Open 745: 9:12 [Game Over]

[Slaxx]

Does goon bus the RB that hard when they’re both in the lynch pool?

[Slaxx]

There’s just so little to go off of re: Vizzy and SA and the question is: is that by design?

[kitcat]

so the thing is that they know that there's a vanilla cop or town rolecop if scum have an rb; both of which are effectively cops if the goon flips becaause a vanilla result is an inno if the remaining scum is a pr

if they thought the rb was likely to get checked (ie and get guiltied) but didn't know who the vanillacop/town rolecop were (ie so they couldn't nk/rb them) then yeah, maybe

i think coa might view it this way, vizzy wouldn't

[kitcat]

i've never played with sa before; i have no sense about how he approaches things so idk

vizzy i'm pretty sure just townreads relatively strong scumpartners (ie how he treated me in both games), but i think his tendency is to ignore mentioning them if he's not specifically asked about them and/or they aren't something he needs to take an immediate stance on

[Slaxx]

Oh damn good point

[Slaxx]

I’m gonna pretend that I’m not thinking of this stuff because it’s very late here and you’re on your fancy west coast time

[skitter30]

lol, go to bed
we have like a week to figure it out

[kitcat]

lol, go to bed
we have like a week to figure it out

[CultOfAthena]

Hey. Gonna read up fully in the morning, although I skimmed a bit.

[CultOfAthena]

I mean, not that I expect much to actually change my mind at this point, but at least to respond to things.

[Invisibility]

im ok with lynching eragon or cult

[Slaxx]

im ok with lynching eragon or cult

[kitcat]

im ok with lynching eragon or cult

can you claim now please?

and like ... yes? if you don't cc slaxx, me and slaxx are clear so from you're pov it has to be eragon or cult
this isn't very helpful in trying to figure out which of them it is

[Invisibility]

oh yeah I’m vt
I’m not exactly sure how to be useful

[Slaxx]

oh yeah I’m vt
I’m not exactly sure how to be useful

Me, everywhere but mafia

[Invisibility]

also I’ve Townsend eragon more than cult in the past so I’d rather lead with cult

[Invisibility]

townread*

[kitcat]

OK
i think at this point we should give coa a chance to say her bit
atm i'm tending to coa > eragon > vizzy

and i'll recheck gerrymandering and iso vizzy over the weekend at some point

and then me/slaxx can figure out the order of lynches

[Slaxx]

I agree I think.

I’m still wrapping my mind around whether the negative associations with SA are worse than none.

[Slaxx]

hi
VOTE: sleepless
my nullreads are rooroo, coa, and sa
out of the three, coa is probably the worst
he hasnt presented that much original thought and also has done some weird shading ("There's no good reason for town not to share these thoughts.")
in fact i might put sleepless to scumlean
also im not really taking into account the pink ball nk
i mean it kinda makes sense if you think a scum doesnt like pinku because he might be a durdley PR trying not to reveal info and draw the NK
in fact it kinda makes sense for sleepless for force pink's hand and drop a few PR pings
yeah that makes sense

i meant to say sa yeah

Actually this might clear Vizzy lol

[Invisibility]

slaxx I’m not exactly sure what you wanted me to say all about with sa

[Invisibility]

oh ok
can I vote coa now

[Slaxx]

Assuming that nobody counterclaims:

Taking every townread I had previously, that leaves me with SA/rooroo left. To make a bit of an ironic move, however, I don't really feel comfortable with that.

I think my Eragon townread is worth relooking at.

This is the second time CoA kept the vote off SA while previously scumreading

Yeah okay

I’m being paranoid maybe

[kitcat]

skimming vizzy's iso again:

-> early game (wiht the spamming and meming) he's still really townie for him
(also note that i townread vizzy for this, and gave the explanation that scum don't usually try to call attention to themselves that way in early game - and SA basically shaded that read by saying somethigng along the lines of 'lol @kitkat for thinking scum don't try to call attention to themselves - not sure he says that when i'm using it to townread his partner)

-> 345 also feels super townie and in like a *reaction-in-the-moment* sort of way

-> i don't think he starts day2 bussing SA as a partner. i think he just keeps him ~null; i don't think he initates a push like that (iirc he was one of the first people who voted there that day) or voteparks for the entire day really

[Slaxx]

Alright....Cult->Eragon?