Open 745: 9:12 [Game Over]

[Slaxx]

121: I pointed out an inconsistency in play. Also, “shading” by guessing a motive behind a post- isn’t that what we are all doing here? Doesn’t seem like shading.

I didn’t say you didnt point out an inconsistency.

I said you called him scum for something he hasn’t notably “passed” in thread yet and you didn’t know if he was going to comment on it.

It was after the post pinkball made(invisi’s post was) so until he has passed that point in thread you can’t assume that he won’t comment and that he’s scum for that.

Also, I pointed out the fact that the 2 scenarios are different.
Pinkball refuses any information/reads to give and invisible only didn’t fully explain one read.
Big difference there IMO


and I didn’t say guessing a motive
You assigned a motive to his posts, which is what I believe is shading.
That’s what I see, that’s what I think

Assigning a motive is literally what everyone who is trying to figure out this game is doing lmfao

[Slaxx]

#43: Because lynching the most useless player is a low effort vote. It’s an excuse to not discern alignment. Am I wrong here?

[Eragon]

135: My vote was to preside OfhrZ for a read because I felt like I could read him.

Why park my vote on a replacement when it can be used elsewhere? Come the hell on. In no way did I insinuate ofhrZ wasn’t scum by replacing our. Talk about assigning motivation to people christ

Understandable

[Eragon]

126: He hadn’t posted much and I said I have a good handle on reading him. So. How’s that scummy? Seems pretty consistent to me.

Point is, you haven’t tried to sort him.

And you had voted him and had him as a scumread before this post, so you can’t say “consistent”

If you have a “good handle on reading him” then why didn’t you try reading the posts he made and commenting on them?

Lol. Look at his ISO. I needed more. Dude.

So you had him as a scumlean but needed more to read him???

How does that make sense?

[Slaxx]

#49 Are you serious? I didn’t get an answer to my question and SA had posted since then. If anything I should be a townread for the follow up, in means I’m genuinely interested in the answer and not just trying to look busy

[Eragon]

Oh Jesus am I gonna have to defend myself pbp?

136: How is it pocketing if we are both your strongest scumreads?

1. I could be wrong about one or both of your alignments
2. NGL I have seen scum “pocket” scum before
3. It’s still a disgusting post

“3. It’s still a disgusting post” means like nothing.

1, yes you could. And 2, I don’t think that’s the right terminology but that’s not a fruitful discussion.

It means that I scumread the post regardless of whether it’s SvS, TvS, or he’s pocketing you

[Slaxx]

126: He hadn’t posted much and I said I have a good handle on reading him. So. How’s that scummy? Seems pretty consistent to me.

Point is, you haven’t tried to sort him.

And you had voted him and had him as a scumread before this post, so you can’t say “consistent”

If you have a “good handle on reading him” then why didn’t you try reading the posts he made and commenting on them?

Lol. Look at his ISO. I needed more. Dude.

So you had him as a scumlean but needed more to read him???

How does that make sense?

Lean. Lean isn’t enough to lynch. I want a solid scumread. I mean if I’m 60/40 on him but think a pressure vote can make me 70/30 do I not go for it? Those numbers are arbitrary but help illustrate the point I’m making.

[Slaxx]

Ugh I think you might be town just based off your analysis but I feel like you took your read of me on page 1 and confbiased the hell out of it. Some of these points are straight up nonsensical, particularly 49. In no world should digging for info after you don’t feel like you’ve gotten enough be scumread.

[Eragon]

#43: Because lynching the most useless player is a low effort vote. It’s an excuse to not discern alignment. Am I wrong here?

It’s not the idea that’s bad, it’s the tone.

As I expressed in the post about it.

You can have a correct idea and a scummy tone

[Eragon]

#49 Are you serious? I didn’t get an answer to my question and SA had posted since then. If anything I should be a townread for the follow up, in means I’m genuinely interested in the answer and not just trying to look busy

Ok maybe that’s a bit much yes, but I still think you wait until it’s obvious he doesn’t respond, then ask.

Cause there’s a good possiblity he just didn’t reach that point in thread and was still catching up.

But I see it’s not really scummy so point dropped

[Slaxx]

#43: Because lynching the most useless player is a low effort vote. It’s an excuse to not discern alignment. Am I wrong here?

It’s not the idea that’s bad, it’s the tone.

As I expressed in the post about it.

You can have a correct idea and a scummy tone

Please do explain how the tone was scummy. It was a bad fucking vote.

[Eragon]

126: He hadn’t posted much and I said I have a good handle on reading him. So. How’s that scummy? Seems pretty consistent to me.

Point is, you haven’t tried to sort him.

And you had voted him and had him as a scumread before this post, so you can’t say “consistent”

If you have a “good handle on reading him” then why didn’t you try reading the posts he made and commenting on them?

Lol. Look at his ISO. I needed more. Dude.

So you had him as a scumlean but needed more to read him???

How does that make sense?

Lean. Lean isn’t enough to lynch. I want a solid scumread. I mean if I’m 60/40 on him but think a pressure vote can make me 70/30 do I not go for it? Those numbers are arbitrary but help illustrate the point I’m making.

The point is why did you have him as a scumlean, not why you voted him.

[Slaxx]

#49 Are you serious? I didn’t get an answer to my question and SA had posted since then. If anything I should be a townread for the follow up, in means I’m genuinely interested in the answer and not just trying to look busy

Ok maybe that’s a bit much yes, but I still think you wait until it’s obvious he doesn’t respond, then ask.

Cause there’s a good possiblity he just didn’t reach that point in thread and was still catching up.

But I see it’s not really scummy so point dropped

If I ask a question and the poster is addressing issues in a similar area and mine doesn’t get addressed I’m going to follow up before I forget. It was important to me to get the answer.

[Eragon]

#43: Because lynching the most useless player is a low effort vote. It’s an excuse to not discern alignment. Am I wrong here?

It’s not the idea that’s bad, it’s the tone.

As I expressed in the post about it.

You can have a correct idea and a scummy tone

Please do explain how the tone was scummy. It was a bad fucking vote.

43 I’m having trouble putting this one into words but I don’t like this post. It feels just… off to me? It almost feels a little like shade, saying that “your vote it stupid and really took no effort and this is why it was trash

[Slaxx]

Because. That. Vote. Was. Trash.

Because. The. Vote. Was. Low. Effort.

“Feels off” I can’t respond to

[Slaxx]

126: He hadn’t posted much and I said I have a good handle on reading him. So. How’s that scummy? Seems pretty consistent to me.

Point is, you haven’t tried to sort him.

And you had voted him and had him as a scumread before this post, so you can’t say “consistent”

If you have a “good handle on reading him” then why didn’t you try reading the posts he made and commenting on them?

Lol. Look at his ISO. I needed more. Dude.

So you had him as a scumlean but needed more to read him???

How does that make sense?

Lean. Lean isn’t enough to lynch. I want a solid scumread. I mean if I’m 60/40 on him but think a pressure vote can make me 70/30 do I not go for it? Those numbers are arbitrary but help illustrate the point I’m making.

The point is why did you have him as a scumlean, not why you voted him.

#58 and #59 seemed a bit rushed and out of place. It was a very weak read. I think later in the game I say I’m more confident on town than scum reads.

[Eragon]

#49 Are you serious? I didn’t get an answer to my question and SA had posted since then. If anything I should be a townread for the follow up, in means I’m genuinely interested in the answer and not just trying to look busy

Ok maybe that’s a bit much yes, but I still think you wait until it’s obvious he doesn’t respond, then ask.

Cause there’s a good possiblity he just didn’t reach that point in thread and was still catching up.

But I see it’s not really scummy so point dropped

If I ask a question and the poster is addressing issues in a similar area and mine doesn’t get addressed I’m going to follow up before I forget. It was important to me to get the answer.

And that’s why I said point dropped

Some of my pints might be single-sided becuase I’m trying to catchup and get back into the present so I can form some real-time reads, so I might have missed some perspective.
This is why I actually like stuff like this(the back-and-forth) Becuase it helps point out where I’m being a dumb fuck and makes me give more educated reads.

[Slaxx]

So I actually am okay with some of the ofhrZ stuff. I’m playing closer to the cuff than I usually do and that’s on me. If I eat the rope, I’ve learned that playstyle isn’t my look.

But a lot of this peripheral stuff just feels like you wanted to add stuff to the case on me which I actually get if you’re trying to push a lynch but so much of it seems just... superfluous. Like even benign posts were assigned this inflated meaning.

[Eragon]

126: He hadn’t posted much and I said I have a good handle on reading him. So. How’s that scummy? Seems pretty consistent to me.

Point is, you haven’t tried to sort him.

And you had voted him and had him as a scumread before this post, so you can’t say “consistent”

If you have a “good handle on reading him” then why didn’t you try reading the posts he made and commenting on them?

Lol. Look at his ISO. I needed more. Dude.

So you had him as a scumlean but needed more to read him???

How does that make sense?

Lean. Lean isn’t enough to lynch. I want a solid scumread. I mean if I’m 60/40 on him but think a pressure vote can make me 70/30 do I not go for it? Those numbers are arbitrary but help illustrate the point I’m making.

The point is why did you have him as a scumlean, not why you voted him.

#58 and #59 seemed a bit rushed and out of place. It was a very weak read. I think later in the game I say I’m more confident on town than scum reads.

Why do you feel it’s out of place to question a naked vote and to call invisible town?

And is rushed neccesarily scummy, or is rushed short on time??

It’s understandable its a weak read, but why did you not give anything for people to go on? Bringing that up earlier would have been fine, and given reasons you actually think ohfhrz is scum instead of seemingly naked pushing him.

[Slaxx]

#49 Are you serious? I didn’t get an answer to my question and SA had posted since then. If anything I should be a townread for the follow up, in means I’m genuinely interested in the answer and not just trying to look busy

Ok maybe that’s a bit much yes, but I still think you wait until it’s obvious he doesn’t respond, then ask.

Cause there’s a good possiblity he just didn’t reach that point in thread and was still catching up.

But I see it’s not really scummy so point dropped

If I ask a question and the poster is addressing issues in a similar area and mine doesn’t get addressed I’m going to follow up before I forget. It was important to me to get the answer.

And that’s why I said point dropped

Some of my pints might be single-sided becuase I’m trying to catchup and get back into the present so I can form some real-time reads, so I might have missed some perspective.
This is why I actually like stuff like this(the back-and-forth) Becuase it helps point out where I’m being a dumb fuck and makes me give more educated reads.

I understand.

[Eragon]

So I actually am okay with some of the ofhrZ stuff. I’m playing closer to the cuff than I usually do and that’s on me. If I eat the rope, I’ve learned that playstyle isn’t my look.

But a lot of this peripheral stuff just feels like you wanted to add stuff to the case on me which I actually get if you’re trying to push a lynch but so much of it seems just... superfluous. Like even benign posts were assigned this inflated meaning.

And I dropped the ones that I agree to be stupid when pointed out.

Like I agree that post about the question was stupid.

[Slaxx]

126: He hadn’t posted much and I said I have a good handle on reading him. So. How’s that scummy? Seems pretty consistent to me.

Point is, you haven’t tried to sort him.

And you had voted him and had him as a scumread before this post, so you can’t say “consistent”

If you have a “good handle on reading him” then why didn’t you try reading the posts he made and commenting on them?

Lol. Look at his ISO. I needed more. Dude.

So you had him as a scumlean but needed more to read him???

How does that make sense?

Lean. Lean isn’t enough to lynch. I want a solid scumread. I mean if I’m 60/40 on him but think a pressure vote can make me 70/30 do I not go for it? Those numbers are arbitrary but help illustrate the point I’m making.

The point is why did you have him as a scumlean, not why you voted him.

#58 and #59 seemed a bit rushed and out of place. It was a very weak read. I think later in the game I say I’m more confident on town than scum reads.

Why do you feel it’s out of place to question a naked vote and to call invisible town?

And is rushed neccesarily scummy, or is rushed short on time??

It’s understandable its a weak read, but why did you not give anything for people to go on? Bringing that up earlier would have been fine, and given reasons you actually think ohfhrz is scum instead of seemingly naked pushing him.

I don’t know! I feel the same way and had the same thought about time. Obviously time isn’t AI.

I didn’t want to show my hand until he posted more. I think that’s fairly reasonable.

[Slaxx]

Also in game activity was super low at that point. I figured a move like that might get people stirred up.

I suppose it did. Just with a delay.

[Slaxx]

I was actually kind of confused at the lack of concern anyone showed for that vote. I think you’re the first person to point it out.

[Slaxx]

Anyway I really like real time talks, I think they’re kind of special in terms of getting reads.

But I have to sleep, so, just drop any other questions you have for me.