Mini 2049: The Townsquare Game Over

[CheekyTeeky]

Not sure about "forced". It looks like a legit question to me. My question is why Cheeky didn't consider it to have gone my way (I didn't commute, but how would anyone else know that I didn't and wasn't shot?)

That's spicy. Um yeah no I didn't think of that. Sorry overgamed so not 100% thinking straight...who am I kidding I probably wouldn't have thought of that even if I was thinking straight and on the scum team!

[DuckDuckJab]

@skitter when are you free to jam for a bit?
I need to catch up & also want to make sure i get my read on you right; would appreciate a catchup buddy

~ tw

[Omochao]

declaring vla for a week cause my laptop is in for repairs

phone posting until then

[Omochao]

That’s a very good flip. Anyone have reason to

not

lynch off Thor’s wagon today?

I don't like limiting ourselves to options when there's no way yet to know 100% it had any scum on it. But I would be interested in maybe seeing thoughts from people about who they feel on that wagon is most likely to be scum. But I do not like trying to limit ourselves to only the votes on Thor's wagon.

yikes/10 post here

[Omochao]

lynching between {milk, skitter} seems good for today. lady angel is good pick for scum off wagon for staying on Robert for so long, but she's also lurking so it's hard to make that argument.

VOTE: milkcarton

[Lady Angel]

@A50 I mean the end of day 1, which went something like this:

- Thor is at L-1
- Milk gets wagoned to L-3
- DLA votes Milk, Milk at L-2
- Thor votes Milk, Milk at L-1
- Almost instantly DLA hammers Thor

The hop-on hop-off vote of Milk into a hammer for bad reasoning feels suspect.

Cheeky, what's with the tone shift?

[Almost50]

@A50 I mean the end of day 1, which went something like this:

- Thor is at L-1
- Milk gets wagoned to L-3
- DLA votes Milk, Milk at L-2
- Thor votes Milk, Milk at L-1
- Almost instantly DLA hammers Thor

The hop-on hop-off vote of Milk into a hammer for bad reasoning feels suspect.

Cheeky, what's with the tone shift?

In other words, you got milk confused with Robert:

Vote Count 1.Final

Flavor to be added.

With 13 Alive, it is 7 to Lynch!

Thor665: (7) themilkcartonkid (711), skitter30 (713), Almost50 (720), Omochao (744), Flubbernugget (761), Robert2424 (801), DarkLightA (414),
Robert2424: (5) Lady Angel (326), CheekyTeeky (791), DuckDuckJab (522), Gamma Emerald (796), Thor665 (808),
Gamma Emerald: (1) joges (266),
Almost50: (0)
themilkcartonkid: (0)
Lady Angel: (0)
Flubbernugget: (0)
Omochao: (0)
CheekyTeeky: (0)
joges: (0)
DuckDuckJab: (0)
skitter30: (0)
DarkLightA: (0)

Not Voting (0):


A LYNCH HAS BEEN ACHIEVED!

Important Notes:
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The Game is currently in Day One.

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skitter30 is permanently V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.

[DuckDuckJab]

Basically, I think we have to lynch between DLA/Milk/omochao.

Why Omo?

Trivium's slot

[Flubbernugget]

lynching between {milk, skitter} seems good for today. lady angel is good pick for scum off wagon for staying on Robert for so long, but she's also lurking so it's hard to make that argument.

VOTE: milkcarton

I dont see skitter as scum in the slightest

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s a very good flip. Anyone have reason to

not

lynch off Thor’s wagon today?

I'm not sure I understand. You want to lynch OFF Thor's wagon?

Bleh used the more ambiguous word
I feel like someone who voted Thor should be the lynch

[Lady Angel]

@A50 I mean the end of day 1, which went something like this:

- Thor is at L-1
- Milk gets wagoned to L-3
- DLA votes Milk, Milk at L-2
- Thor votes Milk, Milk at L-1
- Almost instantly DLA hammers Thor

The hop-on hop-off vote of Milk into a hammer for bad reasoning feels suspect.

Cheeky, what's with the tone shift?

In other words, you got milk confused with Robert:

Vote Count 1.Final

Flavor to be added.

With 13 Alive, it is 7 to Lynch!

Thor665: (7) themilkcartonkid (711), skitter30 (713), Almost50 (720), Omochao (744), Flubbernugget (761), Robert2424 (801), DarkLightA (414),
Robert2424: (5) Lady Angel (326), CheekyTeeky (791), DuckDuckJab (522), Gamma Emerald (796), Thor665 (808),
Gamma Emerald: (1) joges (266),
Almost50: (0)
themilkcartonkid: (0)
Lady Angel: (0)
Flubbernugget: (0)
Omochao: (0)
CheekyTeeky: (0)
joges: (0)
DuckDuckJab: (0)
skitter30: (0)
DarkLightA: (0)

Not Voting (0):


A LYNCH HAS BEEN ACHIEVED!

Important Notes:
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The Game is currently in Day One.

-

skitter30 is permanently V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.

whoops, so I did.

This probably makes DLA worse considering that Robert flipped scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't understand why there's any suspicion on me today? I was hoping to cruise until I felt like dedicating more time to the game.

Angel can you please explain your read on me apart from today? Like why did you open thinking I could be scum? You too joges please.

[Jingle]

Vote Count 2.1

Flavor to be added.

With 11 Alive, it is 6 to Lynch!

Lady Angel: (1) Flubbernugget (838),
themilkcartonkid: (1) Omochao (854),
skitter30: (0)
CheekyTeeky: (0)
Omochao: (0)
Gamma Emerald: (0)
DuckDuckJab: (0)
DarkLightA: (0)
joges: (0)
Almost50: (0)
Flubbernugget: (0)

Not Voting (11): skitter30, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, DuckDuckJab, themilkcartonkid, DarkLightA, joges, Almost50, Lady Angel,


Deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-01-19 13:00:00).

Important Notes:
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The Game is currently in Day 2.

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skitter30 is permanently V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.

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joges is V/LA until 1/8/19.

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Omochao is V/LA until 1/12/19.

[Lady Angel]

I don't understand why there's any suspicion on me today? I was hoping to cruise until I felt like dedicating more time to the game.

Angel can you please explain your read on me apart from today? Like why did you open thinking I could be scum? You too joges please.

Your first few posts of the day were really tone-shifted, otherwise I think you're town. So really, I'm just curious about the sudden shift.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't understand why there's any suspicion on me today? I was hoping to cruise until I felt like dedicating more time to the game.

Angel can you please explain your read on me apart from today? Like why did you open thinking I could be scum? You too joges please.

Your first few posts of the day were really tone-shifted, otherwise I think you're town. So really, I'm just curious about the sudden shift.

As I said, I'm overgamed. I'll still play but just not at the pace I was. My tone doesn't stay the same - I am all over the place as a player. It's ma thang.

Jokes aside, I would probably be using you noticing this to validate a read on you but I have nothing. What's with your tone shift/pick up in activity?

VOTE: joges dude rep out if you're too busy that you need to keep V/LAing.

[CheekyTeeky]

Vote Count 1.Final

Flavor to be added.

With 13 Alive, it is 7 to Lynch!

Thor665: (7) themilkcartonkid (711), skitter30 (713), Almost50 (720), Omochao (744), Flubbernugget (761), Robert2424 (801), DarkLightA (812),
Robert2424: (5) Lady Angel (326), CheekyTeeky (791), DuckDuckJab (522), Gamma Emerald (796), Thor665 (808),
Gamma Emerald: (1) joges (266),
Almost50: (0)
themilkcartonkid: (0)
Lady Angel: (0)
Flubbernugget: (0)
Omochao: (0)
CheekyTeeky: (0)
joges: (0)
DuckDuckJab: (0)
skitter30: (0)
DarkLightA: (0)

Not Voting (0):


A LYNCH HAS BEEN ACHIEVED!

Important Notes:
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The Game is currently in Day One.

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skitter30 is permanently V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.

I think the entire Robert wagon is town.

Last two(?) scum in {flubber, joges, DLA, milk}

[joges]

I don't understand why there's any suspicion on me today? I was hoping to cruise until I felt like dedicating more time to the game.

Angel can you please explain your read on me apart from today? Like why did you open thinking I could be scum? You too joges please.

Your first few posts of the day were really tone-shifted, otherwise I think you're town. So really, I'm just curious about the sudden shift.

As I said, I'm overgamed. I'll still play but just not at the pace I was. My tone doesn't stay the same - I am all over the place as a player. It's ma thang.

Jokes aside, I would probably be using you noticing this to validate a read on you but I have nothing. What's with your tone shift/pick up in activity?

VOTE: joges dude rep out if you're too busy that you need to keep V/LAing.

Odd reason to vote someone.

I work 10 hour shifts Friday to Monday. Can't always post those mornings. Are you suggesting my work schedule is a scum tell?

[CheekyTeeky]

Odd reason to vote someone.

I work 10 hour shifts Friday to Monday. Can't always post those mornings. Are you suggesting my work schedule is a scum tell?

No, I think you're scum independent of being annoyingly low in content.

Why would you respond to my vote but not my request to elaborate on your read of me?

Tell me how me being a buddy to Robert makes any sense at all. What happened to your gamma read?

[Flubbernugget]

I don't understand why there's any suspicion on me today? I was hoping to cruise until I felt like dedicating more time to the game.

Angel can you please explain your read on me apart from today? Like why did you open thinking I could be scum? You too joges please.

I remember you asking a lot of questions but I dont really remember you making a lot of pushes so I can see why there would be an aura of suspicion around you

[Omochao]

lynching between {milk, skitter} seems good for today. lady angel is good pick for scum off wagon for staying on Robert for so long, but she's also lurking so it's hard to make that argument.

VOTE: milkcarton

I dont see skitter as scum in the slightest

lol are you scum then?

[joges]

Odd reason to vote someone.

I work 10 hour shifts Friday to Monday. Can't always post those mornings. Are you suggesting my work schedule is a scum tell?

No, I think you're scum independent of being annoyingly low in content.

Why would you respond to my vote but not my request to elaborate on your read of me?

Tell me how me being a buddy to Robert makes any sense at all. What happened to your gamma read?

I do not know how you being a buddy to Robert makes any sense at all. Why are you asking me?

I don't feel confident in my gamma read because it was so long ago.

Your post looks fake. It was definitely an attempt to rolefish. Unless you're a vig, you have no way of knowing that was a vig shot, but you've put the thought out there that it was. Additionally, you literally asked what happened to the night kill like scum would post "Oh, sorry guys we didn't submit it" or a protective role would come out and go "You're welcome for that, Cheeky."

Tell me why your post is a good post and not a terrible post?

[joges]

Great shot vig!...wait what happened to the scum kill?

This feels slightly forced, honestly.

DLA's hammer was awful and I'd be inclined to lynch there today.

Just a conversation piece here. But why is it in mafia games that a hammer to town looks any worse than the any of the other votes to get to a position to hammer. Is it just that stand out post that ends a day that brings all the eyes? I've never understood it this mind frame.

I think it's human nature to look at the person who hammered, since that person technically "did it" - they're the one that got whoever lynched. Other people on the wagon don't want blood on their hands when it goes south, which is why the hammer takes most of the attention.

As for why DLA specifically, he popped in to bandwagon Milk, then the next gameplay-related post was Thor voting Milk, his counterwagon. DLA instantly hops on the Thor wagon for Thor's post sounding "fake", and gets Thor lynched. The reasoning there was awful (what made Thor's post sound fake?), and the low time between DLA's two votes makes it seem like he never intended to seriously lynch Milk and just wanted Thor to post and then lynch that.

I like this enough to nod approvingly at it.

VOTE: dla

[Flubbernugget]

lynching between {milk, skitter} seems good for today. lady angel is good pick for scum off wagon for staying on Robert for so long, but she's also lurking so it's hard to make that argument.

VOTE: milkcarton

I dont see skitter as scum in the slightest

lol are you scum then?

Can you walk me through how you're making this association?

[skitter30]

i think dla's hammer was god-awful given robert's flip, and i think i want to start there for now

VOTE: darklighta

scum on wagon are something like darklighta > milk >> omochao = flubber > a50
offwagon something like joges >> lady angel > gamma >>> cheeky = ddj

i skimmed robert's iso; there isn't much content there but i think that he is probably not scum with cheeky or a50

cheeky because of his 'voting her for going with the flow' push; kinda felt more to me like he was voting an active player because she was kinda there, but he didn't have any real reason for it. it didn't feel like the sort of vote you'd lay on a partner imo

a50 because he initially wrote off his posts as being 'jester-y' or a 'distraction' and as not being worth pushing him over, but when the wagon heated up he decided to jump on for rather flimsy reasons, at least in part because a50's posts were annoying him. Not sure he'd sit on a partner as his wagon was building just because he found his posts annoying really, feels more like a convenient place for him to push.

i think i'm at town!a50 now

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idk what happened to the nk but the first thing that comes to mind is that scum may have tried to shoot a50? not sure why they'd have tried that tho unless they thought he was bluffing wrt the commuting thing.

(I didn't commute, but how would anyone else know that I didn't and wasn't shot?)

nm then

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That’s a very good flip. Anyone have reason to

not

lynch off Thor’s wagon today?

I don't like limiting ourselves to

options when there's no way yet to know 100% it had any scum on it.

But I would be interested in maybe seeing thoughts from people about who they feel on that wagon is most likely to be scum. But I do not like trying to limit ourselves to only the votes on Thor's wagon.

i mean, really. if scum are all offwagon where do you think there are exactly?
offwagon is: you, lady angel, cheeky, ddj, gmma, and thor. thor's dead. from your pov you're town, so you're looking at two scum in {lady angel/cheeky/ddj/gamma} if no scum were on wagon, and i think it's fairly unlikely that there's two scum in that group; i'm fairly strongly townreading cheeky/ddj and a scumteam of gamma/lady angel does not feel particularly likely to me.

also given that robert was the cw i think it's a fairly safe assumption that one, if not both, scum were on the thor wagon.

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As for why DLA specifically, he popped in to bandwagon Milk, then the next gameplay-related post was Thor voting Milk, his counterwagon. DLA instantly hops on the Thor wagon for Thor's post sounding "fake", and gets Thor lynched. The reasoning there was awful (what made Thor's post sound fake?), and the low time between DLA's two votes makes it seem like he never intended to seriously lynch Milk and just wanted Thor to post and then lynch that.

@A50 I mean the end of day 1, which went something like this:

The hop-on hop-off vote of Milk into a hammer for bad reasoning feels suspect.

i think this is mildly +town for lady angel, for confusing milk with robert and thinking that milk was thor's cw at eod yesterday; scum don't usually forget the names of their partners that got shot overnight after being a cw.

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@skitter when are you free to jam for a bit?
I need to catch up & also want to make sure i get my read on you right; would appreciate a catchup buddy

~ tw

i'm around (i know you aren't rn) but i'm going to be honest and say my motivation for mafia is waxing and waning quite a lot rn and idk if i'll have motivation for this even later today or tomorrow; idk how much of a help i'll be wrt you catching up but i can try

i'm aware that i've not really towntold for me yet; i'm having a really hard time getting into this game and feel very out-of-sync-y

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lynching between {milk, skitter} seems good for today. lady angel is good pick for scum off wagon for staying on Robert for so long, but she's also lurking so it's hard to make that argument.

VOTE: milkcarton

hi let's talk about this

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Trivium's slot

remind me what you don't like about this slot again?

[Gamma Emerald]

Unless you're a vig, you have no way of knowing that was a vig shot

The fact it was a scum death? Scum won’t shoot their own teammate except in very special circumstances