

1</sup> the player who this line of the vote count refers to.
² the number of votes currently on this player.
³ the number of votes this player is away from being lynched (e.g. L-5 = 5 votes from a lynch; L-3 = 3 votes away from a lynch; L-1 = one vote away from a lynch, etc.)
⁴ list of the players who are voting the player in question.

[the worst]

YyottaCat was lynched.
She was a.........

Spoiler:

TOWN COP

[the worst]

It is now night two. Please submit any night actions you have before (expired on 2019-01-04 13:00:00)

[the worst]

Nobody has died!

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Day Three begins.

This phase will end in (expired on 2019-01-11 13:30:00) or sooner if a majority lynch is achieved.

[the worst]

vote count 3.00

foodcoats

(0)

(L-4)

:

Elements

(0)

(L-4)

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Nauci

(0)

(L-4)

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u r a person 2

(0)

(L-4)

:

Dongempire

(0)

(L-4)

:

GuiltyLion

(0)

(L-4)

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not voting

: foodcoats, Elements, Nauci, u r a person 2, Dongempire, GuiltyLion

This phase will end in (expired on 2019-01-11 13:30:00) or sooner if a majority lynch is achieved.

mod notes:

- Nauci is v/la til Saturday afternoon/Sunday.
- quack

reading this vote count

Spoiler:

the worst

¹ (2)²

L-3

³ : PenguinPower, a goose<sup>4

1</sup> the player who this line of the vote count refers to.
² the number of votes currently on this player.
³ the number of votes this player is away from being lynched (e.g. L-5 = 5 votes from a lynch; L-3 = 3 votes away from a lynch; L-1 = one vote away from a lynch, etc.)
⁴ list of the players who are voting the player in question.

[u r a person 2]

@GL
Could you talk a bit about strategy for when we have an even number of players like this?

Also, can mafia choose to no kill or does this confirm that our last pr is doctor?

[Nauci]

I think that while scum could choose to not kill, it would be crazy for them to do so.

After Yyotta's most unfortunate flip, scum would know that the 2nd TPR is either a doctor or neapolitan. If they choose to no kill, then the neapolitan potentially gets 1 more night to clear a towny. If they try to kill, there's only a chance that an additional player is confirmed town if the doctor guesses correctly.

So unless the remaining scum has been afk for 3 days, or is taking a crazy gamble for reasons I haven't mechanically figured out, there is a doctor.

With that said, the hammer puts FoodCoats at the top of my scum list for today, even though I'm keenly aware of the hypocrisy because I didn't realize my vote was -1. (I've been playing 13-15p games for too long. :< )

[Nauci]

The only scenario I could see for the remaining scum to choose to no-kill would be if they were far and away the most town read player in the game (dongempire, presumably). It would be a huge gamble to hope that the doctor protected them, and assumes that it's a green check for all intents and purposes as a result. But that'd be some deeeepscum play day 1.

For all other circumstances, the doctor should definitely not claim, but can probably safely assume their target is town: just try to not make it too obvious

that's

the reason for your townread.

[Donempire]

@mod i'm going to be v/la until 6th of january.

[Nauci]

Just finished a game that has me basically unbelievably tilted about my ability to play Mafia. I'm having a crisis of faith about all of my reads and posting and effort thanks to Krazy's Starcraft game. Thank god it's over now.

Scum kept lolhammering that game and getting away with it so I'm pretty disappointed in myself for not paying attention to VC. :/ But also much more suspicious of quickhammers!

VOTE: foodcoats

[Elements]

VOTE: URAP2 for what I believe are the same reasons Nauci voted URAP2 immediately following a URAP post, plus a little reaction I just got that we can go more into later.

seeing as you just lynched the cop, would now be later enough for you to go into the little reaction you got?

[foodcoats]

Sorry Yyotta. Wasn't really in playing state New Year's morning and forgot it's only 4 to lynch on D2.

[u r a person 2]

VOTE: FC

[foodcoats]

VOTE: URAP2 for what I believe are the same reasons Nauci voted URAP2 immediately following a URAP post, plus a little reaction I just got that we can go more into later.

seeing as you just lynched the cop, would now be later enough for you to go into the little reaction you got?

Owing to the flip, no, but you can re-read my interaction with URAP and think about it.

You're being pretty disingenuous here. I accidentally hammered Yyotta, but it still takes 4 to lynch.

[Elements]

So who do you think is scum here? Yyotta, really? Maybe I'm being too generous but I, too, shall eat hats if Yyotta is scum.

Heres a novel idea, lynch someone and if we get VT, invest roles have 2 results and its easy game from then. Stay coordinated and there is no way we lose.
Now get back on the yyotta wagon. We need a claim if not a lynch from her. Ok thanks

Fair enough.

VOTE: Yyotta

you seem to go from complete certainty that yyotta is town to voting them for the sake of a claim despite 3 votes already on them and accidentally hammering them. I don't understand why you'd vote them presumably thinking you're putting them to L-1 with your views on there townyness

[u r a person 2]

In post 461, Elements wrote:
In post 422, foodcoats wrote:
VOTE: URAP2 for what I believe are the same reasons Nauci voted URAP2 immediately following a URAP post, plus a little reaction I just got that we can go more into later.

seeing as you just lynched the cop, would now be later enough for you to go into the little reaction you got?

Owing to the flip, no, but you can re-read my interaction with URAP and think about it.

I don't understand.

There is one scum in this game.

You claim to know why nauci voted me, and you claim to have a scum read on me and to have inferred something from an interaction with me

then you hammer a different player entirely

then you refuse to explain the scum read on me "owing to the flip?

Am I missing something here, FC? You seem like someone who would tend to take reasonable stances regardless of alignment.

[Nauci]

Owing to the flip, no, but you can re-read my interaction with URAP and think about it.

u wot m8

[foodcoats]

Owing to the flip, no, but you can re-read my interaction with URAP and think about it.

u wot m8

I don't think I should be lynched as I can help town in multiple ways.

There is one scum in this game.

You claim to know why nauci voted me, and you claim to have a scum read on me and to have inferred something from an interaction with me

then you hammer a different player entirely

then you refuse to explain the scum read on me "owing to the flip?

Am I missing something here, FC? You seem like someone who would tend to take reasonable stances regardless of alignment.

"One scum" is scum perspective. I personally don't know who is scum, so I am pursuing multiple angles. So that's interesting. But, yesterday, I scum-read you and assumed Nauci was scum-reading you for your aboutface on Yyotta.

I didn't mean to hammer, I really just meant to shut off my overanalysis valve. After all, I was wrong about Urist, also based on whirling within my own meta considerations.

I'm likely to be lynched and could be hammered, save getting incredibly lucky, so I'll give my reads at the moment. I still read the most "scum agenda" in URAP2, and if I have to bet my beans for the whole game they're on him/her, but in the spirit of trying to simplify my reading a bit and not get stuck in cyclical reasoning, I think Nauci and Elements are better lynches. Elements for the same reasons as D2 and for coming out swinging at me for accidentally hammering, which is a great place to look townie, and Nauci for getting by very well on being quiet and doing nearly nothing. Nauci is probably the least likely to actually be scum from an agenda perspective, but not pushing an agenda could be a great scum strategy, and I think the most worthwhile thing I can do for now is put pressure on her to explain that slot for town, as it's been up for debate since Scantius.

VOTE: Nauci

[u r a person 2]

It's a fact that there is one scum in this game, not a perspective.

It's also l-2 so i think your "I'm likely to be lynched.., save getting incredibly lucky" is kind of AtE

[Elements]

Elements for the same reasons as D2 and for coming out swinging at me for accidentally hammering

I think your complete turn around from yyotta being your biggest town read to voting them, hammer or not, is my biggest reason for thinking you're scrum and is also something you haven't explained

[Nauci]

I'm likely to be lynched and could be hammered, save getting incredibly lucky, so I'll give my reads at the moment.

Maybe 4 is just a difficult number

[Nauci]

I still read the most "scum agenda" in URAP2

I think Nauci and Elements are better lynches.

What?

[Nauci]

"One scum" is scum perspective. I personally don't know who is scum, so I am pursuing multiple angles.

The more I read this post

the less I understand it

[foodcoats]

It's a fact that there is one scum in this game, not a perspective.

It's also l-2 so i think your "I'm likely to be lynched.., save getting incredibly lucky" is kind of AtE

I'm likely to be lynched and could be hammered, save getting incredibly lucky, so I'll give my reads at the moment.

Maybe 4 is just a difficult number

LOL sorry can confirm my math is bad.