Newbie 1910: Aerial Photography [Game Over!]

[northsidegal]

VC 2.5

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[3] YellowSnow

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Junk 594, JunkoChan 629, brassherald 842

[2] Junk

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GrandWazoo 705, YellowSnow 830

[1] GuiltyLion

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u r a person 2 795

[1] Not Voting

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GuiltyLion

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

The Day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-01-18 15:01:59)

Mod Notes

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[YellowSnow]

Oh yeah I did change to Junk. my bad.

[GrandWazoo]

@brass: Some quick points.

1. Last I checked Yellow is voting Junk now, not me.

2. Yellow is doing Yellow things. Making sense and applying logic aren't among them.

3. Junk ragequit. That's scumspeak for "I'm busted."

[brassherald]

I've made my town BH argument in every post I have made so far, I don't need to condense it into a Reader's Digest version for you.

I know I'm town, and I will not case myself because it's a waste of my time. And my time is valuable.

But the actual issue here is that you are confusing an argument that uses the fact that I know I am town to show that you are scum rather than trying to make a case that you are scum. Your voting patterns make no sense coming from town anyway. You believe that GL/GW and I are scum yet vote Junk. You believe GW is scum because I am scum helping him along, yet never voted me, as explained above. If your basis for the GW read is that I'm scum, you should vote me before GW, but you are not trying to solve the game, you are trying to push town lynches here.

[YellowSnow]

I'm using the same logic that you are for Junk, GW. My scum order is Junk>GL>BH>GW.

[brassherald]

3. Junk ragequit. That's scumspeak for "I'm busted."

I disagree, I constantly rage out of threads, and more often as town because I actually like being town.

[brassherald]

I'm using the same logic that you are for Junk, GW. My scum order is Junk>GL>BH>GW.

We don't have 4 lynches.

[Junk]

u r person votes me probably

sad that minimum 1 town plays mafia on this level

@guilty lion

u decide today's lynch between me and yellowsnow

pls make it fast

[YellowSnow]

Ok Junk is putting all his eggs into the "lets get Yellow's scum reads to vote for Yellow bucket".

[Junk]

if i get lynched my legacy is to lynch yellow snow and GW

if thats wrong its not my fault since u guys not only atrociously made me claim D1, but or trying to lynch me D2 aswell. take this loss, and reflect on it.

[GrandWazoo]

3. Junk ragequit. That's scumspeak for "I'm busted."

I disagree, I constantly rage out of threads, and more often as town because I actually like being town.

OK, that's something I don't do unless I'm so bored I can't justify wasting another minute on the game, which isn't the case here, but have seen it more often from scum.

Anyway, does your case on yellow go much beyond his admittedly (and typically) inchoate scumread on me? Is it more persuasive than my take on Junk? You seemed to be coming around to my POV there, and you put Nineja at L-1 earlier.

[YellowSnow]

No need to be so defensive, GW, you're fourth on my scum list.

[GuiltyLion]

@guilty lion

u decide today's lynch between me and yellowsnow

pls make it fast

I mean it's gonna be yellow every time

the only argument for town!YS is the repeated dumbtells but I feel that argument invalidates itself - if he were scum that knew Junk is town!doc and needed (as Junk opened today by pushing on him) to push him D2 then faking a dumbtell is a completely fitting hypothesis/explanation for that behavior. There's nothing in his posts that strikes me as unfakeably town. I looked through his town game and while it does vibe similar to this one, I also feel he was more on the ball with his scumreads, more transparent with his thoughts in multiple instances, and didn't go all over the place with votes/scumreads as he's doing here. He also made this post in that game:

"looking for towncred"
"struggling with clear thinking"
"making logical mistakes"
"meltdown"
"coached"

none of these are true.

which shows me that he's aware of how language can be manipulated to paint someone in an excessively negative light - which I've called out multiple times in his game here. callouts that he's repeatedly ignored and never attempted to defend

intent to hammer YellowSnow

anything else we need to discuss today? I think this wagon is all-town as well which makes me feel good here too

[GuiltyLion]

813 is a weird post. I'm talking to URAP2 throughout yet GW jumps in as if I'm talking to him - especially his response to my talking with URAP2 about how I'm not interested in towncasing myself. It feels overly self-aware and like he's cherrypicking things to comment on and missing the context of my post

[GuiltyLion]

Could you point me to those posts about pr's and claims and what not? that's a big deal.

here

VOTE: computerfan0

I live on the moment.

... watch computerfan flip doctor or another PR

That would be unfortunate.

If he's a power role and he played the way he did that's on him. He was not going to contribute in any meaningful way and he knew what he was doing.

Junko explicitly said

doctor or another PR

which was in response to Junk claiming doctor. and Yellow was present in the thread at the time

[YellowSnow]

Chan you should unvote unless you want to lose another townie. I officially claim vanilla town.

[u r a person 2]

Junko explicitly said doctor or another PR which was in response to Junk claiming doctor. and Yellow was present in the thread at the time

This would cause me, if I were YS, to examine the setup. I'm not sure that this in itself shows that YS understood the setup.

Regardless, I hope you're correct about scum!YS. I'd like you to be town.

Hey GL, what's the case on town junko from your perspective? That's the only slot I haven't gone back over at all since doing my catch up

[JunkoChan]

Chan you should unvote unless you want to lose another townie. I officially claim vanilla town.

You do realize this claim is meaningless right? we got no more power roles so we are all vanilla townies, unless someone is gamethrowing which would be the strawberry on this game's cake

I'm okay with my vote here.

[JunkoChan]

My point is that everyone will say that they are town. You saying you are town says nothing and moves the game nowhere. And your assertation is incorrect and if anything, preys on new players unability to think critically.

I remembered how "scumhunter" you wanted to seem during early day one and found this, your own words, coming back to bite you in the ass,

[u r a person 2]

I really think YS flips town here

Tomorrow ya'll need a come to jesus - or your choice of religious or spiritual... things - moment about GL and Junk

Don't let em 3-0 you

[YellowSnow]

This is a completely different situation than that. I am being wagaoned based on my playstyle alone and have done a lot more than just say I am town.

[u r a person 2]

Yellow, if you're town you should re write all of your reads and the direction you would have us take D3 in your absence

[JunkoChan]

Don't let em 3-0 you

I honestly think Junk is town, as much as I would like to believe that he could come up with such a big play in a matter of a few minutes (when he claimed there was a real time discussion from several people) is not realistic to me, after thinking about it I agree it's possible that we could be in C1 and he fooled us, tbh props to him if he did but I don't think that someone as emotional as him would do something like that during a moment of heat

[u r a person 2]

I hear you Junko, but he replaced in at L-1 so either

his partner could have already worked out the best claim strat for him and had it in scum chat waiting for the replacement

or

he could have worked out the best strat when he was entering the thread in case he couldn't get out of it.

He didn't have to think it up on the spot.

[YellowSnow]

Junk and gl are scum. That is all you need to know.