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Maki Harukawa Mafia Scum
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Correct why do you find this scummy? If the mod put in a ton of millers of course the first few claims are gonna be likely townread. It's basically a game of outguess the mod so I ignored it. I do think I'm gonna read people based on posting not the claims.In post 116, Pink Ball wrote:you couldn't know there was more Millers. Maki suggesting (even as a "stretch) that maybe the mafia team knew about the Millers is basically trying to not discard the posibility of you being the scumKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Because I went agaist the popular thought at the moment and put discredit on people who were almost 'lock town.' Of course, I'm gonna get shit for that but I'm not gonna shut up for it.
Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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What do you like about Creatures catch upIn post 199, Frozen Angel wrote:I like creature catch up
Yeah I'm not sure if it was to discredit me. I just think her reaction and tone would be similar to how scum would possibly react to "a bunch of people who got free credits for claiming miller" so i voted her.In post 166, Pink Ball wrote:
Maki's speculation of mafia knowing about the Millers beforehand is lowkey trying to make Frozen Angel's Miller claim not obvtown, which it is because Frozen Angel didn't know that there was going to be three other claims.In post 165, Alchemist21 wrote:
I don’t understand it.In post 154, Pink Ball wrote:
You don't see it like... You didn't see my post about her, or you don't understand it?In post 153, Alchemist21 wrote:I still don’t see why you’re voting Maki.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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You know given all the reactions I've got from that vote I don't even think I should explain why I did it.In post 221, Lady Angel wrote:Pink's vote was better than Maki's the other way, which was more or less OMGUS.
Now that said reactions have happened. I know I can't get a FA wagon for at least a few days so let's see
VOTE: Wisdom
This feels goodKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Your posts are literally some of the worst I've ever seen from you period. You were the first miller claim so I know that's not happening anytime soon so I can't do much.
Pedit: actually no the post was full theory your posts after I said the theory is what I have issues with.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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You're putting words in my mouth for no reason. Hopefully when you're not dead later in the game people wagon you but I know for a fact it won't happen today so I'll go for another scumread that I think people will vote.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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This whole post is putting words in my mouth because I never did thisIn post 229, Frozen Angel wrote:So you're confirming that you wanted to go against me when you said that about millers? you were not just theorizing possibilities you really wanted to go against me and throw dirt at me.
But why? can you explain why you felt you need to go against me and wagon me in first place? and that you're not allowed to do it rn cause its not a popular thought is ehKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Your iso is full of really shallow questions that you don't follow up on expect 1 post?
Your reason for voting me is weak and something I can't even defend against
Creatures catch up wasn't anything great at all.
Plus this interaction.
Yup feeling pretty goodKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Because it was a theory of me going 'hey guys maybe the millers aren't lock town!' This wasn't made at you this was made at every single miller It was a theory post. I wanted to know what people thought about it. I myself am reading the millers as if they're VT and just going by play and I think others should do the same but hey people aren't me.In post 236, Frozen Angel wrote:
you said this.In post 224, Maki Harukawa wrote:Because I went agaist the popular thought at the moment andput discredit on people who were almost 'lock town.'Of course, I'm gonna get shit for that but I'm not gonna shut up for it.
I said you confirmed you said that to discredit me how is that putting word in your mouth you said it yourselfKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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That's fine! Asking questions like that is fine. When you have no follow up to the questions it just looks empty like you're not doing anything. Also am I really suppose to remember that about your meta FA? When's the last game we played together as town cause I certainly can't remember can you?In post 238, Frozen Angel wrote:I never start the game with strong reads. You - claire you know how I ask random shallow questions to make conversations and to find a grasp of the game. that is my playstyle. and you're throwing that at me
Asking around for what others think when you're voting me already to get a sense of the wagon to see if it'll go through is really bad in and of itself. You voted me because of my comment on the millers you clearly thought I was shading you (as you said so in other posts) so you want to get rid of me.In post 238, Frozen Angel wrote:- Tell me what is my reason for voting you that you're calling it bad. I said a little bit earlier about it but I never explained it fully - on purpose - and as you can see I was asking around about others to see why are they voting you or don't like voting you. So What is my reason for voting you that you're calling it weak?
Angry? I'm not angry what so ever I have no reason to be angry. Also this is pretty damning coming from you so let me throw your point right back at you. When have you everIn post 238, Frozen Angel wrote:this interaction is showing you're desprate and nervous and extremly omgusy and that plus your robotic and very angry attidue when you were dealing with the mass miller claims and the way you theroized about it and your general tone makes me suspect you even more.everseen scum me desperate or nervous? You won't be able to name one time because I'm never nervous as scum. I know my scum game is good and I'm confident in it. You know this too so now I know you're just saying things to fit your agenda.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Because when I flip town the way Wisdom is playing he's gonna get pretty much the least blood on his hands for my wagon.In post 248, Chara wrote:
why is this scummy if he's scumreading you?In post 227, Maki Harukawa wrote:Wisdoms sideline play letting everyone talk yet still letting the wagon carry on is really bad.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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It wasn't bad but it wasn't something Creature can't make as scum that's why I asked why FA liked it so muchIn post 251, Chara wrote:
i find this kind of an empty thing to ask, Maki, when Creature's opening was fine and normal for town-him. i said the same thing about it.In post 225, Maki Harukawa wrote:What do you like about Creatures catch up
I feel like dave is just the type of person to get annoyed by noise in general NAI imo.In post 274, Alchemist21 wrote:Dave’s is honestly hard to explain but the post where he complained about the noise-signal ratio is what gave me the Townread.
It’s been a while since I played with fire but he always made more serious posts as Town and only made lolposts as scum. Also the super duper secret meta that Fire and I are always the same alignment.
I'll be waiting~In post 276, Nikk wrote:Maki is a big scumread to me based on interactions. Will post a more in depth read as I reread. Staying caught up on this game has been more difficult than I thought, but one more reread should do it.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Hm is the person voting without reasoning have serious reason and just not stating it or is it just a vote without reason?In post 312, Nikk wrote:Hey Maki, a question:
Is it better to vote without reasoning or to provide reasoning without a vote?
I think I go with provide reasoning without a vote. While I see the obvious scum benefit this has waiting for an answer from the person the reasoning is about is also valid.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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You said the same thing to me so is dave scum or 'badtown.'In post 372, Wisdom wrote:dave you should know betterKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Eh fair. No I townread sheep.In post 375, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 364, Maki Harukawa wrote:I think so? Reading you is hell but I think so.
So you're either null on or town reading whoever you're not voting?In post 366, Maki Harukawa wrote:Considering I'm not voting you that should answer it eh.
I don't like wisdom in this page - he doesn't have "fire"Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Town Wisdom would be more vocal and spearheading my lynch.In post 411, Chara wrote:In post 294, Chara wrote:
i don't know, the only content of his entire ISO is "lynch Maki". and he isn't the type of player one tends to ignore in a game, for better or for worse.In post 278, Maki Harukawa wrote:
Because when I flip town the way Wisdom is playing he's gonna get pretty much the least blood on his hands for my wagon.In post 248, Chara wrote:
why is this scummy if he's scumreading you?In post 227, Maki Harukawa wrote:Wisdoms sideline play letting everyone talk yet still letting the wagon carry on is really bad.
what would town Wisdom who scumreads you be doing differently?
hey Maki?In post 301, Chara wrote:what's your read on sheep FA?
Maki's preliminary read on Kaito would help me out too.
pedit: i'd like to hear what Maki has to say first, so i appreciate you not answering yet. :>
What are you wanting me to answer in the second quote? My Kaito read?Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Kaito read doesn't exist right now.In post 416, Chara wrote:yeah Maki, sorry that wasn't clear.
Kaito: ignoring my questions and dancing around voting me back is a bad look. square up.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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So you think it's impossible for town me to think you're scum for the thing you're doing? What would town me be doing here then wisdom. You've played enough games with me to give an answer.In post 435, Wisdom wrote:
"Town Wisdom would" statements are for newbies who think its possible to meta meIn post 414, Maki Harukawa wrote:Town Wisdom would
Not for someone with lots of games with me
Chara has fewer games with me than you have yet she gets it
And given youre not dumb, it follows youre an insincere scumKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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AgreedIn post 464, Wisdom wrote:chara is townish
k elsa is townIn post 470, Elsa Jay wrote:Would any of you scumread me for voting Wisdom despite me townreading him hard? Probably, but imma do it anyway.
VOTE: Wisdom
Because 5 is better then 4.
I think this is trademark Elsa I don't think it makes them anymore obv scum if anything it's towny.In post 480, Chara wrote:
this is sort of why Elsa needs a bullet.In post 470, Elsa Jay wrote:Would any of you scumread me for voting Wisdom despite me townreading him hard? Probably, but imma do it anyway.
VOTE: Wisdom
Because 5 is better then 4.
and voting any wagon that moved was his survivor play.Did you unvote because of Elsa? This is extremely normal for them.
I like this thought process the read I can somewhat get behind. I'd need to focus more but for now it's not badIn post 496, Chara wrote:here's the situation with Kaito. he caught my attention early on, caught my vote a bit later.
he voted Maki early on, never elaborated though i kept asking. agreed with her Wisdom vote and changed to that wagon, and has also been calling me scummy all game. no vote on me though. 194 is just a bad post, and his meta on Wisdom is weak, because he's capable of not playing this weakly as scum. he doesn't have links for it either, and the justification is just vague
also awkward that Maki was who he was voting earlier with no explanation.
"trying too hard to show i'm town", i thought this might be a thought that came from town Kaito, but susbsequent interactions cleared that pretty quickly. now i just think he's avoiding a battle he knows he'll lose and hoping i lose interest/give up.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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PREACHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ELSAIn post 523, Elsa Jay wrote:And why are you discrediting the idea so early, then? I mean, a game of Millers is surely something that doesn't come up everyday.
Mafia being informed seems viable enough unless you know for sure they're not. Which means your close minded on the idea, or are absolute positive it's not true because of your role.
Which is it?
Your reads are just outright wrong and your push is even worse. The people who you're setting to lynch is really gross. This makes me think you could be scum and I'm wrong on wisdom. Your play around his slot has been ? The fact you went back on me is very opportunistic.In post 524, Nikk wrote:Here's where I am at now...
1. Wisdom appears to just be this way, and focusing on players who always act suspicious is bad town play
2. IF Maki flips town there is a decent reason to circle back to Wisdom and perhaps even Chara at that time.
3. IF Maki flips scum Elsa Jay is a decent next run.
I don't see us learning as much from flipping Wisdom. It just seems more flimsy then what we learn from a Maki push.
VOTE: Maki
@WisdomHey I was wrong let's lynch the real scum who's been making us fight half the day.
More like someone is trying to explain one point to you and you're taking it as another so it's getting super annoying.In post 535, Nikk wrote:This is a shockingly defensive response to me basically saying I read Elsa and Maki as scum team.
Do you feel I have enough sway to lead town?Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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I can't tell if I like this post or not. It's an objectively correct post but is it worth townreading? I don't knowIn post 545, davesaz wrote:
Here's what I mean by the wrong assumption / missing conclusion.In post 519, Elsa Jay wrote:I feel like mafia informed Maki wouldnt bring up the option of mafia being informed about the millers. Seems stupid to even mention the possibility and fuck over your teammate claiming it.
Maki, if Mafia, could bring up the miller thing if all of the claimed millers are town (unfounded assumption is that one or more miller is scum). This is true whether informed of the multiple millers or not. In fact this leads to a pretty strong missing conclusion that if Maki is mafia, the millers are much more likely to be all town. Not strong enough to consider anyone conf, but still pretty strong.
My opinion:
Maki, if Town, is absolutely correct to state that if mafia were informed of multiple millers then even the first miller claim is suspect. Since we don't know that mafia aren't informed, we can't consider any of the millers to be beyond suspicion based solely on the miller claim.
Here's why scum might push Maki as town for having the above correct suspicions.
Scum might push town!Maki if all of the millers are town, to try to force us to lynch Maki and a majority of the millers.In post 565, Clemency wrote:
i'm very paranoid about being pocketed by elsa like usual, but i'm gonna say that's a townlean for nowIn post 562, Pink Ball wrote:How are your reads going my sweet sweet Clem?
so by that i'm scumleaning nikk by principle
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you're 100% town because of the mambo incident
i'm not kidding
i will never vote you
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fa is still a townlean
i'm more passive with reads than i look
Clem can be town based on town.In post 579, Clemency wrote:we have a hydra and he pockets me a lot, it's kinda force of habitKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Still can't read me and you'd be townreading me if I was scum. We both know this to be true I also know you townread me when I make posts like this so let's skip the whole part and you unvote me. K? Ok.In post 607, Firebringer wrote:i skimmed through maki iso and i agree with wisdom that it is scummy.
VOTE: makiIn post 620, Creature wrote:Maki is also boring
Get better loser <3In post 629, Frozen Angel wrote:I have a fever and very likely a cold and I've been sick all day plus I had a lot of stuff to do irl hence my absence today.
Its very likely similar tomorrow unless if I feel better
sovla for like 48 hours
I find it hard to believe through that whole read. What to me was if not the most telling pages yet. You thought it was all noise?In post 638, Alchemist21 wrote:
All of it, though I was doing other stuff too for parts of it so it's possible I missed something important but I don't think I did.In post 634, davesaz wrote:Alchemist, how much did you actually read?Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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I really dislike the confidence in your posting about me Chara. You've never had a confident read on me ever. So you having one here is ???In post 1052, Chara wrote:Maki isn't towntelling. and she's someone i'm always hesitant to lynch for a few reasons.
Maki's scumread on Wisdom isn't based on him incorrectly reading her, but on doing so without getting his hands dirty. i said this earlier, but he voted her and continued to encourage votes on her, and i don't see how that isn't leading a lynch. what else should he be doing?
he also isn't scumreading her for the miller comment. nothing in his ISO indicates that.
i didn't like her reach out to Wisdom either, like she wanted to springboard off of Nikk's 524 to get a mislynch there and try to get him to change tracks. it didn't feel good to me.
she didn't bring up my Kaito read again after saying she liked it. it's posts like that that make me wonder if they're teamed, because their play around each other has felt strange on both sides.
279 felt dishonest, because Maki is saying she was digging at FA's Creature read, and that his catchup wasn't bad but could also have been performed by scum Creature. earlier she uses FA's Creature read as a reason to scumread her, like it's an odd one to have, but when i approached her about it felt like a walkback.
-Wisdom only started 'leading' the lynch on me when I called him out for it really. He just said to vote me once after he voted me. I then call him out on it and he's all of a sudden on me all the time.
-What about me readjusting my stances screams scummy to you? You're acting like it's impossible for me to reconsider my stances on the game. I felt Nikk was taking advantage of the game state so I voted him.
-Am I suppose to bring up Kaito in every post or something? I really don't care about him this game I'm more so focused on my confident scumreads. If I was teamed with Kaito I'd make a confident stance and get credit regardless. Because we all know everyone would listen to whatever stance I made on Kaito.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Can't I ask you the same thing about me? I'm pretty good at scum and I get ml'd as town all the time.In post 1065, Wisdom wrote:
and i cant do better than this as scum?In post 1062, Alchemist21 wrote:
I know you can do better than this as Town. The way you’re playing feels like lazy scum play.In post 1050, Wisdom wrote:
lolIn post 1048, davesaz wrote:I'm absolutely never voting Maki unless Wisdom gives an actual reason.
you and alchemist are really good at scumhunting
"maki isnt scum because I dislike wisdom's playstyle"
a+Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Because the way Nikks played around Wisdom felt gross to me (and I said that already but I think you're not reading) I think wisdoms play over all is scummy and his reactions are trash. So yeah I can still see it I just think if Nikk is scum Wisdom isn't.In post 1093, Chara wrote:t's not impossible to reconsider, but i don't understand why you did. you mentioned Nikk's posting as a reason to change your read on Wisdom, do you still think the way he's been playing is indicative of scum Wisdom or no? and you haven't explained why Nikk was "making you and Wisdom fight all game".
I'm so sorry that I've been dealing with irl stuff that I forgot to revisit my Kaito read. Shame on me hang me up!In post 1093, Chara wrote:as for your Kaito read: you don't need to mention him all of the time, when you said you had no read there i didn't ask again. but then you said you liked my reasoning and would revisit it: what happened to that?
and hypothetical you and scum Kaito teamed: what do you mean you'd make a confident stance? if it's a townread, you're right in that i would listen. i don't see what you're saying, though. that you aren't teamed because scum you would have given an explicit and confident read there?
Yes I am saying that I'm not scum with Kaito (or at all) because scum me would give a very clear confident answer. I got mislynched because I didn't give a clear answer on dunn a few games ago ironically.
My posting has been quite half ass given I've posted mostly to avoid prods cause of reasoning until rn so I would say it has beenIn post 1093, Chara wrote:t's true you're pretty good at scum, and i've mislynched you before. but i don't exactly think you're playing badly here and i haven't seen anyone say you are, so i don't know why you're comparing yourself to Wisdom being called lazy.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Because if Nikk flips scum Wisdom isn't so I rather wagon there. Could I be scum going for a double ML? Sure I think that's what wisdom thinks (or at least is gonna say) but I still gave out the chanceIn post 1094, Pink Ball wrote:
Why did you ask Wisdom to change to Nikk if you want to wagon Wisdom too?In post 1092, Maki Harukawa wrote:Can we please wagon Nikk or wisdom with a strong pref for Nikk
I think the fact you're so confident given you're history on me is the most stupid thing I've read and I don't know how you have this confidence rn it's like...you gonna ml me over and over until you get it right Chara?In post 1095, Chara wrote:
are you referring to the post you quoted where i explain my bad feelings?In post 1088, Maki Harukawa wrote:I really dislike the confidence in your posting about me Chara. You've never had a confident read on me ever. So you having one here is ???
i honestly don't know how to respond to this. sorry if i'm wrong? i also don't feel all that confident so i'm wondering where you got the impression i was on you in particular.
i know i've mislynched you before due to a lack of confidence in a townread, i'm very aware of that.
Sure.In post 1096, Chara wrote:
it's more the difference in treatment about the Creature read between FA and myself, considering i agreed with her read explicitly and brought that up to you. is it also a scumtell for me when i have plenty of experience with Creature?In post 1089, Maki Harukawa wrote:Also it is an odd read one to have (regarding creature) because it's a post scum creature can make lolKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Maybe you should change the way you read me because it's not working. You keep using the same tactics over and over and it never works.
If you townread me you second guess it because I can be good at scum
If you scumread me you don't second guess it at all and push it through
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You say you see Wisdom as scum still in this post and yet the way you're talking to him. Trusting what he's saying etc feels like you're talking to someone you know will flip town. Combined with the fact you still sr him but 8 posts later.In post 516, Nikk wrote:
I'll trust your .... Wisdom on thatIn post 515, Wisdom wrote:yeah
Eh? Eh?
Okay but really thanks for answering the questions, I still see you as scum right now but at least we can play a bit.
We get this. You flip to me when you're not even stating you're scumreading me. You're openly pushing someone you don't scumread at the moment here compared to someone Nikki said he does scumread. What does this read like to you guys? To me it's someone who was scared to push town wisdom lynch through. Or he thought I would be a better ML and would set up Wisdom for tomorrowIn post 524, Nikk wrote:Here's where I am at now...
1. Wisdom appears to just be this way, and focusing on players who always act suspicious is bad town play
2. IF Maki flips town there is a decent reason to circle back to Wisdom and perhaps even Chara at that time.
3. IF Maki flips scum Elsa Jay is a decent next run.
I don't see us learning as much from flipping Wisdom. It just seems more flimsy then what we learn from a Maki push.
VOTE: Maki
This doesn't feel like partner/partner interaction just wanted to point it out.In post 558, Nikk wrote:
We get it youIn post 557, Wisdom wrote:i have one scumread and a million dumb readsvapewant us to vote MakiStuff like this buddy buddy reads like he 100% dropped the wisdom scumread and is just pure focus on me now. It's just strange
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I feel like you were hinting at thinking I was scum before in the thread or at least said you'd vote me. The way you posted your mini case on me I was reading in a way that had a lot of confidence in it. So it didn't feel like you were second guessing anything at all.In post 1104, Chara wrote:why are you thinking i'm not second-guessing the read on you at all? (before i unvoted, obviously.) you were busy by the time i came around to the read so i never had time to talk to you about it, and i wanted to see your catchup before i did. (that didn't work out due to wanting to talk about it without rushing the end of day.)
this is the first chance we've had to talk and this is also the first time i've actually talked about why i'm scumreading you with the thread.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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It's theIn post 1125, Chara wrote:about Wisdom: what was bad about his response to pressure? insulting the players scumreading him seems in character to me, but it sounds like you have more experience.onlything he's doing. Any defense is just insults and 'you can't read me' it's just blah overall. Also he can only say he's sure I'm scum because hint: He has no real reasons.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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You're right I've seen both. I wouldn't push you if that was the only factorIn post 1144, Wisdom wrote:youve seen me withholding reasons a zillion times
arguing i dont actually have reasons cannot possibly be sincereKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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Terrible he did the exact same thing in a scum game a bit ago it's not something you should tr him based off ofIn post 1146, Chara wrote:Maki, i've decided to townread Kaito being unhelpful and snarky because he's seemed more logical and careful as scum in a few games, and "rougher" as town.
would you consider that an okay metric or a terrible one?Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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NullIn post 1151, Chara wrote:
and: do you think Kaito's badposting here is scummy or null, then.In post 1148, Maki Harukawa wrote:
Terrible he did the exact same thing in a scum game a bit ago it's not something you should tr him based off ofIn post 1146, Chara wrote:Maki, i've decided to townread Kaito being unhelpful and snarky because he's seemed more logical and careful as scum in a few games, and "rougher" as town.
would you consider that an okay metric or a terrible one?Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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I don't think you have them regardless of what your ali is. You state you can read me: You can't. So if you're town you have no reason and if you're scum you're just making shit upIn post 1150, Wisdom wrote:why you push me is irrelevant
you are stating that i am not giving reasons because I don't have them and thats insincere and just a narrative you want to pushKids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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I think the minion is town, but deadlineIn post 1311, Elsa Jay wrote:Maki plz. Don't kill my minion. He's good at massages. He'll give you a massage, free of charge.Kids are...weird. They come to me on their own. I'm not that good at taking care of them... I'm not that friendly either."-
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