“Kmd, varsoon, and mbaki I consider cleared from the mass claim. It's possible that one of these could be a mafia goon however, I also townread them for other reasons which I've briefly touched on here. Creature is town.”
No not really. They just have less chance of flipping scum here. Tbh, that would more likely indicate ascetic-scum because then the hypothetical goon doesn’t have to make a move.
Creature: 2522: “Varsoon, Kmd or DDL scum”
Creature’s reads for reference. Townreads Oka.
“@Oka: Keep lying--I wanted to go last, with Creature right before me. You insisted otherwise. I still resent you for that.”
This is in fact true iirc. And I can see a reason to get mad over such an obvious false reason.
“I'm still trying to work out who the second scum is, however Creature does seem to have a point about a possible Oka/Varsoon team due to the amount of what appears to be flailing going on ITT.”
Again I just can’t scumread varsoon both from setup specs AND the inherent riskiness of the claim after Suka’s following claim
“if you want but you're the only confident town read I have and I have hashed everything out with the others already.”
“I'm not "giving up", but I have spent a LOT of effort on this game and these votes are a slap in the face.”
Say you are town. Is it worse at endgame and I show green and your effort has been worthless? PS its deeply concerning you dont have any other town-reads other than obv-claim town?
“I agree that there is one scum in the ascetic, and commuter claims. It is not the commuter.”
X-shot Commuter and UB doesn’t make sense. If you think creature is town, then you need to discount town-varsoon. read
I'll wait for DDL to post his catch up. After that, we can look at the better lynch between the two.
I’m likely not moving from mbaki. This is scum flail not town flail I think.
Do let me know if anyone wants me to highlight and explain any logic/thought process on mbaki's case. Not the ambiguous type like “tone has shifted” please.
“He town read me to let me loltunnel three town lynches (although really, I had nothing to do with the BEF lynch, he was l-1 before I read the thread). Once my bad reads were exhausted, he switched gears completely. I commented on his callout of 2008 being bad at the time, too.”
Yes – that’s absolutely a natural level of thought process. You are town until he pushed one too many scum.
“His suggestion that the mislynches are my fault is also ludicrous. He was a big advocate of lynching BEF, and didn't even defend Vork. Hell, probably one of his longest posts this game:”
I was wrong on BEF. That doesn’t make me scum.
“Since most of us are scumreading Oka, it makes sense to lynch there to relieve some pressure.”
No. Almost surely no.
“I will not be alive tomorrow, but I believe it would be in town's best interest to lynch in DDL, and mbaki, who are almost certainly SvT. Both of these players had strange connections with the flipped traitor RC; mbaki's implications were worse imo.”
Should solve this today almost surely. With one of our flip, the other one should be very likely confirmed, which would also help with the progression of the game.
“Varsoon clearly has no team. Creature is Creature. Kmd doesn't look to be setting up for anything. Oka, DDL, and mbaki, on the otherhand are all distancing, while soft pushing each other.”
I’m unconvinced about creature here still.
I’ll actually read Oka’s manifesto, but probably later today after a few drinks.
