Starcraft Mafia: 2 -- Game Over!
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I'd appreciate it if hydras signed their posts.
@Mephistophanes: It means that town roles that affect ground units aren't completely useless against scum, at least.
It also means that if we eliminate a bunch of air-based scum, we've a higher chance of having a ground-based scum left, for whatever that may be worth.-
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@Krazy: I think it's really cool that you emulated the notion of a 'map' and 'terrain' with position in the playerlist--that's a really innovative and flavorful use of mechanics and I'm really excited to play this game because of it. Zone control is such a big part of Star Craft play so it's neat to see that in the mechanics so literally and, in a way, seamlessly.-
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Doing alright though it's past time for me to go to sleep so I should probably do that.In post 28, pinturicchio wrote:Yo Varsoon how you feeling
@Koki: I just now actually realized your role could be mod-confirmed as town in that game and you weren't just literally screwing with me.
Why didn't you confirm as town then?-
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@Mephistophanes: So the playerlist has numbers, right? Like
1. Varsoon
2. Mephisto
3. Shoshin
Well let's say Mephisto has an ability that makes them bulletproof, but it's only from people near him in the playerlist.
N1, there's no deaths.
Mephisto then can figure, "Well maybe my BP stopped a kill coming from Varsoon or Shoshin."
That's basically how it works. Various roles in this game utilize place in the playerlist. Some role probably affect what's close to them, some probably affect what's further. Some might affect everyone above you, some might do everyone below.-
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For those who are curious:
search.php?keywords=stretch&t=77970&sf=msgonly
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@Alchemist: The first one linked is literally one where she did it as anti-town third party that they've consistently called 'scum' and acted as though it were scum play (even though it was a fucking multiball game, which completely renders it NOT THE SAME, but whatever, what's important is that they saw themselves as scum that game and employed that rhetoric there specifically but have not in any town games that I've been in).
@Mephitophanes 39: Don't care about your homesite, care about what's happening here and how it makes for ease of me understanding. When a player flagrantly makes use of their scum rhetoric while also playing in a way that hinders town, I'm gonna call it out.-
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@Mephistophanes: The second link works--it should bring you to TAZ mafia, with a search for 'stretch', yielding no results.
You're welcome to search that game on your own:
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Your hydra signing is the least of why I scumread you.
I'm not going to re-assess because the last time that you used a combination of 'stretch your mind', emotional rhetoric, and this kind of browbeating to force me to reassess an early scumread on you, you were third party anti-town.
So, nope.
Not going to happen.-
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You have no idea what 'universally townread' means. You were majority townread. It's hard different.
You can come up with whatever little lies or rationale you want to try to wriggle free
You can continue to try to paint me as some person who's 'got pants on his head'
But I'm not going to let go of an informed read against a slot that, in the past, has won a game against me using these very sorts of tactics to try to shake my suspicions.-
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Fully reveal it now.
I'm not going to let you beat around the bush.
Your answer in 177 says to me "I do not actually have a good reason and I am fabricating one; in the meantime, please come up with something on your own to justify my play and maybe come to a scumread conclusion there yourself."
So, no.
I won't just 'look at some ISO's and 'get the gist of it'.
You'll explain it in full detail and won't 'hide' anything that you don't want to reveal 'quite yet', because that's bullshit.-
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You talking about how you look in relation to me is scum posturing and attempts to make me change my position solely for towncred from you, which is something I could care less about.
I want your Taly read explained so that I can further understand the game at hand; not because it'll buy you any towncred.
The burden on me is not to explain why Taly is town; stop trying to walk back your read or force me to do something inorganic like explain a read I don't have and just explain your own damn read that you've already claimed.-
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Yeah, Taly's town.
Alchemist is town.
Need to sort:
Kokichi, who should be more present and who's IC claim only makes sense one way that I can figure
Pint, who seems to really be slipping under the radar.
I'm still good for a STW lynch, all that said.
@Mephisto: Keep in mind that Shoshin was 3P that actually had to scumhunt in Starcraft 1, whereas here Shoshin would just be hard scum having to fake scumreads.-
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I'm not really sold on this play being in line with their previous towngames. I've never seen Shoshin be this furtive about a read and, in my experience, when people are that dodgy, it's because they are scum.
It's also important to note that it's not just Shoshin driving that hydra; theworst is in there, too. If we're to believe their posts are jointly written and they are posting as 'one entity' or whatever, you should take that into account as well.
Regardless, I'm basing my reads (as much as I can) on this game and its contents, independent of anything else. In this game, I don't like how the STW slot has played. Their appeals when I was pressuring them strike me as really egregious, too.
P-EDIT: I wish Nico would be more present in games. Nico joining games, then getting frustrated and lowkey ducking out makes it really hard to read the slot.
P-PEDIT:
@Tibor & Lumia : White Diamond is a character from Steven Universe and is relevant in the current arc that's being shown. She's highly secluded--Steven throws a ball just to get a chance to talk to her, but she doesn't show up.
@Mephisto: I mean that I'm not seeing a lot of articulation about why Taly is scum here. I'm not seeing real passion in your read against Taly; when I say it lacks venom, I don't mean frustration or expletives, I mean that your read there is without much of a push; if you scumread them, it's not like you're doing anything to wagon them or get them lynched, etc.
P-P-PEDIT:
I might start a youtube channel, but I dunno what I'd put on there. :/
I stream from time to time, when I find time for it.-
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Oh, I was town in Antihero, Mini 1574, and two of the Touhou games.In post 340, Michael Scott wrote:
I just went to your profile, searched "Venom", and it showed me your entire usage of the word in all posts.In post 334, Varsoon wrote:You looked at every single game I've ever played and searched the word 'venom'?
Stay in your Hydra, detective.
I went into each of the games it was mentioned in and checked your alignment.
search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&author_id=20928
~Detective Michael Scarn / Jimothy / Auro
Anyway, speaking of context, I'm criticizing Mephisto's apparent scumread on Taly (which, now I see, isn't actually a scumread, so of course it's venomless) rather than defending myself by trying to undermine someone pushing me (which was the case of the use in Civilzation Mafia, at least) :3-
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