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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:39 am

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In post 413, YellowSnow wrote:I really don't think Junk would be so agressive as scum either.
I don't buy this, especially in this situation at L-1. I'm usually more aggressive and tunnely as scum, I pick fights. If you're willing to repeatedly argue with people, especially ones who are already scumreading you and voting you then they often back down, they want to avoid conflict and rationalize it to themselves afterwards
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:40 am

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In post 418, Junk wrote:First he distances from him, then he townreads him for a silly reason.
why do you call it silly

do you disagree?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:52 am

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I feel a bit bad now because the re-evaluation of those specific reads was pretty towny and he also didn't back down wrt real-time interactions (or reverse his read arbitrarily just because I hard pushed him) which.. feels town indicative. I also feel it took me a while to look towny this game fwiw.

Unfortunately I also baited Junk into making those read changes.

Still not sure I want that lynch today anymore. :/ he's contributing a lot more than Nineja and his mindset is presenting as more likely town to me. he's either like substantially better scum than Nineja or just town.

someone talk to me? I agree with his analysis that his last few posts have been towny. am I going crazy?
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:56 am

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Kinda wondering if computerfan0 actually flips red
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:00 am

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@computerfan why are you even in this game?

@the worst yes you are going crazy
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:05 am

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viewtopic.php?f=50&t=76282
I'm starting to remember this game from last year (don't feel like anyone has to read it, I'm just thinking out loud). Sashadin had a similarish quirk of popping in every day to say he was up to date but had nothing to report. It kinda took until d3 for me to lose tunnel vision on other players and realise that his play was really scum-bad-faithy.

Only real reason I'm bringing it up here is because I know it's a flaw of mine wrt reading newbies. Slots like Yyotta's and cf0's do paralyse me a little.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:06 am

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In post 429, JunkoChan wrote:@computerfan why are you even in this game?

@the worst yes you are going crazy
What do you think of the composition of Junk's wagon -- do you also scumread GL and do you think they're likely aligned? Does it look like a bus to you?

If you've got any comments around why you think Junk's more recent posting is likely to come from scum I'd appreciate them too. I'm pretty much on the opposite page atm.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:17 am

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So it's a paranoia for lurkers, but I sincerely doubt both mafia players are inactive also

@the worst we already discussed this when it was nineja instead of junk, I was treading his slot until he exploded and then went "hihixd sorry i screwed up we ok now?" I even I guess you were right about nineja.

I got GuiltyLion on null right now if nineja/junk flips red I would be inclined to believe that he is also scum making space between him and his partner, maybe he thought GW was more likely to be lynched today and is not backing down because junk is being supremely scummy?
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:17 am

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So it's a paranoia for lurkers, but I sincerely doubt both mafia players are inactive also

@the worst we already discussed this when it was nineja instead of junk, I was treading his slot until he exploded and then went "hihixd sorry i screwed up we ok now?" I even I guess you were right about nineja.

I got GuiltyLion on null right now if nineja/junk flips red I would be inclined to believe that he is also scum making space between him and his partner, maybe he thought GW was more likely to be lynched today and is not backing down because junk is being supremely scummy?
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:20 am

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In post 426, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 418, Junk wrote:First he distances from him, then he townreads him for a silly reason.
why do you call it silly

do you disagree?
Because it's silly.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:21 am

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In post 427, the worst wrote:I feel a bit bad now because the re-evaluation of those specific reads was pretty towny and he also didn't back down wrt real-time interactions (or reverse his read arbitrarily just because I hard pushed him) which.. feels town indicative. I also feel it took me a while to look towny this game fwiw.

Unfortunately I also baited Junk into making those read changes.

Still not sure I want that lynch today anymore. :/ he's contributing a lot more than Nineja and his mindset is presenting as more likely town to me. he's either like substantially better scum than Nineja or just town.

someone talk to me? I agree with his analysis that his last few posts have been towny. am I going crazy?
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:24 am

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I'm sitting on this for now:

town:
yellowsnow
brass
the worst(there is no space for you to be scum in my current read)

w t f are you doing if you are town:
Grandwazoo
GuiltyLion
computerfan0
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junk
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:25 am

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In post 432, JunkoChan wrote:it's a paranoia for lurkers, but I sincerely doubt both mafia players are inactive also
that's probably valid (lol if it's literally Yyotta/cf0) but it doesn't feel like he's trying to lolsolve the game on day one anymore, like I feel a better sense that he's accountable for his townreads and willing to reconsider the weaker reads there if that makes sense?

can you talk to me about how you're reading computerfan0 atm?
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:26 am

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Junko......can you tier that a bit harder for me? a PoE of 5 people which includes four "wtf are you doing if you're town"/policy concerns loses games 99% of the time
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:27 am

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GW went silent the moment people started shifting to junk which is melting my brain right now
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:27 am

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If computer0 flips red, I'd clear YellowSnow. I don't think he's bussing him like that. BUT if computer flips town, guys please do be mindful of YellowSnow.

GuiltyLion being scum makes sense with both town!computerfan0 (I think his townread on computerfan0 looked TMI-ish) and with scum!computerfan0 (He could have just wanted to townread his buddy). So I think GuiltyLion lynch looks solid (not today, but Day 2 or Day 3)

Junko lynch is plan B if everything else fails.

GW, the worst and brass are lock town and they shouldn't be considered for lynching unless something very very wild happens.

The moonydwarf slot in my opinion is town, but not lock. But still pretty towny.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:31 am

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In post 437, the worst wrote:can you talk to me about how you're reading computerfan0 atm?
is there something to read?

from the w t f are you doing if you are town team I would vote GW or computerfan (computerfan for being useless but not because I actually scumread him)

and of course Junk from the later list, he even openly refused to claim
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:33 am

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In post 434, Junk wrote:
In post 426, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 418, Junk wrote:First he distances from him, then he townreads him for a silly reason.
why do you call it silly

do you disagree?
Because it's silly.
Like, this post is scummy for GL.

If I'm calling it silly, it obviously means I disagree. Why would I agree with something I find silly.

GuiltyLion feels like is just posting meaningless posts, and he's supposed to be a SE or something right? It wouldn't be scummy for a newbie, but it's scummy for him.

He probably thinks he looks towny for asking questions, but that question doesn't lead to anywhere.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:34 am

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In post 441, JunkoChan wrote:and of course Junk from the later list, he even openly refused to claim
That's not scummy.

I am town. Please, trust me.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:34 am

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I kinda want to post-by-post analyse why I am so confused anyone can read Moony right now but those analyses are really annoying and I think the most valid response would be, "ok"

@Junk what do you make of their unvote? How about the way Yyotta is prod-dodging through the game?

also VOTE: computerfan0
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:35 am

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@the worst I blame your case on nineja it made sense to me after this new guy started posting
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 444, the worst wrote:I kinda want to post-by-post analyse why I am so confused anyone can read Moony right now but those analyses are really annoying and I think the most valid response would be, "ok"

@Junk what do you make of their unvote? How about the way Yyotta is prod-dodging through the game?

also VOTE: computerfan0
Yotta is unreadable for me.

What unvote?

I trust my moonydwarf townread. I think they were townie.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:37 am

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In post 82, moonythedwarf wrote:I have no clue, it seems we all are playing the exact same card, and said card is self conflicting.
And at the same time, this "play style" we're currently in has a nice issue where being pushy == lynch.


I propose we try cleaning up the vote slate, and carrying on with actual insights and discussion. Maybe?
UNVOTE: we're not getting anywhere
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They seem like a weird person.

His previous posts are what I townread.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:38 am

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In post 442, Junk wrote:
In post 434, Junk wrote:
In post 426, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 418, Junk wrote:First he distances from him, then he townreads him for a silly reason.
why do you call it silly

do you disagree?
Because it's silly.
Like, this post is scummy for GL.

If I'm calling it silly, it obviously means I disagree. Why would I agree with something I find silly.

GuiltyLion feels like is just posting meaningless posts, and he's supposed to be a SE or something right? It wouldn't be scummy for a newbie, but it's scummy for him.

He probably thinks he looks towny for asking questions, but that question doesn't lead to anywhere.
This is eerily close to the concerns I'm having with GL at the moment. He's presentish but when he is here it feels like he's mostly asking questions which he's not really following through on (I'm also not sure I can entirely see what he's up to / where the questions are going or coming from).

I'm kinda waiting to see some greater momentum and trajectory in his reads and what he's pushing but he feels really safe and go-with-the-flowy. I also can't get inside his head which is a bit worrying, given the last time we were both town we were on the same page like. to almost a scary level. :lol:

I kinda think this is a pretty towny pickup.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:39 am

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In post 447, Junk wrote:
In post 82, moonythedwarf wrote:I have no clue, it seems we all are playing the exact same card, and said card is self conflicting.
And at the same time, this "play style" we're currently in has a nice issue where being pushy == lynch.


I propose we try cleaning up the vote slate, and carrying on with actual insights and discussion. Maybe?
UNVOTE: we're not getting anywhere
:shrug:

They seem like a weird person.

His previous posts are what I townread.
Do you think his reaction to being (if I recall correctly) voted once or twice and unvoting, requesting a clean slate, comes from town or scum?

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