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[Slaxx]

So am I deciding to compromise between Slaxx and Stanley?

Stanley is the LAL lynch that clears up or and joges votes for tomorrow
Slaxx sorts RR v. Slaxx and deals with the person who self-voted with 7 hours on clock

I will compromise on either of those over a NL but I'm not sure which is better/less worse at a glance

How does my flip sort RR?

[sheepsaysmeep]

Day 1 Votecount 6

stan1ey (4):

or, joges, Flavor Leaf, Jibril

Slaxx (3):

Ruby Red, TTTT, Slaxx

Flavor Leaf (1):

Creature

or (1):

stan1ey

Alonzo (1):

Weiss Schnee

Not Voting (3):

Alonzo, Mumble, Emperor flippyNips

There are (expired on 2019-01-19 20:00:00) remaining.

[Weiss Schnee]

Like, I could understand a self-vote if you were the leading wagon and there was a real risk of no lynch

but I really don't get why you would self vote yourself to L-3 when there's a wagon on an unknown alignment at L-2

that's just weird

[Weiss Schnee]

How does my flip sort RR?

sorry, phrasing was wrong. it {resolves} your 1v1, in the sense that RR will have to focus on someone else tomorrow. Sometimes it can be bad to let 1v1s fester since they bog down the thread and create the risk of scum theater or town tunneling. You flipping green does not confred RR and that was not my intended implication, although I do think you flipping red would make RR a likely green

[Slaxx]

How does my flip sort RR?

sorry, phrasing was wrong. it {resolves} your 1v1, in the sense that RR will have to focus on someone else tomorrow. Sometimes it can be bad to let 1v1s fester since they bog down the thread and create the risk of scum theater or town tunneling. You flipping green does not confred RR and that was not my intended implication, although I do think you flipping red would make RR a likely green

Got ya

Well you just answered your question in the post to me before this with this

I don't think Stanley is scum anymore because there were three really bad votes on his wagon. Even though his profile is scummy, it was a red flag. I think the plan is to lynch him today, and then let ruby tunnel me tomorrow, then lynch ruby the following day. That's what I would do as scum here.

So if we lynch me here and I stress that Ruby is town, maybe we can avoid two of those MLs.

[Weiss Schnee]

I think we don't have the votes for a cfd but I agree that I'm not really optimistic that either of these flips red, and I also don't want us to no lynch so, kinda not sure what to do here.

What do you think of Flavor Leaf right now Slaxx?

[Slaxx]

His last 20 posts or so are active lurking and his vote on stan and weird reasons for town-reading me and then null reading me fit into that narrative of what I think is going on, so I think he could be scum.

[Weiss Schnee]

Part of me doesn't even want to move off Alonzo since he was doing that catchup and then... he just stopped and nothing came of it

like he wanted some towncred and then realized he was doing work and wasn't getting a LOT of towncred so he just gave up instead of continuing to try to solve

but I feel like I'm just not getting alonzo today given how many people have just stopped paying attention so

hmm

[Creature]

Is there any rule against self-voting sitewide?

I can't find one in Sheep's rules.

No, there's no rule against self-voting and hopefully there never will.

[Creature]

Sorry if anyone thinks its a bad play but I think its the right one.

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[Weiss Schnee]

Creature you're currently on Flavor Leaf, but that was where your predecessor left your vote... are you too indifferent about it to unvote or are you ok with your vote there?

[Creature]

If it's just to sort a tunnel then it's pointless, tunnelers will just change their target.

[Creature]

Creature you're currently on Flavor Leaf, but that was where your predecessor left your vote... are you too indifferent about it to unvote or are you ok with your vote there?

I'm actually okay with my vote there, I could also do RR.

[Slaxx]

Sorry if anyone thinks its a bad play but I think its the right one.

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Literally explained it in #754

[Weiss Schnee]

I'm actually okay with my vote there, I could also do RR.

you think alonzo's town?

[Slaxx]

I would unvote myself to vote FL but I'm not lynching Stanley because it really feels like the trajectory i mentioned above was where we were headed.

[Weiss Schnee]

Spoiler: or on stan

Anyways VOTE: stanley

stan1ey - lean scum

I'm happy staying on stanley and i think he's still one of the potential lynches for today.

Spoiler: joges on stan

VOTE: stan

That's the first time Flavor has unvoted since their unvote of an RVS vote. I don't like the picture you wanted to paint here based on one instance. You didn't word it "It was really easy for you to unvote right now." You said:

Its very easy to persuade you to unvote

Which makes it sound like a thing that has been happening all game.

I'm still fine with my Stan vote, and would settle for Flavor.

[Ruby Red]

I don't think Stanley is scum anymore because there were three really bad votes on his wagon. Even though his profile is scummy, it was a red flag. I think the plan is to lynch him today, and then let ruby tunnel me tomorrow, then lynch ruby the following day. That's what I would do as scum here.

nobody has ever mislynched me for pushing a town wagon and nobody ever will

[Slaxx]

I don't think Stanley is scum anymore because there were three really bad votes on his wagon. Even though his profile is scummy, it was a red flag. I think the plan is to lynch him today, and then let ruby tunnel me tomorrow, then lynch ruby the following day. That's what I would do as scum here.

nobody has ever mislynched me for pushing a town wagon and nobody ever will

Yeah good luck then.

[Ruby Red]

If it's just to sort a tunnel then it's pointless, tunnelers will just change their target.

categorically false

if slaxx is scum obviously i reconsider, nevermind that scum probably tries to take a shot at me

Creature you're currently on Flavor Leaf, but that was where your predecessor left your vote... are you too indifferent about it to unvote or are you ok with your vote there?

I'm actually okay with my vote there, I could also do RR.

wow, awesome

fucking why? because you think i'm RC or some shit?

[Ruby Red]

@mumble, hop on slaxx

[Weiss Schnee]

Spoiler: Flavor Leaf on Stan

Weird combination of passive arbiter/scavenger type staying on the edge of discussion without really taking any stances or producing original thoughts and content.

You're wrong but ill put you as town as nobody else is giving reasons for their reads

Wow, this looks like someone trying to get credit for a mislynch flipping town so hard.

VOTE: Stan1ey

Spoiler: Jibril on stan

Will you teach me how to play, Master?~

here's a start. type in

Code: Select all

[vote]stan1ey[/vote]

Thank you.

VOTE: stan1ey

Jibril terribad reads

Imanity
Ruby
Joges
Or
Slaxx
Mumble

Werebeast
Weiss (even humans aren't this slow, something is off)
Emporer
Tttt
Alonzo
Stan1ey
Creature

Kind of ordered

[Weiss Schnee]

So:
or is voting stan because {reasons}
Jibril is sheeping or.......? who has no {stated} reasons?
joges is voting stan because he didn't like stan's reaction to flavor leaf
flavor leaf is voting stan because of stan's reaction to slaxx (and also because "look at the shifts")

to be clear, none of these people have pushed stan very hard, and most of these people have barely mentioned stan before or after their vote

so, like, this is a kinda hard to compute wagon. I don't know this means stan flips green, but if he flips red I don't know how we'd sort busses from legitimate votes

I think I'd actually most like Jibril to expand on her reasons for stan out of these, although I find Flavor Leaf being kinda indifferent to the wagon he's on and more interested in waxing about RC kinda alarming, I feel like FL is not the type of player to kinda just chill on a leading wagon as town?

[Creature]

categorically false

if slaxx is scum obviously i reconsider, nevermind that scum probably tries to take a shot at me

I mean after their target flip.

[stan1ey]

To whoever asked i didn't forget - i voted or because he was trying to get people to vote me for no reason

Kinda TR Rubys hard pushing feel like that comes from town them in my experience.

I think the points he makes are bad but yes it probably comes from him being town

Still suspicious of Joges for post 178 - not sure if i mentioned that I was when he posted it. Also he is voting for me. I get it that I’m the low hanging fruit - but if you lynch me and i’m town what are you going to learn from my wagon? Nothing. Its still day 1 after all he can’t be that confident of me being scum especially all the way back in post 178 and he is still voting me right now. Also i genuinely think people that ask questions like “are you scum” or “are you town” are doing LAMIST (if im using that right). They can play it off as if its scum hunting but its not and gains nothing.

UNVOTE: joges

After 532 I read him as town

@Ruby - how confident are you?

Hello, yes I'm trying to get caught up, I'm well far behind.

I do not like posts about confidence on D1. How confident can anyone who is town be? And by asking this, you make me feel you're town reading them, so how is asking them if they're confident when they have absolutely no info to go off of at all a good thing.

Gotta say I agree here though. I think that this post from TTTT is much more scummy than what joges has done.

or town reads joges and TTTT and scum reads me. So far his ONLY scum read is me (currently at page 29)

As of page 29 I am thinking that or can be scum with either one of TTTT and joges. Not sure which. Don’t think TTTT and joges will be scum together.

OK or’s persivul/creature read is terrible.

Stanley is the LAL lynch that clears up or and joges votes for tomorrow

LAL as in lynch all liars?

Spoiler: or on stan

Anyways VOTE: stanley

stan1ey - lean scum

I'm happy staying on stanley and i think he's still one of the potential lynches for today.

Spoiler: joges on stan

VOTE: stan

That's the first time Flavor has unvoted since their unvote of an RVS vote. I don't like the picture you wanted to paint here based on one instance. You didn't word it "It was really easy for you to unvote right now." You said:

Its very easy to persuade you to unvote

Which makes it sound like a thing that has been happening all game.

I'm still fine with my Stan vote, and would settle for Flavor.

Is this someone thinking like im thinking??