Mini 2049: The Townsquare Game Over

[DarkLightA]

I don't mind the DLA wagon as he is one of my suspects but also let's not forget milk&trivium's TMI posts.

Trivium called A50/Thor town at a time when I think nobody could have TR'd either of them confidently let alone TR both of them when they were arguing.

-BuJ

Skimming a shit argument and going "yeah this is tvt" is pretty common from either alignment.

This

[DarkLightA]

I'll wait for the sake of DDJ, joges & Flubber who want more time. I hope the catch up/questioning yields something fruitful or I'll be kicking my own butt for not cutting the day short when -from my own PoV- it was best to do so because we are in a good position and I wanted to make it harder for scum to sniff for more info.

How do you feel about me saying I didn’t think I was hammering? Do you think I it’s bullshit that someone can be so inattentive to the thread?

[Omochao]

I'm so livid rn

extending my vla 3 days until the 15th

cause my mother forgot to mail my computer and didn't tell me for 3 days smh

also with this trivium thing tbf I also thought that a50 v thor was tvt when I read it

hard to really defend the person in the slot before me tho

[Omochao]

yeah i was kinda getting that vibe too; he started off with {me/milk} but said he could consider dla as that wagon heated up; it feels a bit like he wants to push on the thor wagon but he doens't particularly care *who* on that wagon is getting pushed.

that's a pretty fair assessment honestly. I didn't really think that much into it and I kinda just mentioned people who I just thought left sus votes when I last looked at the wagon before the lynch.

I would have liked to look at it a bit deeper but the universe is determined to keep my laptop away from me haha

[joges]

Unless you're a vig, you have no way of knowing that was a vig shot

The fact it was a scum death? Scum won’t shoot their own teammate except in very special circumstances

What about the wording on the flip though? He wasn't killed, he "left".

[joges]

Okay let’s not lynch me just yet.

First let me explain the hammer. I was away in a hut over New Years with lots of socialising and only phone WiFi in a small section of a staircase. This meant I had little to no time to read or do anything. As a result my actions were based on a rather rapid read. I didn’t actually realise I’d hammered until after others pointed this out.

I don't like this. Why would you vote for someone under these circumstances?

[Almost50]

I'll wait for the sake of DDJ, joges & Flubber who want more time. I hope the catch up/questioning yields something fruitful or I'll be kicking my own butt for not cutting the day short when -from my own PoV- it was best to do so because we are in a good position and I wanted to make it harder for scum to sniff for more info.

How do you feel about me saying I didn’t think I was hammering? Do you think I it’s bullshit that someone can be so inattentive to the thread?

I've done it before.. BOTH ways. I did hammer someone without realizing it (and as both alignments) and I also did fake not knowing I was hammering someone whom I was indeed very aware I was hammering (but only as scum).

In short; it matters not much to me. What does is that you switched off Robert and unto Thor in a time that they both were @L-1 with 1 non-voter to decide the lynch, and I don't see how you could've SR'd them both yet opted to join the smaller of the two wagons. Furthermore, we have the flips of the two now so it looks shady at best, or a scum move at worst.

[Almost50]

In other words, timing and circumstances matter more than the vote/hammer itself.

[joges]

Great shot vig!...wait what happened to the scum kill?

This feels slightly forced, honestly.

DLA's hammer was awful and I'd be inclined to lynch there today.

Just a conversation piece here. But why is it in mafia games that a hammer to town looks any worse than the any of the other votes to get to a position to hammer. Is it just that stand out post that ends a day that brings all the eyes? I've never understood it this mind frame.

I think it's human nature to look at the person who hammered, since that person technically "did it" - they're the one that got whoever lynched. Other people on the wagon don't want blood on their hands when it goes south, which is why the hammer takes most of the attention.

As for why DLA specifically, he popped in to bandwagon Milk, then the next gameplay-related post was Thor voting Milk, his counterwagon. DLA instantly hops on the Thor wagon for Thor's post sounding "fake", and gets Thor lynched. The reasoning there was awful (what made Thor's post sound fake?), and the low time between DLA's two votes makes it seem like he never intended to seriously lynch Milk and just wanted Thor to post and then lynch that.

I like this enough to nod approvingly at it.

VOTE: dla

I don’t like that joges doesn’t question the first paragraph of this post as it’s godawful and he voiced opposition to it a page earlier

I was just asking for an opinion. I even said, to start my question, "just a conversation piece". I don't need to respond to people who answered the question, because I just wanted to know what people felt about them in general.

[joges]

@joges what all of the game have you read? What are your thoughts rn on everyone?

I have read to this post so far. Comprehension and retention probably aren't that good.
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Players in the game that I can think of without looking anything up:

duck: a hydra that I will rely on my town reads to help me sort because I'm not good at reading hydras because the usual inconsistencies in posts between two brains geeks me out a bit.

Gamma: my scum read is loose at best here, I felt the reason I voted in D1 was very good, but at this point it's been so long ago that I am not ready to commit to this.

cheeky: Post I claimed to be role fishing-y still stands out. Maybe it's because of the "wait" in the middle that's like there for i guess dramatic effect. I don't like it and it stands out to me.

skitter: town read here, engaging just about everyone and everything

Milk: looks like he has been under fire to this point from a lot of folks. One thing I don't like though is that flurry of posts that were made there at the top of page 36. Especially considering since I've been called out for the lack of posts. Even without those milk isn't far off the mean though, so probably me feeling sorry for myself.

lady: made a good post imo about DLA and made me feel comfortable enough to sheep them.
DLA: I feel like they're attacking me because they came back, read a quick little bit, and noticed I was being getting some push. Felt like I'm the easiest person to target. So I'm happy my vote is here. Especially considering the post I just linked they claim something someone else says was "awful" and yet still made it out that I was the bad person out of it.

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At this point I've had very little interactions with players and without the back and forth I don't trust my reads. I have Wednesday and Thursday off so hopefully I can find some time to post with everyone in real time.

[DuckDuckJab]

@all - Except that triv lumped us in there with thor/a50 also. Just doesn't feel like a genuine read, just a dismissive, LAMIST, "let's move on guys, we're sll friends here" type post.
If omo hadn't been townie by tone I would have been aggressively pushing this. And tone is not that hard to fake.

But y'all aren't feeling it and I feel milk has been even worse this game. He's in a different reality.. the way he sees CT/us doesn't even make sense. He's not reading not sorting not engaging.

I will note that even though I have been picking out TMI tells and pushing them I think odds are these two are not both scum. I think it would be pretty rare for 3 scum (rob included) to all townspew the same player (a50) unless it was intentional, and I see no reason for a scum team to do that intentionally.

If milk gets votes I believe my p would be happy to switch our vote. Also I'd probably hammer dla if he gets to L-1 again.

-BuJ

[themilkcartonkid]

{ddj}
{CT, GE}
{Omochao, Lady angel}
{joges}
{skitter30, themilkcartonkid}
{DarkLightA, Flubbernugget}

about here fyi, it just feels bottom heavy but I'm not having an easy time calibrating my reads on these slots.

@milky when you're around next, given the metadive I did on you to see if you were mislynchable in that one newbie game do you think I should be townreading you? Why/why not? (this is the worst btw, quack quack)

skitter I've reached out to


DLA and Flubbz I need more real-time ans observation on, plus I want BuJ to help me get there


OK I'm ready. Bring on the onslaught.

I dont think I'm able to answer this. Honestly I dont know why I was town in that game to you.

[themilkcartonkid]

@all - Except that triv lumped us in there with thor/a50 also. Just doesn't feel like a genuine read, just a dismissive, LAMIST, "let's move on guys, we're sll friends here" type post.
If omo hadn't been townie by tone I would have been aggressively pushing this. And tone is not that hard to fake.

But y'all aren't feeling it and I feel milk has been even worse this game. He's in a different reality.. the way he sees CT/us doesn't even make sense. He's not reading not sorting not engaging.

I will note that even though I have been picking out TMI tells and pushing them I think odds are these two are not both scum. I think it would be pretty rare for 3 scum (rob included) to all townspew the same player (a50) unless it was intentional, and I see no reason for a scum team to do that intentionally.

If milk gets votes I believe my p would be happy to switch our vote. Also I'd probably hammer dla if he gets to L-1 again.

-BuJ

I'm sorry about the last few days, work starting up again is more than I thought it would be. I can probably get a readlist together in the next few days. FWIW, I do think that thors wagon is a good place to keep looking (i.e. dla then flub) but gamma and omo are picks off wagon because of sheeping patterns at eod continuing to today.
Cheeky is an absolute mystery because her play isn't very town nor scum

[DarkLightA]

Okay let’s not lynch me just yet.

First let me explain the hammer. I was away in a hut over New Years with lots of socialising and only phone WiFi in a small section of a staircase. This meant I had little to no time to read or do anything. As a result my actions were based on a rather rapid read. I didn’t actually realise I’d hammered until after others pointed this out.

I don't like this. Why would you vote for someone under these circumstances?

Because it was within an hour or so of the deadline and a lynch is infinitely better than no lynch. M

People are ignoring this and I don’t know if it’s wilfully or not.

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky is an absolute mystery because her play isn't very town nor scum

Stop trying to pocket me

[Lady Angel]

Okay let’s not lynch me just yet.

First let me explain the hammer. I was away in a hut over New Years with lots of socialising and only phone WiFi in a small section of a staircase. This meant I had little to no time to read or do anything. As a result my actions were based on a rather rapid read. I didn’t actually realise I’d hammered until after others pointed this out.

I don't like this. Why would you vote for someone under these circumstances?

Because it was within an hour or so of the deadline and a lynch is infinitely better than no lynch. M

People are ignoring this and I don’t know if it’s wilfully or not.

Why would you vote Robert, then change your vote to Thor when both of them were at L-1 and Robert probably could've been hammered before the deadline?

[DarkLightA]

I didn’t really care who got lynched, I didn’t have much of a read on either. Thor gave me a gut feel and so I went with him (and I actually thought it was L-1 there too as I missed the previous vote)

[DarkLightA]

I'll wait for the sake of DDJ, joges & Flubber who want more time. I hope the catch up/questioning yields something fruitful or I'll be kicking my own butt for not cutting the day short when -from my own PoV- it was best to do so because we are in a good position and I wanted to make it harder for scum to sniff for more info.

How do you feel about me saying I didn’t think I was hammering? Do you think I it’s bullshit that someone can be so inattentive to the thread?

I've done it before.. BOTH ways. I did hammer someone without realizing it (and as both alignments) and I also did fake not knowing I was hammering someone whom I was indeed very aware I was hammering (but only as scum).

In short; it matters not much to me. What does is that you switched off Robert and unto Thor in a time that they both were @L-1 with 1 non-voter to decide the lynch, and I don't see how you could've SR'd them both yet opted to join the smaller of the two wagons. Furthermore, we have the flips of the two now so it looks shady at best, or a scum move at worst.

Fair enough. I was just pointing out the irony that I was taken off L-1 and you were still threatening to hammer.

[Omochao]

but gamma and omo are picks off wagon because of sheeping patterns at eod continuing to today.

til I was off the thor wagon

[themilkcartonkid]

but gamma and omo are picks off wagon because of sheeping patterns at eod continuing to today.

til I was off the thor wagon

This is what I get for mobile.

[themilkcartonkid]

Okay let’s not lynch me just yet.

First let me explain the hammer. I was away in a hut over New Years with lots of socialising and only phone WiFi in a small section of a staircase. This meant I had little to no time to read or do anything. As a result my actions were based on a rather rapid read. I didn’t actually realise I’d hammered until after others pointed this out.

I don't like this. Why would you vote for someone under these circumstances?

Because it was within an hour or so of the deadline and a lynch is infinitely better than no lynch. M

People are ignoring this and I don’t know if it’s wilfully or not.

Why would you vote Robert, then change your vote to Thor when both of them were at L-1 and Robert probably could've been hammered before the deadline?

This is a very good post

[Jingle]

Vote Count 2.3

Flavor to be added.

With 11 Alive, it is 6 to Lynch!

DarkLightA: (4) joges (871), themilkcartonkid (877), CheekyTeeky (906), Lady Angel (909),
Lady Angel: (1) Flubbernugget (838),
themilkcartonkid: (1) Omochao (854),
Flubbernugget: (1) DuckDuckJab (921),
skitter30: (0)
CheekyTeeky: (0)
Omochao: (0)
Gamma Emerald: (0)
DuckDuckJab: (0)
joges: (0)
Almost50: (0)

Not Voting (4): Gamma Emerald, DarkLightA, Almost50, skitter30 (940)


Deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2019-01-19 13:00:00).

Important Notes:
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The Game is currently in Day 2.

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skitter30 is permanently V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays.

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Omochao is V/LA until 1/15/19.

[DarkLightA]

Okay let’s not lynch me just yet.

First let me explain the hammer. I was away in a hut over New Years with lots of socialising and only phone WiFi in a small section of a staircase. This meant I had little to no time to read or do anything. As a result my actions were based on a rather rapid read. I didn’t actually realise I’d hammered until after others pointed this out.

I don't like this. Why would you vote for someone under these circumstances?

Because it was within an hour or so of the deadline and a lynch is infinitely better than no lynch. M

People are ignoring this and I don’t know if it’s wilfully or not.

Why would you vote Robert, then change your vote to Thor when both of them were at L-1 and Robert probably could've been hammered before the deadline?

This is a very good post

You really haven’t thought through your vote on me at all have you?

[themilkcartonkid]

I'm for a lucky scum right now though tbh so VOTE: dla

Somehow messed that up, it's supposed to say "lurky " instead of lucky

There was a lurky player getting votes when I suspected a lurky scum. Good enough for daystart. I didnt vote you for eod stuff, I voted you for during the day stuff. This is a good point about eod that I hadn't thought about.

[DarkLightA]

But you didn’t seem to worry about it going to a lynch, is that right?