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VOTE: Mohab500

No

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Calling Dunstral is scum if Yellow is scum, for future reference.

VOTE: Ironman

We have to get him before he figures it out.

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wow I guess that OMGUS isn't scummy either.

That one was.

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"let's wagon the noob player" its what you guys are typing in your Mafia Chat. Shameful guys =(

Would you like to show me where in the mafia Bible it is written that being new excluded you from being randomized with a scum role PM?

I have a hard time believing you actually believed what you said about Dunn.

Also instead of prying at motivation you’re just playing the victim, which is solidifying my read on you.

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Mohab isn’t a bad wagon either.

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3rd vote on RVS can be pro town, since it will probably generate discussion and reactions.

this is the correct analysis

Keep reading it gets worse

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"let's wagon the noob player" its what you guys are typing in your Mafia Chat. Shameful guys =(

Would you like to show me where in the mafia Bible it is written that being new excluded you from being randomized with a scum role PM?

I have a hard time believing you actually believed what you said about Dunn.

Also instead of prying at motivation you’re just playing the victim, which is solidifying my read on you.

Ironman you’re not even trying to discern the alignment of people on your wagon. You’re either calling them scum or asking loaded questions you already have the answer to.

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If i cared how i was perceived, i wouldnt be posting so much on my first game.

But since you never played with me thats not a valid point i guess.

Because apparently anyone that thinks Iron is scum is scum themselves.

Thats not true. I voted you before you voiced anything about finding me scummy. The only person voting on me that i acused of being possible scum was Dunstral.

That is... not even remotely an honest representation of what is going down here.

You are posting, primarily to posture yourself as town, or at the very least the victim. You are posting to alter perceptions with minimal effort in sorting. The bolder makes zero sense.

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Mohab isn’t a bad wagon either.

Just what the fuck is this?

That’s me saying you’re not a bad wagon because you’ve been busy doing some sort of self-righteous pontificating about your play without doing a single thing of use.

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I’ll bite.

How are you townreading Mohabs long winded post?

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Also really don’t like the “lol there’s nothing here I can use for reads” stuff

Feel like Mohab has been in enough games to, if not develop some early reads and converse smoothly in early game herself, at least know this transition from RVS to the real meat of the game is usually done fairly early. The confusion seems feigned.

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I’ll bite.

How are you townreading Mohabs long winded post?

He's obviously joking – even I can pick up on that. I think the fact that he feels comfortable enough to do... all of that... is town-indicative.

I was just wanting to talk to you, too – I feel like you've made two pretty bad votes so far. Not sure how you're seeing Ironman scum. Pushing him for the "Dunn scum if YS scum" comment I just can't understand. Feels more like you're just pushing a newbie rather than pushing something actually scummy.

Yeah no. It looks more like tryharding.

Also, I literally made the distinction of the difference between pushing him as a noob and pushing him as scummy. I think you need to reread and address my points individually instead of parroting his narrative.

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I’m going by the “goon” title and the fact I flipped through games to see if they had been in at least a couple. I don’t rely much on meta, but the piece here it was valid to differentiate between ignorance of site culture and feigned ignorance to avoid giving reads.

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... you don’t think someone playing the victim, throwing shade at their wagoners, and asking charges questions is a good vote for page 4?

You’re fucking kidding me right?

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I think the “scumslip” isn’t really a slip, given that he has experience in the past on this site with daytalk.

But that not being a slip in no way invalidates the rest of what I just covered.

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I’m going by the “goon” title and the fact I flipped through games to see if they had been in at least a couple. I don’t rely much on meta, but the piece here it was valid to differentiate between ignorance of site culture and feigned ignorance to avoid giving reads.

Right...

Well, let's do a bit more meta than looking at Mohab's title, why don't we?

Spoiler:

Subject: Mini Normal 1999: BooneyToonz VII - Join the Boonguard!

I've discord my intellectual capacity's immense near-limitless powers, and I've succesfully identified, with a 100% success rate, the members of the mafia group. However, I refuse to say the answers out loud, and I'll play along with your feeble minds in this game, so some of you humans can have fun. Do not expect though, that I'll not try to win; I'll surely try to win, but only use 1% of my intellectual powers, as to make this a fair game.

VOTE screenplay

Welcome,

Mohab500

, you are a

Vanilla Townie

.

Abilities:

• During the day, you can vote and talk
• You do nothing special.

Win condition:

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here.. Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

Also, this really bothers me because my point about other games was in regards specifically to the "lolnoreads" piece of my point, not to the try-hardy piece. I'm fine with taking the weird opening and "loligotskillz" as NAI, but that doesn't really impact the other piece.

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Also, this really bothers me because my point about other games was in regards specifically to the "lolnoreads" piece of my point, not to the try-hardy piece. I'm fine with taking the weird opening and "loligotskillz" as NAI, but that doesn't really impact the other piece.

It can bother you all you want, but CoA is town here.

ok bud

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Don't call me "bud." I would appreciate that.

sure

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Don't call me "bud." I would appreciate that.

sure

That was fun...why are you shading multiple people but voting the newb?

I'm not.

I've laid out why I thought he was scum. If someone would like talk about why he is town, we can discuss that, but it can't involve his join date because

a lack of experience does not preclude you from getting a damn scum Role PM

. So far we have you ACTUALLY throwing shade at me for voting him, and CoA saying "she's made herself clear" on why I'm wrong by using the bulletproof argument "I don't believe your reasons for the scumread are reliable":

I've made my thoughts clear. Sure, I guess I could see it as a "good vote" just to get things moving.

Again – my doing all of this defense is probably making it look like I have more of at townread on Ironman than I actually do. I don't want that being overstated or overestimated.

If you are townreading him, engage with me and tell me why. If you are null or scum reading him, let me pressure him and stay the hell out of my way.

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Sorry.

But I'm over here actually be transparent with my reads and trying to game solve and I've got CoA telling me I've had two bad votes and then you calling two people town with no followup. Its ignorant.

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Bothers might have been unintentionally loaded language, it bothered me way more because I felt like I had something going on Iron and I feel like my points are being dismissed. I'm not for sure if it really "bothered" me in any significant AI way. But that's a fair interpretation. Why do you think CoA is town? I'm not strong one way or another.

Mohab can definitely be scum, and I don't see anything particularly anti-partnery about either slot towards each other. In fact the flustered attitude and the "I'll give a read later" seemed kinda like wanting to avoid talking about Iron's wagon, which could be significant.

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I can probably pull two or maybe three games where I go on this same damn tirade about how lynchbait/newbies/any other "vulnerable target" isn't immune from being mafia. I know my first game back on the site I had to do it and wound up lynching scum. I can't remember the other one(s) result but I'll assume they flipped town because we forget what we don't want to remember.

Regardless it is a very valid point and until someone can lay out why he is town "he's new" is not a good defense of him. And I really don't like how he was the one to bring that up, by the way.

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Why do you think CoA is town? I'm not strong one way or another.

This is something that I can't really explain in a good way, but know. It could also change later, but it's where I'm at now, and don't expect to atm.

Mohab can definitely be scum, and I don't see anything particularly anti-partnery about either slot towards each other. In fact the flustered attitude and the "I'll give a read later" seemed kinda like wanting to avoid talking about Iron's wagon, which could be significant.

I don't really have a good read on Mohab atm, so I'm not opposed to a scum lean/read.

I do like that we have two wagons going on right now, so why aren't we talking about them?

First: I'm the same way with Egix, so I get it.

Second: What do you want to talk about on the YS wagon?

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Second: What do you want to talk about on the YS wagon?

Nothing atm. I think we can discuss soon though.

oh

I thought we were going to jam

I've got something to say on YS but I'll hold off then, which might be better.

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VOTE: Vote mohab

lol

i mean

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T stands for town today

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206 is gross

y

Fencesitting on the two biggest wagons and leaving both of them open for a hop off or a vote

No commentary on anything else

Also the whole ISO is bad, really

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hey pp lets vote mohab

We are, your turn

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i must stick to my word as pp's second vote

but being part of the Penguin Power political party (PPPP) I can still talk and things

I'm part of the LSD-PP

(Lynch Scum Democratic-People's Party)

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Sounds reasonable.

VOTE: mohab

^TTTT

Was this common in the newbie offhand

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u need organized leaders to rally behind otherwise ur party will crumble

and u cant self nom to form a political party, u submit yourself to someone else, otherwise its lame and ur just being a cocky player

If you haven't noticed, I kinda am.

Alright, I'll keep the military base open in the PPPP district but in turn I want your vote on Prop-MobahLynch

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i must keep the integrity of the PPPP intact otherwise there is no point

anyways someone with more time and effort than me should meta mohab and see if he is usually whiny because thats what stood out to me

I don't think there's enough games there to do much with. I did a quick flip through and found one scum game, but by quick I mean like, however long ago your request was, so.

The play was different there, so if someone wants to dig deeper they can. I don't really do much meta. It rarely pays off for me unless there are stark differences between play I'd probably detect regardless of whether I peeked.

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I really don't think cursing is a tell but if someone wants to make that case they can go for it. My cursing depends on the day I had at work...so, sorry if I take my problems out on y'all.

#102 feels especially bad, very conscious of the way they should be playing vs everyone else. Have a really hard time wrapping my head around the fact that someone who has played several games on here wouldn't be privy to the fact reads can take form in a few pages. I'm repeating myself I guess.

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mohab, how has your philosophy of playing as scum changed (if it has) since you played in Newbie 1850?
specifically what do you think of your advice in this post from your scumchat in that game?

damn son u just went in

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Mohab

Any other reads?

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things I learned from searching moab's posts for "fuck"
1. he likes that word
2. he's 14
3. life wasn't worth living before Hentai

Perfect, I'll throw that on the pile of shit I shouldn't know

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yeah dunn i want to lock u in town and maybe try to get you and pp to announce a co unity platform but i dont know your scum range

PP is town because __________

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Because he does absolutely nothing as scum

... That’s not true

He had me townreading him as scum in the first game I played since I was back. I guess I can go check but I’m pretty sure he did stuff there.

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Yeah it was Boba Tea Mafia.

He did stuff there, although was more noncommittal with his interactions as scum than here. Don’t think he’s in townread territory for me. Also, he was a really apathetic innocent child in C9++ or whatever so idk how AI that is for him.

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I think there is a distinction, granted we haven't seen enough from anyone but whatever. I'm sheeping this

I don’t think it’s the best call but it’s your body.

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Slaxx why r u trying to make me paranoid

I’m telling you your meta on PP isn’t that great and I’m still a little skeptical of him because of the way he went about approaching my vote on iron. When asked about it he said he didn’t care that much, which is odd because he cared when he said I was voting the noob.

It’s not like... definitive, by any means, but it rubbed me the wrong way. I’m actually having a bit of trouble picking up townreads which is odd because of the pace. I’d say I have three?

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Meh probably only two I’d bet anything on.

The one thing I liked was how hard he defended COA town when we were tiffing, even though I wish he could have given a reason I bought his explanation as to why he didn’t. That piece felt genuine. So it’s a mixed bag.

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Would you rather have me vote independently or give pp two votes

Every time, I’d rather your own vote, because I already know I’m going to have trouble reading you and that at least gives me something more to work with.

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@Roster

Complete the following statement:

My read on Mohab is ______________

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I think almost anyone here would agree a good percentage of my posts are superior to all of your posts.

No

I don’t think they’re scum motivated but they ain’t superior.

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How can you say nothing has happened to him?? Have you read the thread?

Town, I think.

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How can you say nothing has happened to him?? Have you read the thread?

He called Ironman scummy, said something about you, got some odd votes on him, then got more for not knowing pp = penguinpower.

I fail to understand the votes on him before the pp thing.

Then why not reach out to people and inquire?

Seems more dismissive than socratic.

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206 is gross

y

Fencesitting on the two biggest wagons and leaving both of them open for a hop off or a vote

No commentary on anything else

Also the whole ISO is bad, really

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Oh wait seems I didnt read page 9 properly/at all.

Your initial interpretation of page 9 was... what?

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I got killed night 1 in two games within like twelve hours of each other

Thanks I guess

Mafia thread?

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Ah WIFOM kill

I had terrible reads thanks for offing me

Dunn, id love to play a game where we share an alignment.

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You did well YS. Kept cool under pressure.

I almost always read bluntness as town which is something I’ll have to work on.

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@echovision
dont do that again

i’ll prob do it again, i don’t like being told how to play

the absolute worst outcome is a loss, oh whale ! it’s just a forum game that i enjoy playing, i don’t keep a tally of wins or anything, i play this game for the sole purpose of entertainment and i had a lot of fun this game playing exactly how i played, therefore i’ll prob end up doing the same thing in the future

sorry that i don’t take the game as seriously as others i suppose ??

I literally stake my own perception of my intelligence on this game

How could you